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Secret Fast and Furious Recordings Name Names (Holder and Burke among them)
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Posted on 09/21/2011 12:19:00 PM PDT by sunmars

CBS News recently got their hands on secret recordings of conversations about Fast and Furious that took place between an ATF agent and a gun store owner, both of whom were located in the Phoenix area (and both of whom were thoroughly acquainted with Fast and Furious).

The recordings captured agent Hope McAllister talking with Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company, at a time when Howard was noticeably worried that Fast and Furious was going to become public knowledge or be put under the microscope of a congressional investigation. Howard especially feared that Senator Charles Grassley might push for an inquiry of some kind. Thus at least four times in the recordings he can be heard mentioning Grassley, and one of those four times it’s to say someone needs to tell Grassley “to sit [his] a—down.”

What’s also interesting about the recordings is that although they were made in mid-March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder’s name comes up quite a bit. And his name doesn’t come up because they’re afraid he’s going to find out about Fast and Furious but because he was the one they were counting on to deflect attention from it.

In other words, he was well aware of the operation by mid-March 2011, and this is somewhat ironic because in answering questions from Congressman Darrell Issa on May 3 he said he only learned of Fast and Furious “over the last few weeks.” This means he led Issa to believe the earliest he knew anything about the operation was sometime in April. Yet on the recordings (from mid-March), it is clear Holder was the one Howard hoped would stop the investigative momentum by responding to a letter regarding Fast and Furious from the House Oversight Committee:

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People better start lawyering up, this is getting wild. Will start dropping people into it.
1 posted on 09/21/2011 12:19:03 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

Wow. This really IS like watergate. Only worse.


2 posted on 09/21/2011 12:21:44 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: sunmars

Andre Howard is about to receive the Linda Tripp treatment from the Hussein Heads.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 12:23:52 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: sunmars

Watergate x 1000. Time to lawyer up.


4 posted on 09/21/2011 12:24:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (WH says potus didn’t feel the earthquake. No worries. Another is scheduled for November 2012)
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To: sunmars

Deeeeeeelish!!!!! This is going to get good! *hopes*


5 posted on 09/21/2011 12:25:38 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Attaaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!!!!! XD)
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To: sunmars

Does’nt this prove that Holder deliberately lied to congress without a doubt.


6 posted on 09/21/2011 12:25:38 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

Can’t wait for the perp walks right in the middle of one of you know who’s campaign speeches. Not that they’d ever be arrested, but one can hope.


7 posted on 09/21/2011 12:25:44 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: sunmars

Holder is toast.


8 posted on 09/21/2011 12:25:59 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: sunmars

As Rev. Wright would say, they been “ridin dirty”.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 12:27:50 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: cuban leaf

Just heard on Foxnews that Fast and Furious weapons were responsible for 400 deaths in Mexico.


10 posted on 09/21/2011 12:28:01 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: sunmars

11 posted on 09/21/2011 12:28:45 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

12 posted on 09/21/2011 12:29:44 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: sunmars

“People better start lawyering up, this is getting wild”

Why is it that CBS has recordings and not Issa?
Is the next claim going to be that the people involved were not aware of being recorded and thus not admissable as evidence?

This whole matter still reeks of holder and hussein getting off scott free.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 12:30:15 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: sunmars

“Does’nt this prove that Holder deliberately lied to congress without a doubt.”

Hussein Heads will mindlessly argue, “Three weeks, or seven — what’s the diff? Holder told the truth.”


14 posted on 09/21/2011 12:31:04 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: sunmars; waterhill; ixtl

Bookmark and (((ping))) for later...


15 posted on 09/21/2011 12:31:16 PM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: sunmars

The only potential President that would go after all the corruption in the federal government is Sarah Palin. She is the only one with nothing to hide. That’s the real reason she is fear by the Democrat and GOP establishment.


16 posted on 09/21/2011 12:32:26 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: sunmars
Does’nt this prove that Holder deliberately lied to congress without a doubt.

Technically, it only proves that Howard (and possibly MacAllister) believed Holder knew. Holder could easily argue that MacAllister was just telling Howard what he wanted to hear with respect to DoJ running "interference".

17 posted on 09/21/2011 12:34:53 PM PDT by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: sunmars

She is the HOPE we have been looking for, HOPE McALLISTER!!!
Maybe HOPE will CHANGE to a witness for Congressional investigators!


18 posted on 09/21/2011 12:45:19 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: kevkrom
MacAllister will claim he was just "lying to his diary".

</ClintonWhiteHouse>

19 posted on 09/21/2011 12:57:08 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: sunmars; marktwain

Is there are sort of clearinghouse website keeping track of all the various news coming out around Operation Fast and Furious?


20 posted on 09/21/2011 12:58:05 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: cuban leaf

“Wow. This really IS like watergate. Only worse”

Right, a lot worse. Watergate was a third rate burglary with no injuries. With Fast and Furious there are many deaths associated with it.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 12:58:05 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: sunmars

22 posted on 09/21/2011 1:05:05 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: cuban leaf

“This really IS like watergate”

Watergate didn’t have a body count like this.

Good people died because of Holder’s f—k up.


23 posted on 09/21/2011 1:06:23 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: cuban leaf

Worse because no one died in Watergate.


24 posted on 09/21/2011 1:06:54 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: sunmars

Bookmark


25 posted on 09/21/2011 1:07:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: cuban leaf

200 people plus a border Agent were NOT Murdered during Waterate.

This is death penalty type crap, forget impeachment.


26 posted on 09/21/2011 1:07:38 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: sunmars
Doesn't this prove that Holder deliberately lied to congress without a doubt.

Well dang, aren't we just all picky and fussy!

It's just hard evidence, not like anybody that matters will want to know.

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27 posted on 09/21/2011 1:07:57 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: sunmars
This whole corrupt batch of socialists are going to pay - from the top down to the bottom up. Take that Van Jones.

The natives are restless. The sleeping giant is awake. The movement is here.

The Great American Renaissance has begun! Are you in? We are going to change things, and change them Big. They have no idea yet!

Keep spreading the Truth. . .

Go Sarah!

28 posted on 09/21/2011 1:08:03 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: matthew fuller

I think that number came from the AG of Mexico so it probably has some validity.

Cannot wait for everyone to jump ship, leaving Barky twisting in the wind or hoisted on his own petard.


29 posted on 09/21/2011 1:09:12 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Marty62

—This is death penalty type crap, forget impeachment.—

That’s what I meant by “only worse”. ;->


30 posted on 09/21/2011 1:20:18 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: freeangel

“This whole matter still reeks of holder and hussein getting off scott free.”

No. It reeks of some Democrats having decided Zero is toxic and giving networks the go ahead to run with this. This is actually a way out for them. The networks are still dipping their toes in the scandal. If they go to wall to wall coverage ala Iran/Contra, Abu Gharib, or Watergate, we will know they have gotten the go ahead from Soros-type levels.

It works because if the old media gets blamed by blacks for getting rid of Zero, the damage in the next election will be minimal. OTOH, if a prominent dem were to challenge and beat Zero in the primaries, black voters would stay at home.

Note this is all breaking at about the same time as Bill Clinton said he wouldn’t raise taxes like Zero has requested. So in that regard, HRC is in a good spot. Bill is her beard and she can claim she would have done whatever focus groups well when she is making the claim. And as secretary of state, she doesn’t get blamed for our economic woes, even though she would probably have beeen as bad or worse than Zero.

Her big problem right now is the UN veto that is/is not coming up on the Palestinian State issue. I wager she will work to be as far away from that as she can. There’s no good vote for a rat on that one—they alienate one of two key constituencies—Muslims or Jews.


31 posted on 09/21/2011 1:20:47 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: cuban leaf

Oh let’s watch them squirm, it’s nice to see who is getting the last laugh as these creeps have tried and tried to tear down America. I just hope some of these scumbags go to the slammer where “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” has a whole other meaning.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 1:23:59 PM PDT by Karliner ("If we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, Obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he?")
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To: sunmars

The testimony in a hearing will be worth more than a tape.

If the speaker on the tape is dead, it is of no value


33 posted on 09/21/2011 1:24:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: sunmars

The testimony in a hearing will be worth more than a tape.

If the speaker on the tape is dead, it is of no value


34 posted on 09/21/2011 1:25:03 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: sunmars

The testimony in a hearing will be worth more than a tape.

If the speaker on the tape is dead, it is of no value


35 posted on 09/21/2011 1:25:20 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: matthew fuller

Nobody died at Watergate!


36 posted on 09/21/2011 1:25:59 PM PDT by Stayfree (Find out the truth at RewardForObamasBirthCertificate.com!)
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To: freeangel

I’ve said from the gitgo that these gun dealers are in big trouble unless they have an immunity letter from Holder ( or better). So far such a letter (s) hasn’t been disclosed and this recording pretty much indicates there are no letters. You can expect these guys to do the most talking to save their own bacons especially if they thot they were just being good “secret agents”. Simple fact is they were breaking their own laws under which they’re licensed and they will take someone with them. And don’t forget the civil lawsuits that will name them! Gonna take a lot of popcorn to get thru this show.


37 posted on 09/21/2011 1:27:31 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: sunmars

Vince foster was murdered and nothing came of that. I hardly expect heads to roll here.


38 posted on 09/21/2011 1:34:23 PM PDT by UnChained (The "stimulus" CAUSED the economy to tank.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

This even beats the dickens out of the “Clinton Body Count” ~ the Hildabeast must be so proud of her husband now!


39 posted on 09/21/2011 1:34:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cuban leaf

AGREED!


40 posted on 09/21/2011 1:43:12 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: cherokee1

Hopefully, when the BATF and FBI called to set up an appointment they all bug the meeting place.

Why in the world would a gun dealer trust the BATF, knowing full well the Dumorats want them out of business.


41 posted on 09/21/2011 1:48:45 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Excellent point. Never occurred to me, but it certainly rings true.

Perhaps the media made a mistake in going after Sarah with so much vile hatred. They did their job too well for their own good. Now that everybody knows every little detail about her, she doesn’t have to worry about skeletons in her closet. (Mawgli and Chewbacca have much to worry about if the MSM decides to go after them.)


42 posted on 09/21/2011 2:01:21 PM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: sunmars

Welcome to the world of totally out of control government.


43 posted on 09/21/2011 2:24:12 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: sunmars

Listen here...

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7381619n


44 posted on 09/21/2011 2:40:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: UnChained

I won’t be satisfied until we see some orange jumpsuited perp-walks.


45 posted on 09/21/2011 2:46:02 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: cuban leaf

Make Holder and Burke cell mates!


46 posted on 09/21/2011 2:46:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: UnChained

I won’t be satisfied until we see some orange jumpsuited perp-walks.


47 posted on 09/21/2011 2:46:14 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: cuban leaf

Make Holder and Burke cell mates; then put Obama in the next cell!


48 posted on 09/21/2011 2:47:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: MestaMachine; 444Flyer; Nachum

ping


49 posted on 09/21/2011 2:47:42 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (PDS=someone that doesn’t dream dates up of a Palin announcement;nor play Palin’s campaign manager)
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To: SandRat

bump


50 posted on 09/21/2011 2:49:28 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (PDS=someone that doesn’t dream dates up of a Palin announcement;nor play as Palin’s campaign manag)
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