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Susan Powell father-in-law: child porn charges
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Posted on 09/23/2011 7:06:00 AM PDT by nuconvert

TACOMA, Wash. -- The father-in-law of a missing Utah woman was charged Thursday with voyeurism and possession of child pornography after police investigating her disappearance came across thousands of images of women videotaped without their knowledge, some of his daughter-in-law, Pierce County authorities said.

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KEYWORDS: missing; perv; pervert; susanpowell; ut; wa
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1 posted on 09/23/2011 7:06:06 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

That poor woman.


2 posted on 09/23/2011 7:08:55 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: nuconvert

Wasn’t this the guy who was making allegations that she was into creepy sex stuff?


3 posted on 09/23/2011 7:09:33 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Shimmer1

Yes. And those poor kids.


4 posted on 09/23/2011 7:10:11 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Mr. Silverback

He’s the CREEP


5 posted on 09/23/2011 7:10:59 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Not surprised at all.


6 posted on 09/23/2011 7:13:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: nuconvert

Wel, yeah...my point was never that she was a perv. I think the reason he and his boy were slandering her was...

1. Dad’s a perv and likes to talk about pervy things so he told the press his daughter was a perv.

2. If the police go to trial without finding a body they’ve put the idea in the head of the jury pool that she’s a superfreak who ran out on the poor hubby. Get one juror stupid enough to think that’s a route to reasonable doubt and you have your get out of jail free card.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 7:15:55 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: nuconvert
"The photographer focuses on the women's buttocks, breasts," Lindquist said in a statement. "Many images were of minor females."

Excuse me for actually reading the article, but as near as I can tell the videos were taken in public places of fully-clothed people.

I honestly don't understand how that becomes "child porn."

8 posted on 09/23/2011 7:19:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
1. Dad’s a perv and likes to talk about pervy things so he told the press his daughter was a perv.

Sounds like the Italian judge at the Amanda Knox trial.

9 posted on 09/23/2011 7:20:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: reaganaut

hey there x-morman, welcome to the light... God Bless


10 posted on 09/23/2011 7:20:52 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: nuconvert

If I recall correctly this is the story where the husband of the missing woman decided at midnight, in freezing temps, to take their two small boys camping..... and that night the Mother disappeared, is that right?


11 posted on 09/23/2011 7:22:19 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Wel, yeah...my point was never that she was a perv.”

I know. It makes me angry that these boys have to grow up without a mother and their grandfather & father go around slandering her to boot.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 7:23:07 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Yes, that’s the story


13 posted on 09/23/2011 7:24:16 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Maybe arresting him will scare him into talking about what happened to the daughter-in-law. That would be helpful.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 7:24:20 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: dps.inspect

Thanks. Been out for 18 years now. Now I help others leave. :)


15 posted on 09/23/2011 7:25:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Mr. Silverback

This is the father of the guy who took his kids on a ‘camping trip’ after midnight on one of the coldest nights of the year the same night he said his wife ‘ran off with another man’..................


16 posted on 09/23/2011 7:25:53 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: nuconvert
Steven Powell said he had a flirtatious relationship with his daughter-in-law and believed they were in love.

What the ......? I don't care if any of the rest of it is true re this guy's perversions. (Whoso looketh after a woman with lust hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.)

His incestuous inclination is enough to make him seriously disturbed IMO. His son's wife? Are you kidding me?!

17 posted on 09/23/2011 7:27:41 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: nuconvert
Steven Powell said he had a flirtatious relationship with his daughter-in-law and believed they were in love.

What the ......? I don't care if any of the rest of it is true re this guy's perversions. (Whoso looketh after a woman with lust hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.)

His incestuous inclination is enough to make him seriously disturbed IMO. His son's wife? Are you kidding me?!

18 posted on 09/23/2011 7:27:41 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: nuconvert

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Father = sex pervert :: Son = murderer


19 posted on 09/23/2011 7:28:01 AM PDT by twister881
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When there’s a hint of something in one article, you may find more in another...

“Some of the videos found in Steven Powell’s Puyallup, Wash., home were apparently shot through the window of two neighbor girls, ages 8 and 10 at the time, as they were taking a bath, using the toilet or dressing, prosecutors said.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/09/steven-powell-arrested-susan-powell-utah-puyallup.html


20 posted on 09/23/2011 7:29:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Get one juror stupid enough

Check my tagline bump....

21 posted on 09/23/2011 7:32:05 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Yep, this is that same case.


22 posted on 09/23/2011 7:34:25 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: nuconvert

Maybe she had been getting ready to blow the whistle on this guy when she “disappeared”?


23 posted on 09/23/2011 7:36:12 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: reaganaut

This kind of changes things a bit - now I’m leaning toward this creepy perv being the killer and the son just being a patsy for Daddy.


24 posted on 09/23/2011 7:47:58 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I am wondering if the husband (due to trouble with their marriage/sex life/whatever) brought up the father's contention that he was in love with the wife, or thought that his wife was actually flirting with his father, and the wife said, "well, he's more a man than you" or "well, at least he likes women".

BOOM.

As a police officer once told me, "all it takes is one WRONG WORD and you will strike someone."

25 posted on 09/23/2011 8:19:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

In the addled brain of a perv, he sometimes thinks women want what he is doing - even if they don’t say it out loud. He may have seen her as being sexual because he obviously sees even young girls as sexual objects. Perhaps he conveyed to his son that the wife was a floozie, or maybe both men are just nuts! It still defies logic that the father would admit on camera that he was banging his daughter in law.


26 posted on 09/23/2011 8:23:35 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; nuconvert

So.... have you had time to actually read the article linked in POST 20 ?

I found it very informative.

(Thanks, nuconvert, for the link)


27 posted on 09/23/2011 8:26:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: twister881
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Then consider this. Maybe son was a peeping tom just like dear old dad. Maybe the wife caught him at it, and asked for a divorce or was going to the police.

28 posted on 09/23/2011 8:28:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
now I’m leaning toward this creepy perv being the killer and the son just being a patsy for Daddy.

I can't see a motive for the father-in-law to kill his son's wife.

I can see plenty of motives for the Son to do so.

I notice that the son moved back in with the father after the wife's 'disappearance'. I can't believe the son didn't know about his father's predilections. Is the son looking for the love his father didn't give him? Was the wife competition for that love, considering the Father-in-laws claims about his 'special' relationship with the daughter-in-law?

29 posted on 09/23/2011 8:35:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Wasn’t this the guy who was making allegations that she was into creepy sex stuff?

Here is the original story about the creepy sex stuff.

'She used to make me smell her hair': Father-in-law of missing Utah woman reveals extraordinary details of their 'sexual relationship'

30 posted on 09/23/2011 8:43:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
You don't think a perv who thinks his daughter in law is flirting with him might kill her in a rage when she turned him down?

I realize this is a very disfunctional family - but it would seem odd to me that the son would move in with Daddy if he killed his wife because daddy was banging her.

But, obviously, these two are both mental

31 posted on 09/23/2011 8:48:38 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: nuconvert; All

Based upon the family’s strident objections, I’m guessing the wife was promiscuous.
There is a distinct possibility the husband taking the kids into the wilderness was:
a. the son providing an opportunity for his father and wife to have a tryst that went bad.
b. the son was weak and couldn’t kill his wife but the father could. The trip was a diversion to get the kids out of the house while the mother was being murdered.
If the father is a voyeur, it’s unlikely he has the courage to act out.
But what do I know, I’m just another person on the Internet who has an opinion.


32 posted on 09/23/2011 8:49:46 AM PDT by j.argese (You may think you've won the day, in the end you will surely lose the important race.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
In the addled brain of a perv, he sometimes thinks women want what he is doing

'Father-in-law, daughter-in-law flirting with each other, maybe some sexual touching or whatever. And I enjoyed it, frankly. '

'We interacted in a lot of sexual ways because Susan enjoys doing that.'

From: Police-search-home-husband-father-law-missing-Utah-mother.

33 posted on 09/23/2011 8:53:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Shimmer1
I saw an interview with this filthy mental case. I said to myself he is a sex fiend and he killed her. He claims his DIL was in love with him? What a sicko.
34 posted on 09/23/2011 8:54:20 AM PDT by angcat (RUN SARAH RUN!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
It still defies logic that the father would admit on camera that he was banging his daughter in law.

He read his daughter-in-law's teenage diaries. He ENJOYED what he called sexual flirtation (and he was the one who developed fantasies around it).

What is not explained very well by the FIL is why the Daughter in law moved to UTAH to get away from him.

35 posted on 09/23/2011 8:59:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
You don't think a perv who thinks his daughter in law is flirting with him might kill her in a rage when she turned him down?

IIRC, the son and DIL have moved away to UTAH to get away from dear old DAD, to UTAH. Pullyallup is in WASHINGTON. I don't think dear old DAD had OPPORTUNITY.

Is there any proof DAD was in WASHINGTON the day she disappeared?

36 posted on 09/23/2011 9:04:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Please don’t misunderstand - I’m not arguing with you - merely bouncing ideas. I do not know enough about this case yet - just thought the idea of going camping in the middle of the night, and then the father in law’s bizarre announcement of his affair with her was too strange to be true. Now with this information about him being a pervert it just seems to be more connected than before.


37 posted on 09/23/2011 9:10:27 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
if he killed his wife because daddy was banging her.

I think the 'banging' her part was only a fantasy in the father in law's head.

When they were living ALL TOGETHER in WASHINGTON, the father in law seems to have taken the DIL's lack of modesty, or openness with her beauty as 'flirting'. A real man would have either dis-regarded these events or simply told the DIL he felt uncomfortable with her flaunting her sexuality around him.

Since it now seems that the FIL is not a real man, that explains his fantasy about his DIL. I don't believe he ever said they actually had sex. He seemed to believe that eventually it would lead to that.

38 posted on 09/23/2011 9:12:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: nuconvert
"You got Lojack in an '87 Cutlass?"


39 posted on 09/23/2011 9:17:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Please don’t misunderstand - I’m not arguing with you - merely bouncing ideas.

We are on the same page, my dear FRiend. I could be totally wrong about everything. I post what related info I can find and offer my 'thoughts'. Your comments prompt me to do the research, and I learn from it. I don't have all the answers. Wish I did.

As I have told others many times in the past, when I am right, I learn nothing. It is only when I find I am wrong that I learn something new.

40 posted on 09/23/2011 9:19:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: j.argese

Since the father lived in Washington, and the Son/DIL lived in UTAH when she disappeared, is there any proof that the Father(in law) was anywhere near UTAH at the time and had the opportunity to murder her? I think this is a key issue if we are to consider the father in law as the murderer.


41 posted on 09/23/2011 9:22:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: j.argese
But what do I know,

Likely just about as much as the rest of us.

I’m just another person on the Internet who has an opinion.

And we take those opinions, mix them up together, sort out the wheat from the chaff, and come up with the most likely 'truth'. Two heads are better than one, and hundreds of heads are a wealth of input. That's what this open forum discussion board (FREE REPUBLIC) is all about.

: )

42 posted on 09/23/2011 9:26:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Now you have prompted me to read up on this case as well - if you see more info and think of it, ping me please - I do think you are right that this new info on the FIL probably means his fantasies about the DIL were just that - in his head.


43 posted on 09/23/2011 9:44:02 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: reaganaut
Been out for 18 years now. Now I help others leave

"out"?

Helping "others leave"?

You must be talking about the NOT-Mormons that practice polygamy etc?, not the REAL Mormons of the LDS church?

That should be made clear - and you both know it.

The legitimate LDS Church does not, as you imply, hold members unwillingly.

I joined the LDS church nearly 50 years ago. I have lived all over the states and attended in many places. The church is very consistent, not subject to the whims of different leaders - it's a lay church, largely.

I haven't been attending for over 15 years - no problem with the doctrine or anything else rather than I chose to not attend - too many meetings/time and I have a large family, and other obligations.

Church memebers continue to visit - but ONLY upon my invitation and always after calling first - and I have NEVER once been upbraided for not attending nor threatened with excommunication or anything. They do remind me, occasionally, that they'd love to see me at church, but there is NO pressure.

In the meantime, if I ever needed help, they'd be here - and have - in a minute.

So either you are NOT from the REAL LDS church or you are being deliberately disingenuous.

44 posted on 09/23/2011 10:41:27 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I thought that too, but apparently dear ol’ dad has a solid alibi for the time of the disappearance.

However, I can see it being used as a Jose Baez defense to bring in reasonable doubt.

I think hubby did it, and dad knows and is covering, hence the joint smear campaign.

I do remember reading that there were some issues with them because hubby went ‘inactive’ in the LDS church, but that usually doesn’t lead to death.


45 posted on 09/23/2011 12:44:21 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: j.argese; nuconvert

Based upon the family’s strident objections, I’m guessing the wife was promiscuous.

- - - —
I don’t think so. Her family did admit to her being sexually active as a teen, but her and her husband are LDS and she was what they called ‘active’ (believing, attending church member) and they have strict rules guarding sexual behavior. It is not uncommon for LDS teens to go through a ‘wild stage’ and then go through a lengthy ‘repentance process’ (and it is a real process) about the age of 18-19 either to go on an LDS mission or to get married in an LDS temple.

I think the dad is lying. IIRC he did have an alibi for the time of the disappearance.

What has been reported is that Josh (hubby) was controlling and abusive (although the examples I saw in the articles are not that uncommon in Utah/LDS culture), and that he threatened to take the kids and she was wanting a divorce. It is more likely that hubby went nuts when he found out about the divorce and killed her. This whole thing with his dad smells more like a setup for reasonable doubt if this goes to trial and to make the hubby look better.


46 posted on 09/23/2011 1:15:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: maine-iac7; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; ejonesie22; Elsie; SZonian; Jmouse007; Zakeet; ...

Yes ‘out’ - I was one of the early ones to go through the name removal process after the LDS church no longer required a ‘bishop’s court’ and to be excommunicated in order to have your name removed from LDS membership records. Even then I had to fight them for 3 years to get my name removed.

Helping ‘others leave’ is exactly what it says. I tell people about the Biblical Christ and expose the problems with Mormon history and doctrine, that their eyes may be opened by God to the falsity of Mormonism.

But moreso, I help those who have already discovered that Mormonism is an unChristian cult and have left. I help them deal with the residual issues and in their transition to Biblical Christianity. That involves explaining the differences in Mormon definitions and Biblical definitions, how to properly read the Bible for context and basic Christian theology. My calling is specifically to those who have already left Mormonism and come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Yes, I was a memeber of the ‘real LDS’ church for several years. I was faithful, active, tithe-paying and temple attending. I had a strong LDS ‘testimony’. I even prepared to go on an LDS mission. I didn’t leave because I wanted to sin or it was ‘too hard’, I left because I found out that Mormonism is false - Smith was a false prophet, the Book of Mormon wasn’t ‘true’, the Book of Abraham was a fraud, and that the LDS church lied about their history and doctrine.

I’m not talking about the FLDS (polygamist groups). They in fact are the “REAL Mormons”.

I never said the held members unwillingly, at least not since the turn of the century when they did away with the “Blood Atonement” doctrine officially. However they did, up until the early 1990’s force those who wanted their name removed to go through a ‘Bishops court’ and if they were refused to be excommunicated in absence. There was even a lawsuit regarding this and the LDS church lost (or settled out of court) saying it was defamation of character. Hence the change in policy and the creation of the ‘name removal’ process.

From your description, you haven’t left Mormonism, you have just become ‘inactive’. I assume your wife and children are still active. Hence no reason for them to harass you, which does happen more often than people realize. Of course they wouldn’t excommunicate you, they are happy they still have you as a number on their rolls. Of course they would love to see you at church, and if you made a move to actually leave they would ‘love bomb’ you to get you back.

Yeah, they will ‘be there’ under their conditions. Like Church welfare having the requirement of paying back tithing in order to be ‘worthy’ of it.

Mormonism is a non-Christian cult in every sense of the word. I am not disingenuous in the least. I am sincere and honest about my experience as a Mormon and my journey out and into Biblical Christianity.


47 posted on 09/23/2011 7:58:22 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Godzilla

ping to #47


48 posted on 09/23/2011 8:01:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw

Sorry, I forgot to ping you.


49 posted on 09/23/2011 9:51:26 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: maine-iac7

Be there in a minute.
Well, you are lucky.
My lds aunt was in IUC for six weeks and another ten before released.
My lds uncle says not one person from their ward came to help with the four young kids, not one meal, not one house cleaning nothing. ZIP
Before you say, well maybe they didn’t know - my uncle was the bishop.
There was one exception, on Thanksgiving Day someone brought them a pizza.
Please, don’t tell me - be there in a minute.
Would I have helped, you betcha. However, because I would not join lds, I was in essence shunned.
The flds actually live according to the original lds dictates, it is the people in SLC that has left the fold, even though they claim to be the only true group.


50 posted on 09/23/2011 10:25:41 PM PDT by svcw (It is who I am, it is what I do.)
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