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OnStar Tracks Your Car Even When You Cancel Service
9/20/11

Posted on 09/21/2011 5:40:41 AM PDT by Libloather

Link only - OnStar Tracks Your Car Even When You Cancel Service


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: car; onstar; service; tracks
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1 posted on 09/21/2011 5:40:44 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”Navigation-and-emergency-services company OnStar is notifying its six million account holders that it will keep a complete accounting of the speed and location of OnStar-equipped vehicles, even for drivers who discontinue monthly service. OnStar began e-mailing customers Monday about its update to the privacy policy, which grants OnStar the right to sell that GPS-derived data in an anonymized format. Adam Denison, a spokesman for the General Motors subsidiary, said OnStar does not currently sell customer data, but it reserves that right. He said both the new and old privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a vehicle’s every movement and its speed, though it’s not clear where that’s stated in the old policy. “What’s changed [is that if] you want to cancel your OnStar service, we are going to maintain a two-way connection to your vehicle unless the customer says otherwise,” Denison said in a telephone interview.

While they claim you can request that they don't monitor YOUR car's movements there should be a clear method of disabling the device in the car (by pulling a power connection plug) by customers when they no longer want the service.

2 posted on 09/21/2011 5:47:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: Libloather

Bad.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 5:49:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Today, I will only post in one word answers.)
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To: Libloather

So, how would one disable it?


4 posted on 09/21/2011 5:51:15 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Libloather
The first thing I did when I got an a car with on-star was unplug the on-star box in the trunk. Problem solved.
5 posted on 09/21/2011 5:53:27 AM PDT by apillar
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6 posted on 09/21/2011 5:55:01 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: sickoflibs
While they claim you can request that they don't monitor YOUR car's movements there should be a clear method of disabling the device in the car (by pulling a power connection plug) by customers when they no longer want the service.

I don't know if it's the same with all vehicals, but when I bought a 2005 Monte Carlo that came with On-Star installed. There was a box labeled "On-Star" in the corner of the trunk, with two plugs going into in. One I assume was power/data and the other was the antenna. I unplugged both.

7 posted on 09/21/2011 5:57:24 AM PDT by apillar
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To: sickoflibs; Libloather; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3

” While they claim you can request that they don’t monitor YOUR car’s movements there should be a clear method of disabling the device in the car (by pulling a power connection plug) by customers when they no longer want the service. “

There is......in the trunk.

Take THAT,SOL !

LOL!!


8 posted on 09/21/2011 5:58:16 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

Yet another reason (like I needed another one) why I will never, NEVER buy a Gov’t Motors car. Shame too, I like some of the stuff they’re producing now despite the suspect quality.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 6:01:09 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Drill Gaia like a 3 am prom date)
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To: Libloather

As I understand, On-Star is just a license for the user interface. I didn’t know you could simply unplug it.

Just wait until they make camera’s mandatory, I’m sure there will be a way for big brother to control them too.

I guess a little bubble gum over the lens should do.


10 posted on 09/21/2011 6:17:05 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: liberty_lvr

I like the new Camaro but dropped any idea of buying one when I found out you cannot even special order one without On-Star.


11 posted on 09/21/2011 6:30:15 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: apillar; stephenjohnbanker; Libloather; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :"While they claim you can request that they don't monitor YOUR car's movements there should be a clear method of disabling the device in the car (by pulling a power connection plug) by customers when they no longer want the service........ I don't know if it's the same with all vehicals, but when I bought a 2005 Monte Carlo that came with On-Star installed. There was a box labeled "On-Star" in the corner of the trunk, with two plugs going into in. One I assume was power/data and the other was the antenna. I unplugged both."

Thanks for the valuable info, then the above thread/article is about nothing.

12 posted on 09/21/2011 6:36:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: green iguana

In the oilfield a hammer will solve about 905 of the problems.

If one hammer doesn’t work, just get a bigger hammer.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 6:45:19 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Libloather

Duh. This tech has long been big brother’s wet dream


14 posted on 09/21/2011 6:47:26 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Libloather

15 posted on 09/21/2011 6:50:37 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: apillar
The first thing I did when I got an a car with on-star was unplug the on-star box in the trunk. Problem solved.

I don't know if that works. According to OnStar spokesman Harcourt Mudd, they're equipped with lithium crystal batteries which last almost two years.
16 posted on 09/21/2011 6:52:11 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: Libloather

It’s cool. It turns out that LightSquared disables GPS applications like On-Star anyway.


17 posted on 09/21/2011 6:52:51 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: Krankor

If one of the two unplugged lines is an antenna, and the other is the power - if the on-star box is metal, it’s no longer reading location data, because it’s more or less left powered on those lithium batteries inside a faraday cage.


18 posted on 09/21/2011 6:57:48 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: sickoflibs

“if] you want to cancel your OnStar service, we are going to maintain a two-way connection to your vehicle unless the customer says otherwise”

I thought cancelling service *was* the customer saying otherwise.


19 posted on 09/21/2011 7:03:21 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Libloather

You might be able to defeat the Big Brother box now, but once they become mandatory in all cars (in the name of safety, of course), it will be illegal to disconnect them, and they will probably rig them so that the car won’t run without the box in place.


20 posted on 09/21/2011 7:09:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Libloather

I have a feeling I’ll be seeing an awful lot of tinfoil roofs on the drive home tonight


21 posted on 09/21/2011 7:16:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

OnStar has detractors. I am not one of them. I travel the roads and my cell coverage is sometimes not relaible . The OnStar coverage for my vehicle gives me some peace of mind traveling alone. I am not paranoid. I just like the protection. I also like the reminders to my email on where my vehicle maintenence issues atand. Tire pressure to oil life comes through regularly. I appreciate it. I do not care if anyone knows where my GM vehicle is at any given time. When and if that time arrives, I will disconnect it.


22 posted on 09/21/2011 7:34:00 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: green iguana
So, how would one disable it?

I have a 2002 JEMMY, I simply disconnected the power.

23 posted on 09/21/2011 9:15:32 AM PDT by dearolddad
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24 posted on 09/21/2011 11:05:10 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

Wait till Obama-care puts a microchip in our heads with our medical records, and a GPS and transmitter LOL


25 posted on 09/21/2011 11:07:40 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: Krankor

I would think the Li batteries maintain memory — they don’t power transmit or receive.


26 posted on 09/21/2011 11:09:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: sickoflibs
I have a selection of "implants" for anyone who tries that:


27 posted on 09/21/2011 11:11:37 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Fresh Wind
"You might be able to defeat the Big Brother box now, but once they become mandatory in all cars (in the name of safety, of course), it will be illegal to disconnect them, and they will probably rig them so that the car won’t run without the box in place."

In all recent US Cars, there is a computer that controls the airbag system, and it keeps a record of your speed. I don't know how far back that record goes. I don't think the vehicle will operate without that computer. The "black box" has been used in court proceedings to establish the speed the car(s) were moving in accidents.

28 posted on 09/21/2011 11:13:56 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: green iguana

“Whatever you do, do not cut the BLUE wire!!!”


29 posted on 09/21/2011 1:11:59 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: sickoflibs
"While they claim you can request that they don't monitor YOUR car's movements there should be a clear method of disabling the device in the car (by pulling a power connection plug) by customers when they no longer want the service."
That would make things to common sense. Mustn't go down that route.
30 posted on 09/21/2011 1:16:25 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: oldironsides
OnStar has detractors. I am not one of them. ... I do not care if anyone knows where my GM vehicle is at any given time. When and if that time arrives, I will disconnect it.

By the time you get to that realisation, you will no longer have the option to withdraw. Google "Tony Martin" among others in the UK where protecting your home or family is a criminal act. And recall - the process IS the punishment even if you're found not guilty.

Screw GM and OnStar - I will never have either.

31 posted on 09/21/2011 4:08:59 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: green iguana

Nuke it from space. It’s the only way to be sure.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 4:11:29 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Libloather

Government Motors changing their tune:
http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2011/Sep/0927_onstar


33 posted on 09/27/2011 10:33:26 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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