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Poll: Majority of Americans like the idea of taxing the rich more (Class Warfare working?)
Hotair ^ | 09/20/2011 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 09/21/2011 9:24:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Pundits dismissed the president’s jobs and deficit reduction proposals as political grandstanding, but the American people appear to approve of many of the president’s ideas, according to a Gallup poll released today.

The survey of 1,004 adults — only about 44 percent of whom were Republicans or Republican-leaning independents — showed significant majorities support a majority of the individual components of the president’s plan.

For example, 70 percent favor increasing taxes on some corporations by eliminating certain tax deductions and 66 percent favor increasing income taxes on individuals earning at least $200,000 and families earning at least $250,000.

The first part of that is fine. I’m all for true tax reform. I like the idea of closing loopholes to ultimately lower taxes on corporations to increase their global competitiveness, as Paul Ryan says. But the second part is troubling. Gallup didn’t ask questions to determine the respondents’ general knowledge of the tax code, though, so it’s impossible to know whether those polled would still approve of increasing taxes on the rich if they knew the top 10 percent of earners pays 70 percent of federal income taxes or that the top 1 percent pays 38 percent while nearly half of U.S. households pay no taxes at all.

Majority support for other of the president’s nonsensical proposals are even more disheartening. Take this one: 73 percent support giving tax breaks to companies hiring people who have been unemployed for more than six months. Sounds good on its face, but, as Ed has said on his show, it’s a simple question of incentives: A tax break of a couple of thousand dollars will not motivate companies to hire workers at a salary of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. The tax break will go only to those who would have hired new workers in the first place. That means more federal government spending, but not necessarily more jobs.

Large majorities also support providing more funds to hire teachers, police officers and firefighters (75 percent) and providing more funds for public works projects, including making repairs to more than 30,000 schools (72 percent). The wording of the questions might have something to do with those results — far harder to oppose hiring more “teachers, police officers and firefighters” than “state employees” and to oppose school repairs than other types of public works spending. It also perturbs me that the question suggests the federal government can “provide” more funds, when, in fact, all it can do is redistribute funds. If it was a question of “free money” or “Obama money from his stash,” as one supporter so memorably put it long ago, then, sure, I’d be a fan of hiring more teachers and making school repairs, too. But if it’s a question of adding to the debt that’s dragging down our economy in the first place and of penalizing the very people best positioned to create jobs and grow the economy, then I’d rather we not spend more money we don’t have, thank you very much.

The only proposal a majority of respondents did not support was the extension of the payroll tax cut — probably because Gallup called that what it actually is, “reducing Social Security taxes for workers and employers.” Forty-seven percent approved of that idea, while 49 percent disapproved. Does that mean the American people are aware SS is bound to go belly up eventually and don’t want to hearken the day? Or do they just see “Social Security” in a question and resist any kind of change to the program? I’d like to at least take that as a hopeful sign that the electorate is beginning to understand the precarious position of our entitlement programs. The results of the rest of the poll were depressing enough.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2011polls; classwarfare; fail; poll; sharedsacrifice; taxes; taxtherich

1 posted on 09/21/2011 9:24:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

WHO does GALLUP talk to?


2 posted on 09/21/2011 9:26:19 AM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: SeekAndFind

Great, can’t wait for all these new taxes to trickle down to the middle class.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 9:28:17 AM PDT by TheVitaminPress (as goes the Second Amendment . . . so goes the Constitution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course the majority support this. How do you think we got into this mess? All too many people want to live off of other people. People support the welfare state, the “safety net” and the graduated income tax. Ugly truth.


4 posted on 09/21/2011 9:29:47 AM PDT by all the best
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To: goodnesswins

A sample of all adults in the U.S., half of whom aren’t even registered to vote and/or required to pay income tax.


5 posted on 09/21/2011 9:29:52 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why can’t we just have a flat tax and eliminate all the deductions and not tax capital gains?


6 posted on 09/21/2011 9:30:37 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

now ask the question in a poll.
Would you prefer your rich boss to be taxed more knowing he might lay off a couple of workers.

As for the rich who say they should pay more

THEN FRIGGING DO SO WHO IS STOPPING YOU.

Springer on fox this morning saying the rich should [pay more and not one person said why doesn’t he, why not give a check to Govt then and give up your tax rebate.


7 posted on 09/21/2011 9:31:08 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do it up then, dummies.


8 posted on 09/21/2011 9:32:33 AM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: all the best

Yup...


9 posted on 09/21/2011 9:33:32 AM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Public schools and crony capitalism.

Keep 'em stupid, indoctrinated, and have ringers to play the bad guy, while fine print tax law subsidizes those same ringers (GE, GM, Buffett).

10 posted on 09/21/2011 9:33:32 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Results for this USA Today/Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Sept. 15-18, 2011, with a random sample of 1,004 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

Looks like Gallop worked with a sample that would give them the outcome they were looking for. +-4% is not a good poll.

11 posted on 09/21/2011 9:33:35 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS


12 posted on 09/21/2011 9:35:19 AM PDT by svcw (Do liberals get brain freeze if they eat ice cream to fast? (probably not, no brains))
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To: SeekAndFind

And that’s why Obama is using the only argument left for his presidency; he’ll get yours from your neighbor - because it works. Leaders who rely on the population’s sin nature of envy to obtain and retain power are evil.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 9:36:18 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: ilovesarah2012
“Why can’t we just have a flat tax and eliminate all the deductions and not tax capital gains?”

It's hard to see how anything else could be more equitable; it's amazing - and disheartening - why this common sense policy goes nowhere in Washington.

Do you know of anyone who would embrace such common sense conservative policies? Mmmm...let me think...

14 posted on 09/21/2011 9:37:58 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: SeekAndFind

Americans also favor a repeal of obummercare- but the idiot Republicans are not beating that drum as they should...


15 posted on 09/21/2011 9:38:50 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s the deal: It is simple to demand that rich people should pay more in federal taxes. To oppose that proposal is much more difficult.

Easy to say, but tough to fight it. It’s like using a bumper sticker to advance a proposal, and deriding the bumper sticker with a short essay.

Try telling people that the top 10% of income earners pay 60% of the tax, and that the bottom 50% pay only 3%.

A lot of people in America don’t want to hear the latter part of the argument. That, a testament to our welfare state. Ugh.


16 posted on 09/21/2011 9:39:22 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: SeekAndFind

Well golly gee, then let’s look at the REAL polls: election results....

Have the “tax the rich bastards” candidates WON? Nope.

So Hussein and his crowd can cram it hard and deep.


17 posted on 09/21/2011 9:41:18 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: throwback

A National Socialist picking a scapegoat.Now,where have I seen this movie before?


18 posted on 09/21/2011 9:44:50 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: SeekAndFind

This poll is equivalent to the Ministry of Propaganda and Enlightenment telling Nazi Party members that everything is going well in Stalingrad.


19 posted on 09/21/2011 9:51:56 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: SeekAndFind

Rule of Disinformation No. 22: Manufacture a new truth.
“22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.”

Gallop: http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2010/07/21/gallup-caught-lying-about-the-generic-ballot-trend/

AP: http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/11/and-the-award-for-the-most-ridiculous-poll-sampling-goes-to/

etc. etc. etc.


20 posted on 09/21/2011 9:56:58 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Of course americans want the rich taxed more. Our citizens have been told lie after lie that the rich don’t pay ‘their fair share” in taxes. After hearing this lie repeated so often it’s become their reality. If the rich really paid less than the middle class I’d want their taxes raised as well. But the truth is the rich pay WAY more than their fair share.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 9:56:58 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (If you like the employees at the DMV, post office, SS office... you'll love government health care)
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To: goodnesswins

This isn’t a sampling question or bad poll. Unfortunately, way too many Americans are all for taxing “the rich” to protect their middle class entitlements. It results from the erosion of our national character. We’ve gone from rugged individuals to adult babies who sit on our asses with our hands out looking for someone to feed us and take care of us and give us toys to play with. Not everyone in America is this way but a lot of people are. Its disgusting. And its reflected in this poll. Have the “rich” pay for my kids college, or subsidize my mortgage, or pay for my retirement, or the roads I drive on. Its what we are up against as conservatives.


22 posted on 09/21/2011 9:57:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

This is primarily because they don’t know the specifics. They think that the wealthy are paying 10-20% of their income in taxes. Asking the question without providing that information is not really telling us much.

Get to specifics; inform people that many of the wealthy pay more than half their income in combined federal, state and local taxes, and you’ll see a very different reaction.

Almost no one thinks that someone should pay more than half his income to government.


23 posted on 09/21/2011 10:03:48 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“Well golly gee, then let’s look at the REAL polls: election results....”

We won because Americans don’t trust the Democrats to raise taxes ONLY on the rich. But Americans have no problem raising taxes on the rich as long as it doesn’t affect their tax bracket.


24 posted on 09/21/2011 10:04:49 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: RexBeach

An interesting poll question would be: How much is a fair share?

I suspect the answer would be far less than the wealthy are currently paying.

That’s why the question is never asked. Except by Stuart Varney, who is asking just that question of Democrats, and, unsurprisingly, not getting an answer.


25 posted on 09/21/2011 10:07:32 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: goodnesswins
"WHO does GALLUP talk to?".....
26 posted on 09/21/2011 10:24:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

Nearly 50% of American’s are already living off “other people’s money,” by not paying income taxes!

So, Gallop had a 50/50 chance of getting the results they were seeking - right off the top! Look, if they only called the local section 8 list or the projects, then their numbers would have been closer to 100%!!!

I mean, DUH! Socialism/Communism always works in the beginning due to the fact that the LEADERS all blame “other people!” When the first group of “other people” are broke or dead, the next group with the wares become the “other people!” By the time the bourgeois figures all of this out, it is usually too late and many millions will have been exterminated! See Russia, China, Cambodia, etc...


27 posted on 09/21/2011 10:34:33 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This must have been the poll question:

Don’t you think we oughta tax filthy rich bastards more since they don’t really deserve to have all that money anyway and we need it to fund your free government cheese?


28 posted on 09/21/2011 10:40:54 AM PDT by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The poll should have also asked the respondents if they would like to be given 10 million dollars tax free. Just to see how many of them would like to be rich.
29 posted on 09/21/2011 10:42:26 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: goodnesswins

The American People are ignorant and smug. Demagoguery works because people are lazy and jealous.


30 posted on 09/21/2011 10:50:48 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: JewishRighter
This must have been the poll question: . . . .

My bet is that the question was: "Hey, you know that rich bastard Buffett and his billionaire cronies admitted that they pay less taxes than a secretary. You also know they get government bailout money. So do you think they should pay their fair share?"

31 posted on 09/21/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

This is no surprise. Everyone wants someone else to be taxed.

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the State. They forget that the State exists at the expense of everyone.”

-Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)

What’s bad is that people think these tax increases are going to make everything OK. The increases won’t cover 5% of the problem.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 11:34:00 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.....The days are long but the years are short.....)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

BEST answer....LOL


33 posted on 09/21/2011 11:40:39 AM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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