Skip to comments.APNewsBreak: CA Police Officer Charged With Murder (Kelly Thomas beating)
Posted on 09/21/2011 11:02:35 AM PDT by Smogger
A defense lawyer says a police officer has been charged with murder in the death of a mentally ill homeless man in Southern California.
Attorney John Barnett says his client, Fullerton police Officer Manuel Ramos, surrendered to authorities Wednesday and was being charged with second-degree murder.
The Orange County district attorney's office was set to announce the charge in the death of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas after a violent confrontation on July 5 with Fullerton officers.
Six officers were placed on paid administrative leave after the incident that occurred while police were investigating reported vehicle break-ins at a transit hub.
Thomas suffered severe head and neck injuries and was taken off life support five days later.
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The murder charge is appropriate. The man was murdered.
SO ugly and senseless
It will be interesting to see what comes out of discovery on this. The tasers used produce data on the number and duration of discharges delivered so at least that evidence will be factual.
Presser is on now.
Yes. The DA just said the examined the tasers.
They were just following normal policies and procedures of the police department. Case dismissed. Nothing to see here citizen.
Officer Manuel Ramos - Second degree murder, Involuntary Manslaughter.
Cpl. Jay Cincelini - Involuntary manslaughter, Excessive use of force.
Officer Manuel Ramos orders Kelly Thomas “Put your hands on your f’ing knees” He then made two fists and put them front of Kelly Thomas face, and told Kelly Thomas “See these two fists? They are getting ready to f you up!”
More to go.
The announcement is likely propaganda to confuse everyone and shut the media up. The judicial mob is probably already wiggling out of any murder prosecutions.
Police Beating of Kelly Thomas in Fullerton, CA
Fullerton California Police Beat Mentally Ill Man Kelly Thomas To Death
There were actually some right here, supporting those who served up this brutal murderous beating.
He’ll probably eat his gun. The dept. will rule it an “accident” so the fam will get pension $ .
Start watching at 3:40
Why did they beat this unarmed white guy so brutally?
What was the real motive?
Glad to see something happening in this case. Its hard to see any valid reason for their actions and the devastation that inflicted on his head and body.
The only reason something is happening, is due to video and lots of witnesses.
Otherwise, no one would have ever heard a word about his.
Bet the rent.
Police Cpl. Jay Cicinelli was charged with one count each of involuntary manslaughter and excessive force.
Is M2 the Santa Ana police department's farm league now?
Another essential component is publicity, "daylight."
One of these officers, calmly put on a pair of gloves, then proceeded to help beat this unarmed guy to death..
How I wish I was on that jury. It’s about time these murderers behind a badge get prosecuted and convicted.
Like KFI Los Angeles, John and Ken program...They were actually threatened by the “Regardless of circumstances, cops do no wrong” crowd.
I totally agree. I’m so disgusted by cops around the country that are arresting or suing over video taping by citizens. In my opinion we have every right to record our interaction with LEOs.
Dear me... I had to really look to see if the picture was human. Prayers for the family of this man. Hopefully, they can use THIS PHOTO in court to show the depravity.
Considering the level of brutality, Officer Manuel Ramos is likely a violent mental case, or simply a white hating racist.
This guy was simply gang beat...to death.
shhhhh....reality and facts are being banned in ObamaLand.
Bastards like this are worse than common cirminals who do the same thing.
Common criminals do their damage outside the law. These bastards have the full force and authority of the state behind them with their actions.
The bastards should be hung by the neck until dead - all of them.
Once again we witness the REAL danger of living in a quasi-police state.
The Founders of this Republic put their trust in citizen militias, sheriff’s and deputies for a very bvery good reason. They had personal experience of what an unrestrained constabulary was capable of.
We need civilian police review boards to police the actions of the police, with the full authority to call for indictments against scum like this.
How despicable of these goons in blue.
Where are the usual cop syncophants who said there must be more to this story?
The other cop indicted is white, so the race card doesn't hold up. The scuttlebutt is that the local bar and restaurant owners didn't like the homeless hanging around the downtown area and the cops were directed to roust them out of there.
What's telling is that the police have so far refused to release the 911 call about the alleged break-ins at the parking lot--break-ins, by the way, that don't show up in the police crime logs for that day. There's a good chance that there was never any such call.
If he does that, there will be no conviction. Not sure about he pension, but the convictions of Ken Lay in the ENRON cases were vacated because he died prior the exhaustion of his appeals.
Lucky for his wife; a least financially.
I thought the 4 cops were not guilty and the verdict in the criminal trial was correct. He disagreed and said he would have "burned them all including their watch commander".
Sometimes the cops themselves are hardest on colleagues who betray their trust.
His color was irrelevant.
No human being should be treated like this.
CERTAINLY not by goons who are paid by the public, protected by the public and granted benefits by the public.
I hope all of them wind up in a prison where street justice is swiftly administered. Its better than they will get in a Court of Law.
Is either of these cops who were charged the one-eyed guy?
The 2nd cop, Cincinella(sp)lost an eye while a probation officer and, according to the story, got shot three weeks after graduating from the academy. I wonder if those incidents screwed him up, and made him unfit for police work.
They are here...But will avoid this thread like the plague.
The father of this poor man has to live with the knowledge that his son was crying out for his Dad while these cops were beating him to death. The anger pushes me past words...
And just think. All of those cops were back out on the streets the next day free as birds for a month until the father made a stink with a picture so graphic that only the Telegraph UK would print it. So much for the US media.
To Protect and Serve ... yeah, right.
Not quite. It was Officer Manuel Ramos who calmly put his gloves on, then told the unarmed white guy, "See these fists, they going to beat your ass".
I would have charged the other cops that were there and did nothing to stop that brutality as accessories though. Also, if anyone falsified any reports/records or stonewalled the investigation in any way, they should be charged as accessories after the fact. IANAL though.
Fullerton would probably be burning right now if he didn’t charge at least these two.
Folks were/are righteously pi$$ed about this and the rest of the FPD (giving those not involved the benefit of the doubt) are paying the price.
Some guy living in Berlin, who posts here, kept telling me that, even with video and multiple corroborating witness statements.
Oh, no. Don’t ping him. Laz keeps ruining threads by doing that. :)
It's still early, yours is only the 14th post here, they'll show up up soon enough...........
Unless your police captain friend is testifying under oath against his colleagues who betrayed his trust, his strong words and a quarter will get you a gumball.
If more cops would step up and loudly condemn the thugs and criminals hiding in their midst, they'd have more credibility.