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Memo to Perry: Dog-cuss the Democrats, not the 'cue
Southern Political Report ^ | September 22, 2011 | Tom Baxter

Posted on 09/22/2011 6:39:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Perry has some splainin’ to do when he gets to Eastern North Carolina, and we’re not talking about his dog-cussing of Democrats and Ben Bernanke.

Back when he was the Texas agriculture commissioner, Perry tried some Eastern North Carolina barbecue at the 1992 Republican National Convention in Houston, and reportedly said, “I’ve had road kill that tasted better than that.”

The remark got picked in a book, “Holy Smoke: the Big Book of North Carolina Barbecue,” by John Shelton Reed and Dale Volberg Reed. That volume is probably making the rounds of Mitt Romney’s headquarters right now.


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-- SO! Now everyone knows Rick Perry has had to eat road kill!

He wasn't born with 4 aces in his hand like Mitt Romney, you know!!

Please can't you LEAVE Rick Perry alone!

Sob~~~sob~~~sob -- and you know who you are!

1 posted on 09/22/2011 6:39:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That volume is probably making the rounds of Mitt Romney’s headquarters right now.

Mitt Romney would probably put Grey Poupon on his BBQ.

2 posted on 09/22/2011 6:41:12 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Get a rope!


3 posted on 09/22/2011 6:42:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Back when he was the Texas agriculture commissioner, Perry tried some Eastern North Carolina barbecue at the 1992 Republican National Convention in Houston, and reportedly said, “I’ve had road kill that tasted better than that.” The remark got picked in a book, “Holy Smoke: the Big Book of North Carolina Barbecue,” by John Shelton Reed and Dale Volberg Reed. That volume is probably making the rounds of Mitt Romney’s headquarters right now.

So? He didn't like that particular bbq. That's a scandal, now?

But Obama's crew can do Fast and Furious gunwalking, bilk the taxpayers out of billions with Solyndra, have no birth certificate or personal history, use the Justice Department less for justice and more to harass opponents, and that's okay.

4 posted on 09/22/2011 6:45:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Today, I will only post in one word answers.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gee, I don’t know, Tom... Maybe you’d better re-check that barbeque recipe.


5 posted on 09/22/2011 6:45:40 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He wasn't born with 4 aces in his hand like Mitt Romney

Sure he was, Paint Creek is like The Hamptons of north Texas. /s

6 posted on 09/22/2011 6:46:06 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Lazamataz
It must be the pork and Perry was looking for the beef!
7 posted on 09/22/2011 6:47:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Savage Beast
I didn't know Eastern North Carolina was known for barbecue.
8 posted on 09/22/2011 6:47:09 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh now c’mon. It’s just a little southern joshin’. Y’all can’t tell me that the gentle folk of North Carolina have NEVER said ANYTHING critical of Texas cooking!


9 posted on 09/22/2011 6:47:09 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can see why Perry felt that way:

http://carolinasaucecompany.blogspot.com/2008/05/regional-bbq-styles.html

*Eastern NC style BBQ Sauce: Authentic eastern NC style Barbeque sauce is deceptively simple in its short list of ingredients, but when blended in the correct proportions this tart, tangy and spicy thin sauce is the perfect complement for smoky pulled pork BBQ. Genuine eastern NC barbecue sauce is vinegar-based with no (or barely any) tomato and a healthy dose of pepper, usually ground black and/or red pepper flakes. The sauce may be savory, or might include some sugar, and either white or cider vinegar is used. Representative eastern NC barbecue sauces include Scotts Barbecue Sauce and Wells Hog Heaven Barbecue Sauce.

*Texas BBQ: Texas has regional styles, just like NC, but is commonly associated with Beef Brisket and beef ribs seasoned with a dry rub and served with a thick, not-too-sweet savory sauce on the side. Representative dry rubs and Texas BBQ sauces include Texas Rib Rangers Seasonings, and Texas Rib Rangers BBQ Sauces.


Vinegar as BBQ sauce? Sounds more like a salad dressing.


10 posted on 09/22/2011 6:48:23 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: okie01

Ping to a Perry BBQ thread, like the good ol’ days.


11 posted on 09/22/2011 6:49:29 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: humblegunner; shield
Maybe Perry should swing by and campaign in West Virginia.


12 posted on 09/22/2011 6:51:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy

Well, it has me salivating.


13 posted on 09/22/2011 6:53:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If the American people do not wake up--and fast!--they and their children are going to become experts on eating road-kill!

Decadence is a bitch! And if Americans do not end it soon--eating road-kill is going to be one of the least of their worries! They'll be longing for they days when they had road-kill to eat!

WAKE UP, AMERICA! AND FAST!

14 posted on 09/22/2011 6:53:04 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: Savage Beast
..... They'll be longing for they days when they had road-kill to eat!

And their box in the middle of the road!!!

15 posted on 09/22/2011 6:54:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Now everyone knows Rick Perry has had to eat road kill!

The Horse Flies - Roadkill

16 posted on 09/22/2011 6:54:12 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Oh no, it’s really good. At least, I really love it. I never really compare it to Texas-style, though, because in my mind, they are two completely different animals.


17 posted on 09/22/2011 6:55:00 AM PDT by USMCWife6869
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To: dirtboy

The Perry campaign should sign them up!


18 posted on 09/22/2011 6:56:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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19 posted on 09/22/2011 6:58:14 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Barbeque is an ethical argument, particularly when it comes to the sauce.

Memphis, Little Rock, and Kansas City Barbeque styles all use pork as the base and a tomato based sauce. Memphis is the “standard” sauce, Little Rock is sweeter, KC is a little less sweet and more smoky.

Texas Barbeque is beef based with a very savory sauce.

North Carolina is pork based with a vinegar based sauce.

South Carolina is pork based with a mustard based sauce.

I personally prefer a Memphis style sauce when I eat pulled pork (Sweet Baby Rays is my current favorite), a dry rub when I eat ribs, and a Texas style sauce when I eat beef.

But eat what you enjoy, it’s not a moral argument!

Chili, on the other hand, is a moral argument.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 6:58:59 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: dirtboy
There is quite a difference between TX and Carolina BBQ

Eastern North Carolina BBQ Sauce
Ingredients
• 1 cup white vinegar
• 1 cup cider vinegar
• 1 tablespoon brown sugar
• 1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
• 1 tablespoon hot pepper sauce (e.g. Tabasco™), or to taste
• 1 teaspoon salt
• 1 teaspoon ground black pepper
Directions
1. Combine the white vinegar, cider vinegar, brown sugar, cayenne pepper, hot pepper sauce, salt and pepper in a jar or bottle with a tight-fitting lid. Refrigerate for 1 to 2 days before using so that the flavors will blend. Shake occasionally, and store for up to 2 months in the refrigerator.

Brisket with BBQ Sauce
Ingredients
• 4 pounds lean beef brisket
• 2 tablespoons liquid smoke flavoring
• 1 tablespoon onion salt
• 1 tablespoon garlic salt

• 1 1/2 tablespoons brown sugar
• 1 cup ketchup
• 3 tablespoons butter
• 1/4 cup water
• 1/2 teaspoon celery salt
• 1 tablespoon liquid smoke flavoring
• 2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
• 1 1/2 teaspoons mustard powder
• salt and pepper to taste
Directions
1. Pour liquid smoke over brisket. Rub with onion salt and garlic salt. Roll brisket in foil and refrigerate overnight.
2. Preheat oven to 300 degrees F (150 degrees C). Place brisket in a large roasting pan. Cover and bake for 5 to 6 hours. Remove from oven, cool, and then slice. Put slices back into pan.
3. In a medium saucepan, combine brown sugar, ketchup, butter, water, celery salt, liquid smoke, Worcestershire sauce, mustard, salt and pepper. Stir, and cook until boiling.
4. Pour sauce over meat slices in pan. Cover and bake for 1 more hour.

21 posted on 09/22/2011 6:59:22 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"I didn't know Eastern North Carolina was known for barbecue."

Neither did I, but they certainly are touchy about it.

There must be some truth in Perry's evaluation--to get them so riled up. Maybe they've heard that sort of thing before.

22 posted on 09/22/2011 6:59:22 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"I didn't know Eastern North Carolina was known for barbecue."

Neither did I, but they certainly are touchy about it.

There must be some truth in Perry's evaluation--to get them so riled up. Maybe they've heard that sort of thing before.

23 posted on 09/22/2011 6:59:22 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: Enterprise
Since Obama's driven America into a depression (economically and emotionally) we're all going to be eating chili again!

Texas First Lady Anita Perry's Chuck Wagon Chili

24 posted on 09/22/2011 7:02:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Chili, on the other hand, is a moral argument.

Post 24 to you then.

25 posted on 09/22/2011 7:04:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Savage Beast

Bet Michelle could dig into these!

26 posted on 09/22/2011 7:06:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s not a bad chili, a little light on the cumin for my taste, but good amount of peppers.


27 posted on 09/22/2011 7:08:19 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: dirtboy

Actually I like the Vinegar nased BBQ sauce on occasion.

But: I have had some that made me pucker up like I had eaten a not ready persimmon.

Hard to judge a man by his taste in BBQ.


28 posted on 09/22/2011 7:12:39 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Lazamataz

I would wager to say that it probably wasn’t because he didn’t like the BBQ, but it wasn’t Texas BBQ.

This is a very serious allegation. Unless he issued an EO that only Texas BBQ could be eaten, I could forget this easylike.


29 posted on 09/22/2011 7:13:41 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s the trouble with the Carolinas......North.....South.....now Eastern North Carolina?......looks mighty wet in Eastern North Carolina.


30 posted on 09/22/2011 7:15:18 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Um...is this article worth posting? So he didn’t like the food at a barbecue, so what?


31 posted on 09/22/2011 7:16:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: Savage Beast; Eric in the Ozarks

Next you’ll be telling me you didn’t know about the Wright Brothers, Duke Carolina basketball, or tobacco. They’ve been barbecuing pigs in eastern NC this way longer than most states have been states.....


32 posted on 09/22/2011 7:17:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RockinRight
WELL! Check this OUT!

A North Carolina B-B-Q eating (judge) AND former Cambridge professor is ANTI-science!!!

".....John has been a judge at the Memphis-in-May World Championship Barbecue Cooking Contest and gave the 1995 Kemp Plummer Battle Lecture to UNC’s Dialectic and Philanthropic Societies on the subject “Science Lies When It Says Hogmeat’s Got Little Bugs in It” (honest). He’s not a pitmaster, but he was the Pitt Professor at Cambridge University in 1996–97." Source

33 posted on 09/22/2011 7:26:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As much as I dislike Rick Perry as a corrupt ringleader for illegal immigration and crony capitalism, that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read... reaching back 20 years for a comment of his disliking a single serving he ate, and using it as a wedge issue between him and critical swing state?


34 posted on 09/22/2011 7:34:27 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As much as I dislike Rick Perry as a corrupt ringleader for illegal immigration and crony capitalism, that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read... reaching back 20 years for a comment of his disliking a single serving he ate, and using it as a wedge issue between him and critical swing state?


35 posted on 09/22/2011 7:34:35 AM PDT by dangus
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I salute North Carolina’s pigs and their dedication to BBQ.
(why are you keeping it a secret ?)


36 posted on 09/22/2011 7:36:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ever had North Carolina BBQ? He’s right!!


37 posted on 09/22/2011 7:39:26 AM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: dusttoyou

North Carolina has 15 Electoral Votes so I guess we can nibble on their ribs and smile.


38 posted on 09/22/2011 7:42:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Moochele knew about Salt Lick, she’d make ZERO campaign here every week.


39 posted on 09/22/2011 7:45:06 AM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Next I’ll be tellin ya the Wright Brothers were from OHIO.


40 posted on 09/22/2011 7:49:12 AM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: dusttoyou

Pronounced “Oh-high-yah.”


41 posted on 09/22/2011 7:52:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

LOL.... sorta like Illa-noise.


42 posted on 09/22/2011 7:58:11 AM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope this one isn’t true. If he really said that, I hope he was just having an unusual bad moment. I’d like to think that serious candidates for our nation’s highest office have a bit more manners than that.


43 posted on 09/22/2011 8:03:37 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: dusttoyou

True that, but if they had stayed in Ohio, no one would ever have known who they are.....


44 posted on 09/22/2011 8:09:25 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: WFTR

In 1992 he was not a serious candidate for any high office - but more to the point, at a convention, he probably said it to tweak some North Carolinian friend of his standing right there - or some such horsing around like that. I mean, it’s not like this was part of a keynote address.

I’m from NC, and it doesn’t bother me that Texans totally mis use the term barbecue.


45 posted on 09/22/2011 8:11:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
North Carolina is pork based with a vinegar based sauce.

You kind'a got that wrong. EASTERN North Carolina BBQ is pork with a vinegar based sauce. Lexington style sauce which the rest of North Carolina favors is something like Eastern sauce but with ketchup in it.

I was born in Texas and raised in Oklahoma and to me BBQ means beef (except for some pork ribs).

The first time I went to NC with my wife and she said she wanted Que I was quite happy. When they served me a plate of chopped up pig with vinegar on it I felt the same way Perry did. Over the years I have developed a taste for pig vinegarette (as I refer to it), and I can smoke up a pretty good pig shoulder, but it still ain't BarBQue.

46 posted on 09/22/2011 8:12:28 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: dusttoyou

And Dah Moynss


47 posted on 09/22/2011 8:16:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Cowman

Do you realize that you gave us a recipe for Eastern North Carolina BBQ without any pig in it?

Throw a whole pig (only the shoulders if you are any where else in NC) on to the grill (we have an entire industry here devoted to building pig cookers that are designed just for this) early in the morning and leave it for most of the day at about 250, skin side up. About an hour or so before you want to eat it, turn it over and pour in about a half gallon of the sauce that you were kind enough to give the recipe for. Take it off the grill and remove the meat. Put the meat into a chopping box and proceed to chop it with a hoe (I have one that I only use for this purpose). If you don’t have a box, you can use a butcher block and a couple of cleavers. Eastern NC barbeque is also called ‘whole hog’ barbeque.

Second: what are you doing with liquid smoke on a brisket when wood is so cheap?


48 posted on 09/22/2011 8:26:38 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: C. Edmund Wright
...as I say...those eastern North Carolina people certainly are touchy.

Next you'll be asking me if I've ever heard of Sandra Bulloch.

49 posted on 09/22/2011 8:38:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

If he was just bantering with a friend from North Carolina, that would make sense. If he were serious, the incident would still point to his being rude and boorish. We don’t need that in a candidate. The point is not whether he insulted a state or a person. The point is what the incident would say about him. I have serious reservations about Rick Perry, but I’m inclined to believe either that the whole story is a myth or that you are right about him just teasing with friends.


50 posted on 09/22/2011 8:42:21 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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