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Issa Confirms 200 Mexicans Killed by Fast and Furious Weapons
American Thinker ^ | September 21, 2011 | M Catharine Evans

Posted on 09/21/2011 3:41:20 PM PDT by neverdem

The cover-up of Fast and Furious is unraveling at breakneck speed. As a result of the ongoing investigation by Rep. Darrell Issa, Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, the LA Times and Townhall.com are both reporting Mexico has been kept in the dark about the deadly fallout of the botched operation.

While information about the mounting carnage trickles out, a black cloud has descended over the White House, the DOJ and American-Mexican relations.

From Townhall.com:

"I would be remiss if I didn't mention, as the Attorney General in Mexico is so concerned, she's made the point that at least 200 Mexicans have been killed with these weapons and probably countless more," Issa said. [snip]

This is not surprising, considering out of 2500 weapons the Obama Justice Department allowed to "walk," and that only 600 have been recovered, the rest are lost until they show up at violent crime scenes.

The LA Times:

Marisela Morales, Mexico's attorney general and a longtime favorite of American law enforcement agents in Mexico, told The LA Times that she first learned about Fast and Furious from news reports. And to this day, she said, U.S. officials have not briefed her on the operation gone awry, nor have they apologized...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/21/2011 3:41:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

What were they thinking??????


2 posted on 09/21/2011 3:43:02 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: neverdem

“the Attorney General in Mexico is so concerned, she’s made the point that at least 200 Mexicans have been killed with these weapons and probably countless more”

Sorry maam, nothing comes between a democrat and their attempts to disarm Americans.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 3:43:02 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

you don’t know?


4 posted on 09/21/2011 3:43:32 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: neverdem

Seems to me that Obama has caused America to fit our own definition of a terror supporting nation.


5 posted on 09/21/2011 3:46:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: neverdem

Eric Holder is in a body count competition with Cosa Nostra.


6 posted on 09/21/2011 3:46:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: The_Media_never_lie
YOU weren't supposed to find out, and they would use the violence in Mexico as an excuse for gun control in the US.

Especially with all those bitter-clinging Tea Party freaks and their obsession with the Founding Fathers...

7 posted on 09/21/2011 3:50:31 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: neverdem; ncfool; GailA; GOP_Lady; Howie66; Las Vegas Ron; Kaslin; ZULU; al baby; rodguy911; ...

FYI:

Drip drip drip

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/09/21/panic_mode_holders_name_mentioned_in_new_fast_and_furious_recordings


8 posted on 09/21/2011 3:50:41 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: skeeter

One could quibble that whoever wielded these guns in Mexico would have easily been able to get other guns from elsewhere, and the carnage would not have been different. But still it stinks that Holder made America a party to something it didn’t need to be a party to, and wouldn’t have been a party to, if it had followed its own rules.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 3:51:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

No, I don’t know. This is bizarre.

I don’t know and the majority of the American people don’t know.

I don’t watch CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC (except for business), but I presume “Fast and Furious” has no coverage there.


10 posted on 09/21/2011 3:52:17 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: DTogo

Because as we know, Tea Partiers are always taking their guns down to Mexico to trade them for some tequila!


11 posted on 09/21/2011 3:52:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: neverdem

The Republican Party in DC needs to shut down the government until a special prosecutor is named to investigate Holder. Just pack up and leave town and tell ‘em they’ll come back when Issa gets to name his choice.


12 posted on 09/21/2011 3:52:35 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Abandon the House — no quorum. Sounds like a plan. If Rats can do it in Texas and Wisconsin, why not Pubs in DC?


13 posted on 09/21/2011 3:54:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: The_Media_never_lie

>> What were they thinking??????

A grindhouse plot like that of Machete?


14 posted on 09/21/2011 3:54:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: Gene Eric

Or, something that would have been written by Edgar Allen Poe?


15 posted on 09/21/2011 3:56:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: neverdem

And Obama is headed where for vacation?


16 posted on 09/21/2011 3:58:33 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (PDS=someone that doesnt dream dates up of a Palin announcement;nor act as Palins campaign manager)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...
'Round and 'round it goes...

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17 posted on 09/21/2011 4:00:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Hey Holder and your punk boss, Obama. Resign now....maybe you can avoid prison.


18 posted on 09/21/2011 4:00:02 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Holder made America party to the carnage in the process of playing out a political attack on the Constitution.

That makes Holder guilty of 200 counts of negligent homicide, treason against the state and criminal stupidity. A trifecta.

19 posted on 09/21/2011 4:00:33 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: neverdem

I am still waiting to hear obama’s explanation of what he meant when he said he was “working on gun control under the radar”. If it means what I think it means he and the rest of his idealogical commie appointees are heading for sing sing.


20 posted on 09/21/2011 4:01:23 PM PDT by spawn44 (spawn44)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

When we say that the Obama administration is a hard-leftist organization who will stop at nothing to destroy America for the purpose of pillaging its resources, we are NOT exaggerating.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 4:01:28 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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22 posted on 09/21/2011 4:03:48 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MestaMachine
Holy carp, it just gets worse with every trickle of info that comes out.

The press would be in full battle gear if the president had an (R) behind his name............

23 posted on 09/21/2011 4:04:52 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: The_Media_never_lie

If you want to know, see the links in Post #17.


24 posted on 09/21/2011 4:05:04 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: Lakeshark

How long would they have hidden the blue dress? But even Drudge won’t touch this. Wonder if it is because Sipsey Street has been in the lead on this since it started?


25 posted on 09/21/2011 4:08:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: neverdem

HOW MANY MORE MUST DIE?


26 posted on 09/21/2011 4:09:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

27 posted on 09/21/2011 4:12:26 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

Eric “Muffin Man” Holder.
You know, this whole Fast and Furious thing was supposed to show us how bad guns are, and instead, they have shown us how bad a liberal Democrat government is.


28 posted on 09/21/2011 4:13:10 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: neverdem

29 posted on 09/21/2011 4:16:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: cripplecreek; ExTexasRedhead
Seems to me that Obama has caused America to fit our own definition of a terror supporting nation.

I'm starting to think he wants to start a war with Mexico??

30 posted on 09/21/2011 4:17:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: neverdem
Population control.
31 posted on 09/21/2011 4:17:35 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: neverdem

The dead Mexicans are not Holder’s “people.” He’s breaking some eggs on the way to a defenseless Utopia.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 4:29:09 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Bizarre? for the media?

business as usual.

We got a full blown war with daily invasions going on at the border and Obama is eating ice cream and playing golf between fundraisers, beer and cigs..

American citizens lives are cheap these days as are their future hopes if he gets re-elected.

Maybe Katie HiColonic can do a special someday about it.


33 posted on 09/21/2011 4:55:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
What were they thinking??????

What was Stalin thinking? You can't worry about irrelevant peasant lives when greater global socialist goals are at stake.

34 posted on 09/21/2011 4:55:53 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: NormsRevenge

She already did ... you just thought it was a film from/of her colon.


35 posted on 09/21/2011 4:58:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: neverdem
Disband the ATF!
36 posted on 09/21/2011 5:01:05 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: neverdem

It seems that the operation was a success. Maybe some low level employee will be thrown under the bus but the real purpose of the plot is to prove that:

“GUNS KILL PEOPLE”

for the sake of enacting gun control. Nevermind that the guns were placed in the hands of murderers who used them accordingly.


37 posted on 09/21/2011 5:07:47 PM PDT by UnChained (The "stimulus" CAUSED the economy to tank.)
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To: neverdem

Wow, 200+ people murdered. I would say we deport the players for a Mexican trial and prison.


38 posted on 09/21/2011 5:10:34 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
they were thinking they could destroy the SECOND AMENDMENT!!!
39 posted on 09/21/2011 5:16:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NormsRevenge

In one of the links is a transcript of a conversation Holder had while being questioned about Fast and Furious.

Holder was asked if his Deputy AG James Cole authorized FAF. His reply, “my guess would be no”.

Holder is Cole’s boss. He should be able to pick up the phone and know the answer in about 2 minutes. What the heck is going on here?


40 posted on 09/21/2011 5:19:27 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: NormsRevenge

In one of the links is a transcript of a conversation Holder had while being questioned about Fast and Furious.

Holder was asked if his Deputy AG James Cole authorized FAF. His reply, “my guess would be no”.

Holder is Cole’s boss. He should be able to pick up the phone and know the answer in about 2 minutes. What the heck is going on here?


41 posted on 09/21/2011 5:19:50 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: MestaMachine

I will read the links in post #17: Thanks.

The American people need an executive summary. Of course, it wouldn’t hurt to have an honest media who would report the truth.


42 posted on 09/21/2011 5:25:31 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“What were they thinking?”

Exactly.

I have co-workers from Mexico and my kids have classmates from Mexico who all tell stories about car-jackings and other violence; fearing to drive at night; and whole sections of their country being a no-go area.

One of my friends had not seen her elderly grandparents for about three years. When she finally got to go back for a visit she could only see them once because they live out in a rural area and it was too dangerous to drive out that far and see them.

All of them are shocked and saddened by how much their country has disintegrated.

Now to find out the Obama admin is OK with that is upsetting.


43 posted on 09/21/2011 5:28:25 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Nachum

Enough to empeach any White President!


44 posted on 09/21/2011 6:07:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: Nachum
Enough to impeach any White President!
45 posted on 09/21/2011 6:08:02 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Fast and Furious: Time to Come Clean

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Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

46 posted on 09/21/2011 6:37:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

People are ONLY saying the F&F goal was (sorta) repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Nah!

It was:

1.(Sorta) repeal the 2nd Amendment

2. Move a huge portion of Northern Mexico into the USA, in order to vote.

3. Win the political allegiance of the new de-facto NarcoTeror RULERS of Mexico.

Good-hearted people naturally only see the FIRST objective, when it’s more likely there were these two others.


47 posted on 09/21/2011 6:51:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower; marktwain

48 posted on 09/21/2011 7:03:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

And thats just the ones we know about ... so far.


49 posted on 09/21/2011 7:07:12 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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btrl


50 posted on 09/21/2011 7:08:00 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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