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Fast and Furious Tapes: Sit Your Ass Down, Charles Grassley
Human Events ^ | 09/21/2011 | John Hayward

Posted on 09/21/2011 7:13:23 PM PDT by neverdem

CBS News has been among the few mainstream media outlets to treat the “Operation Fast and Furious” scandal as a big story all along. They just published some tapes of an amazing conversation between Arizona gun dealer Andrew Howard, who was one of the dealers used by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to deliberately sell American guns to Mexican drug cartels, and ATF agent Hope MacAllister.

Howard’s Lone Wolf Trading Company sold the guns that later turned up at the scene of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s murder. The tapes were made in February, just as the scandal was appearing on the radar screen of those who did not choose to studiously ignore it, like most of the supposedly scandal-hungry mainstream media.

A.W.R. Hawkins has a great write-up this morning of the “Watergate-sized leak” these tapes blow in the Obama Administration’s stone wall. I wanted to add a few other points from the CBS News transcript that jumped out at me:

First and foremost, after talking some smack about Senator Charles Grassley of the Judiciary Committee – who, according to the tapes, is an “arrogant bastard” – Agent MacAllister claims she actually suggested hiring a private investigator to dig up dirt on Grassley to shut him up. She makes it sound like a joke she told to break the tense mood in a meeting with her superiors. It sounds like MacAllister is a real live wire during ATF conference calls.

Agent: That's kind of what my suggestion but nobody thought that was funny like if I were a P.I. I'd put him on Grassley, I'm sure there's a lot would go away. Actually my one suggestion was just tell him in a registered Republican. I'm sure if he knew that everything would be fine, they...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: banglist; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; grassley; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ia; iowa; obama

1 posted on 09/21/2011 7:13:26 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower; marktwain; The Shrew
I remember how the MSM tried to ignore the John Kerry swiftboat lies for months and monts.

In the end, they had to cover it, to avoid looking totally clueless, or worse, like part of the coverup.

Gunwalker, of course, is a billion times worse, and more newsworthy.

Sooner or later, they will even put Sharl Atkinson's stories on the CBS Nightly News.


2 posted on 09/21/2011 7:16:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

I think it’s safe to say that Hope MacAllister’s career in federal law enforcement is over. One big rule of thumb in federal agencies is that you don’t let your personal opinions of certain senators who oversee your agency get back to the senators.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 7:17:56 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: neverdem

Who is calling for who’s resignation and how fast...I’m furious!


4 posted on 09/21/2011 7:22:52 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: neverdem
Bigger than Watergate. Much bigger.

I have to also say that the people in the transcript are very inarticulate and sound like they have pretty low IQs. Our overlords are basically morons with guns.

5 posted on 09/21/2011 7:23:06 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Bigger than Watergate. Much bigger.

If this gets any bigger Congress might send a letter to Holder asking him to consider looking into it. That'll teach them!

6 posted on 09/21/2011 7:25:11 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: neverdem

What, does CBS now work for Hillary? Could get real ugly!


7 posted on 09/21/2011 7:27:44 PM PDT by TBall
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To: TBall

Since the guns ended up in Mexico the solution is simple: just threaten to send Holder and MacAlister to the Mexican authorities.Let them face Mexican Justice.


8 posted on 09/21/2011 7:34:10 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Cementjungle

Why do I think like everything else under Obama’s watch that this will blow over too.
I’m geting cynical in my old age. Some people say it is just wiser.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 7:34:23 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: JimmyMc
Hope that is not the case. Rush spent some time on it today, read a great article detailing the issues. Greta just had Issa on regarding the stonewalling in Holders department. It is getting more attention as the guns are linked to more deaths.

It is somewhat odd that Drudge has been very light on the coverage.

10 posted on 09/21/2011 7:41:57 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’m for that. The Messican Laws are you are GUILTY until YOU prove your innocent. And no club fed down there. Yeah that’s a plan I can get behind.


11 posted on 09/21/2011 7:46:30 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: ClearCase_guy

How many people were killed in Watergate?


12 posted on 09/21/2011 7:46:34 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (welcome dies irae)
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To: InvisibleChurch

People thaough Martha Mitchell may have been offed for her big mouth.
And one of the WG ops wife was killed in a plane crash.

But Two hundred ..no way.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 7:48:24 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Travis McGee

CBS has given up on Obamas re-election so they now will join in the investigations of this most corrupt administration in history to “appear” to be objective. Had his poll numbers remained high, this would not be necessary. They have lied for him, covered for him for three years. This man should be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors but he will simply fade away and not run for re-election. For them, keeping the presidency in Democrat hands is the priority. So, now Hillary is the objective. Get the loser out, and usher in Hillary.


14 posted on 09/21/2011 7:48:44 PM PDT by sgfan1212
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To: JimmyMc
I think there is at least a better than 50% chance this won't blow over. There are too many bodies, a foreign government is pissed, and loose lips by amateurish agents being recorded are naming names and providing evidence for possible prosecution of members of the Obama Administration. An agent talking about having a PI dig up dirt on Senator Grassley is indeed an act of career suicide, and is going to raise some serious hackles. I can imagine Senator Grassley upon hearing of this conversation saying WTF!!!! Note to Senator Grassley and Congressmen Issa: Ask the nice agent if she has personal knowledge of Government employees digging up dirt of other politicians.

All of these people are safe for now, but in a few months, their lives may change drastically if a Republican is President and there is a Republican House and Senate. Some astonishing things are being leaked, and as another poster wrote, politicians don't like being disrespected by Federal employees. I think little miss McAllister will be appearing before Issa's committee soon. It will be worth watching.

On the other hand, the cynic in me whispers that CBS is pleading for Obama to clean house to save his presidency.

15 posted on 09/21/2011 7:54:18 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: opentalk

I hope you are right!


16 posted on 09/21/2011 7:55:14 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: sgfan1212

The Narcissist-in-Chief will not step aside for Hildebeest.


17 posted on 09/21/2011 7:55:22 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No one died in Watergate. I take a Skynyrd view on the subject.


18 posted on 09/21/2011 8:12:34 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: neverdem

So far any responses have been pretty much on the “C/P” liberal line of “attacking the attacker” ! >PS


19 posted on 09/21/2011 8:18:29 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: luvbach1
The Narcissist-in-Chief will not step aside for Hildebeest.

And The Machine can't afford to take The B!tch back.

What we got heayah is a sitcha-ayshyin.


20 posted on 09/21/2011 8:22:59 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Enterprise
Makes sense.

Any Hawkeyes out there want to call Sen. Grassley's office for a comment?

21 posted on 09/21/2011 8:25:00 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The agent could have been playing along. Nothing monumental came from these tapes. Also, I have heard that the agent in the recordings is top notch. The gun dealer got a raw deal as well.


22 posted on 09/21/2011 8:27:52 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Ken H

Any Hawkeyes out there want to call Sen. Grassley’s office for a comment?


I talked to him personally about 4 weeks ago. He didn’t make many comments, just listened.


23 posted on 09/21/2011 8:31:09 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Ken H
I hope there's a whole STATE full of people calling him tomorrow.

Senator Grassley, is it common for low level Federal employees to have Private Investigators hired to dig up dirt on Senators?

Senator Grassley, it has been said that the Senate is basically 100 of the most power people in the world. Is this no longer true, and has the Senate delegated its power and prestige to low level Federal employees?

Senator Grassley, why do Senators work so hard to get re-elected to office when the true power belongs to low level Federal employees?

24 posted on 09/21/2011 8:41:34 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


25 posted on 09/21/2011 8:47:41 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: neverdem

My experience with the BATF has shown the female agents to be the worst. They always have a chip on their shoulder.


26 posted on 09/21/2011 8:48:58 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Lighten up on the agents. They are not the problem. The bureaucracy?.... now there is your problem.


27 posted on 09/21/2011 8:58:07 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Maybe you’ve met different agents than I have. I stand by my comment.


28 posted on 09/21/2011 9:09:44 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: cornfedcowboy
Lighten up on the agents. They are not the problem. The bureaucracy?.... now there is your problem.

Isn't that like saying UAW workers are not the problem, GM management is.

29 posted on 09/21/2011 9:15:23 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Are we talking about the same Charles Grassley who swore he would not let the Able Danger Team down ... THAT C. Grassley?

Oh me of little faith.

30 posted on 09/21/2011 9:19:37 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Ken H

Isn’t that like saying UAW workers are not the problem, GM management is.


No, in that analogy it would be more like GM management directed the UAW workers to put together craps cars. Don’t blame the workers, blame the management.
This is exactly the problem. The Justice Dept. designed a scheme to further a failed and deadly political agenda. The agents weren’t trying to have the guns walked, their supervisors did. Heck, the FBI was actually giving $$$ to informants to buy guns and run them across the border without the ATF’s knowledge. This was directed from levels higher than field agents.


31 posted on 09/21/2011 9:25:28 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: sgfan1212
Get the loser out, and usher in Hillary

That might not work if 'Operation Castaway' gets out (run out of Miami, running guns to Honduras). There was a little on it as this story started coming out, but danged little since. The State Dept. had to be in on that one, and possibly the shuffling of military grade (not gun show stuff) weapons to the Cartels through a warehouse in New Mexico. Both operations were mentioned early on, but this has pushed them aside.

32 posted on 09/22/2011 1:24:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
33 posted on 09/22/2011 4:27:55 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: cornfedcowboy
Lighten up on the agents. They are not the problem.

Bullcrap. They're no better than the guards at Auschwitz were.

34 posted on 09/22/2011 6:07:04 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: neverdem

[It’s unclear why the Inspector General, who is supposed to investigate independently, would turn over evidence to an entity that is itself under investigation.]

I heard Issa talk about this last night on Greta. This prevented them from getting to interview agent McCallister without her knowing what they already knew.


35 posted on 09/22/2011 6:12:40 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Cementjungle

Look forward to Obama pardoning scores or hundreds of people before his last day in office, 20 Jan 2013.


36 posted on 09/22/2011 8:51:49 AM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: Lurker

Please don’t cheapen the Holocaust with comments like this. Until federal agents secretly arrest and murder people, there is no comparison.


37 posted on 09/22/2011 8:59:50 AM PDT by pabianice (")
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