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RUSH: On TEXAS and Presidential Politics
www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | September 21, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 09/22/2011 1:15:09 AM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; establishment; illegal; immigrant; jackkerwick; perry; republican; rino; rush
Rush, you're right as usual.
BUT, .... I just can't do it.
There's no way in hell I can compromise my values.
You said about "illegal immigration" and "Perry's in-state tuition business" :
Well ... that's me. There's no way in hell that I can support that Anti-American crap.
I just can't, and I won't!
I won't even think about it.

Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.


Well Rush, in closing, I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!
1 posted on 09/22/2011 1:15:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest
Rush is struggling with Perry's unconservative unAmerican inexcusable and all round miserable record on dealing with the illegal alien invaders—but he fears Perry may win the nomination and doesn't want ill will over the issue to cause Obama to win.
Like many of us,we want a REAL conservative to win the nomination,but the RINO elite with all the party money have their hearts set on their hommies Romney or Perry...
Rush,we feel your pain.
2 posted on 09/22/2011 1:33:17 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: Yosemitest

Not that it is important, but Rush should have said 270 electoral votes are needed. There are 435 Congressman. 538 total electoral votes.


3 posted on 09/22/2011 1:42:36 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Exactly. Come up with 235 electoral votes—and he’d fail as a campaign manager.


4 posted on 09/22/2011 1:49:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Happy Rain
If enough Tea Party members are elected to congress, they can force the next President support the borders. Just as the Republican controlled congress in the 1990s forced Clinton to support Welfare reform.
5 posted on 09/22/2011 1:55:39 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Yosemitest

Rush isn’t right as usual.

Texas isn’t about to suddenly vote for Obama if Perry isn’t the GOP nominee. Perry doesn’t even have a positive approval rating in his own state. (Though I fully expect he’d take Texas in the primary, because voters do get swept up with “their guy” as prez.)

If the GOP capitulates on illegal immigration so openly as to name Perry as their nominee, we might as well forget about the GOP as a party—and the US as a country.

I’ve been disgusted with Rush’s playing footsie with the Perry candidacy since he emerged as a president. Rush has been completely absorbed into the GOP Establishment at this point—and cleaved from the will and understanding of the people.

If he doesn’t wise up Mark Levin could replace him as our #1 “talker” by the end of 2012.


6 posted on 09/22/2011 1:58:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Yosemitest

I really like Rush though he seems to be wandering down a road that I don’t agree with. Either you have convictions or you have people help you to make a decision. No one can be perfect and 100% with point on everything in life-don’t even try it— but some of us do practice what we preach and we don’t have the power which he holds.


7 posted on 09/22/2011 2:17:47 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Yosemitest
Heard Rush today. This caller unable to let "reason' penetrate""- an all to typical response these days. (Understand per 'value'; just not in self-wounding/country destroying, application.) Thought for sure the Cranston example would be a breakthrough, but a mind like a steel door, is just that

America; our values; our future; close to being buried. Our potential irretrievable. To survive, we need a huge shovel. But, survival requires, that if only a small one appears, we must take it, and use it; until a bigger - more perfect one - shows up. The choice to not dig; but rather, to keep 'hands-in-pockets' and hold one's breath; until bigger/better choice comes along, is a fatal decision.

And given the scope of that personal decision, consider it a Treasonous choice as well.

That said; God Bless Rush for trying. . .

8 posted on 09/22/2011 2:18:53 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Yosemitest
Yes, jobs are #1.

Rush needs to check out this release from the Center for Immigration Studies. It has mega-stats on jobs/illegals in Texas.

Among the findings:

*Of jobs created in Texas since 2007, 81 percent were taken by newly arrived immigrant workers (legal and illegal).

*In terms of numbers, between the second quarter of 2007, right before the recession began, and the second quarter of 2011, total employment in Texas increased by 279,000. Of this, 225,000 jobs went to immigrants (legal and illegal) who arrived in the United States in 2007 or later.

*Of newly arrived immigrants who took a job in Texas, 93 percent were not U.S. citizens. Thus government data show that more than three-fourths of net job growth in Texas were taken by newly arrived non-citizens (legal and illegal).

*The large share of job growth that went to immigrants is surprising because the native-born accounted for 69 percent of the growth in Texas’ working-age population (16 to 65). Thus, even though natives made up most of the growth in potential workers, most of the job growth went to immigrants.

*snip*

As for his attracting businesses to Texas, just how many businesses does California have to grab? It worked for his state but is absurd on a national level.

9 posted on 09/22/2011 2:21:57 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: cricket

You are right. Rush was right. I’ve said many of the same things and around here you get flamed.

Rush was not talking compromise as much as he was the wisdom of choosing your battles. Those are often confused by those who like to warp themselves in a false purity, but they are not the same thing.

The one battle we absolutely CANNOT afford to compromise on in 2012 is the removal of the socialists from power, period. And he’s right. His point is this: if we get too distracted on any other issue and it causes us to not take power back from the Democrats, then all is lost and nothing else matters.

Rush is not a compromiser and certainly no friend of the establishment elites - and he constantly says the way to win is unabashed conservatism. And he’s a strong borders guy and always has been. But he is ultimately pragmatic and logical. The Titanic is sinking and the water is rushing in through the hole created by Democrats in charge. If we don’t plug that hole, we are sunk. Period.

Everything else is a matter of arranging deck chairs.


10 posted on 09/22/2011 2:47:29 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Happy Rain
Rush is struggling with Perry's unconservative unAmerican inexcusable and all round miserable record

Huh???...I must have read a different article. You Palinites crack me up.!!!!!!!

11 posted on 09/22/2011 3:02:04 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: 9YearLurker

The same argument he made about George W Bush against McCain.
I recall him Saying Bush was The More Conservative in the Race between those two,So take it for what its worth on How you think Bush acted,and how you think Perry would.
Saw Perry Last Night on Hannity and when asked about Social Security and what he would do and hes back to saying he wants to have a Conversation,well tell me what the Hell you are going to propose and how it would work,I am tired of hearing what the Freakin Problem is,I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS!
Folks we are screwed if this is the Best we have


12 posted on 09/22/2011 3:11:44 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Happy Rain

Rush is explaining the facts (”undeniable truths,” if you will).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2760888/posts#32

I love your, “unconservative,” “unAmerican,” “inexcusable,” “miserable,” “RINO elite” descriptive montage...

VS

REAL conservative.


13 posted on 09/22/2011 3:15:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ballplayer
.........Conversation,well tell me what the Hell you are going to propose and how it would work,..........

Watch it again I guess you left early.

And after the break

14 posted on 09/22/2011 3:22:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah sure like STATE EMPLOYEES getting to Opt out! This guy is a Freakin Fraud,these Rinos always think the same way,Government workers get to opt out, I love that thinking,the Peons can get screwed but the Precious Union Government workers ,who we know Make all the Sacrifices get the Breaks.
This along with Illegal Immigration,his crony Capitialism with the Millions he gives out on Speculative ventures ,who needs MORE of that crap.


15 posted on 09/22/2011 4:05:46 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2782017/posts


16 posted on 09/22/2011 4:07:16 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

I figured right.


17 posted on 09/22/2011 4:22:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Rush was not talking compromise as much as he was the wisdom of choosing your battles. Those are often confused by those who like to warp themselves in a false purity, but they are not the same thing.

The one battle we absolutely CANNOT afford to compromise on in 2012 is the removal of the socialists from power, period. And he’s right. His point is this: if we get too distracted on any other issue and it causes us to not take power back from the Democrats, then all is lost and nothing else matters.”

....not to mention getting another anti-Bork as a member of the Supreme Court....and a ton of others on the lesser courts.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 4:37:42 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Yosemitest

Can anyone tell me what Romney’s plan is for Social Security? Bachmann’s? Palin’s?

I appreciate Perry’s willingness to get the conversation going. I saw him last night on Hannity & he talked about various solutions - one thing he was adamant about was that seniors are not going to have their benefits changed at all. Young people are eager to have the conversation and get to the business of overhauling SS so they can have the security of knowing something will be there for them as well.

Perry’s got flaws - so do ALL of the others. I think, when you look at the big picture - Perry is the one that can carry us to victory. We’ve also got to get the Congress lined out too - then we can hash over these kinds of issues. Right now, we have to win.


19 posted on 09/22/2011 5:32:52 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

I’d like to see a move toward the Chilean plan. It was done here in America for three counties, but it is illegal now.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 5:34:46 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I know a guy from Singapore and he was telling me that they had a similar problem with their social security type plan - they now have a private investment account for each worker where the government matches their contributions. The account is in the individual’s name & is assured to be there when the person retires.

Kudos for Perry moving this forward - instead of using it as an issue to once again, strike fear and get everyone to shut up about it. Romney and the others really just want to kick the can down the road - they don’t have the spine to put it out on the table.


21 posted on 09/22/2011 5:44:30 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

IF Perry is the next “ONE”, I will vote straight Republican EXCEPT for President. I will vote for Obama. I will not vote for Perry no matter how much lipstick you smear on him.
He is no different than every other “ONE” who talks one way and ACTS another.


22 posted on 09/22/2011 6:05:50 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: alicewonders
I can't vote for Perry or Romney, no matter what.
For general information on the candidates, try OnTheIssues.org . I'm not really fond of this site, but you can get a rough idea of where they stand.
My favorites in order are Palin, Bachmann, Cain, and Gingrich.

Perry, Romney, Ron Paul, and Huntsman won't ever get my vote.

Perry doesn't have a real plan to secure the border, at least one you could have any trust it.
Perry's a bad liberal joke when it comes to security and Immigration.
Here's a real plan.

Let's review what Palin has said:
You can't get anymore clear and pro-LEGAL/anti-ILLEGAL than that.
It's a crying shame that Perry doesn't have that kind of backbone.
It's very simple. Build the fence. Build a real fence.
Then when the border is secure, we can fix immigration, both ILLEGAL and legal.

23 posted on 09/22/2011 6:06:49 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

Palin is not a candidate.


24 posted on 09/22/2011 6:12:07 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

Not yet, but the election hasn’t happened yet, either.


25 posted on 09/22/2011 6:15:06 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

Even Palin said, “vote for ABO” (anybody but Obama).


26 posted on 09/22/2011 6:18:34 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders
I won't even think about it.
The RINOs can comprise. I've voted for my last RINO.
27 posted on 09/22/2011 6:37:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Agree...for certain we do not want a ‘second Titanic’. There is still time. May the rational and pragmatic, prevail. We need Republicans in control and in those deck chairs.


28 posted on 09/22/2011 1:47:36 PM PDT by cricket
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To: cricket

yep, in control, plug the major socialist hole that threatens our very existence - and then we can all debate the arrangement of those deck chairs on issues that are important, but not as critical as that socialist hole being filled first.


29 posted on 09/22/2011 1:53:26 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: cricket

yep, in control, plug the major socialist hole that threatens our very existence - and then we can all debate the arrangement of those deck chairs on issues that are important, but not as critical as that socialist hole being filled first.


30 posted on 09/22/2011 1:53:49 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: alicewonders
That there are so many excellent and proven alternatives to our SS problem proves that the underlying reason to retain SS is control - People (Seniors) and OPM.

Romney and the others really just want to kick Rick Perry.

Perry's calculated that his SS 'attack' will be a distinguishing feature of his General campaign. I suspect he'll use this to pull the other candidates into an ambush by pulling out Chile, the three Texas counties and now your Singapore examples. It will be an effective tool against both the GOP field and Obama.

If he can do it he'll capture the middle aged and the seniors and stifle a lot of the youth vote for the Democrats. It is a game changer. I like what I am seeing from Perry.

31 posted on 09/23/2011 4:57:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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