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Republican Gay Rights Group Demands Apology from Santorum
CBS News ^ | September 23, 2011 | Lucy Madison

Posted on 09/23/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by lbryce

Members of the conservative gay rights group GOProud are demanding an apology from Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum for what they call his disrespectful comments directed at a gay soldier in Thursday night's GOP presidential debate.

"Tonight, Rick Santorum disrespected our brave men and women in uniform, and he owes Stephen Hill, the gay soldier who asked him the question about Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal, an immediate apology," said GOProud's Christopher Barron and Jimmy LaSalvia in a Thursday night press release.

During the Fox News/Google-sponsored debate, which took place in Orlando, Florida, a gay soldier deployed in Iraq asked the candidates if they would take measures to "circumvent" the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," if elected president.

Some audience members audibly booed the soldier -- a moment the GOP candidates on stage chose to ignore.

GOProud also noted that Santorum, who answered the question, declined to thank the soldier for his service, and called the repeal of DADT "social experimentation" - and "tragic."

"I would say any type of sexual activity has absolutely no place in the military," Santorum responded. "And the fact that they're making a point to include it as a provision within the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege to -- and removing 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' I think tries to inject social policy into the military. And the military's job is to do one thing, and that is to defend our country."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; gayaudacity; gayrights; gophomonazis; gophomopsychos; goproud; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualism; santorum
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I never could understand the political concept of "gay republican" other than that of being an oxymoron. There have been those like Andrew Breibart, Ann Coulter who've come to look upon gay republicans no different than others who've taken up the banner in support of the Republican agenda, Republican values.

The fact is, there can be no accomodation with gays who profess the Republican agenda, because being gay, living the gay life, indulgent in the abomination, perversion, deviancy that is homosexuality, renders their political affiliation, affinity for the Republican agenda makes any reference to themselves as Republicans moot, makes a mockery of Republican life-style, values, as irreconcilable anathema to all things Republican. And now we witness the surreal, where Republican gay right groups demand an apology as if they would ever deserve one,as if they are true legitimate Republicans, which they definitely are not. I say to them, get your damn as*es right on outta here, do you hear??

1 posted on 09/23/2011 10:01:28 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

for what?

don’t we still have free speech in this country?


2 posted on 09/23/2011 10:04:25 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: lbryce

This is outrageous.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 10:04:37 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lbryce

He doesn’t owe them crap. Santorum should tell them to (insert Maxine Waters’ famous quote).


4 posted on 09/23/2011 10:04:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lbryce

The problem isn’t homosexual conservatives but homosexual “conservatives” that form a lobby group and infiltrate in order to push their agenda.


5 posted on 09/23/2011 10:04:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: lbryce

I didn’t have a problem with his answer, though I probably would have thanked the solider for his service.

Gay or not, the dude is putting his life on the line. He just needs to keep his sexuality to himself.


6 posted on 09/23/2011 10:06:02 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: lbryce

The horrendous CRISIS that we now find ourselves in is not merely economic. It has been growing for many years. Our present-day culture is the product of ignoring God and trampling morality.

Personally, I do not expect to see any real solution to the crisis until the root causes are addressed...by all of us.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 10:07:14 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: lbryce
This is why republicans shouldn't "reach out' to any particular group - once you start down that path you'll inevitably end up where the democrats are today.

The individual American is the only morally appropriate constituency.

8 posted on 09/23/2011 10:07:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: lbryce

What you said!


9 posted on 09/23/2011 10:08:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lbryce

It doesn’t appear to me that Santorum said anything impolite, personal, or defamatory. He simply stated his position on the political issue under discussion.

If he apologizes, he’ll be a useless, cringing ninny.


10 posted on 09/23/2011 10:08:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick ( "It is my job to be rational, and I have no doubt at all that I have that power--sometimes.")
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To: lbryce
I gave blood the other day. The guy who asked Santorum that question the other day would not have been able to.
11 posted on 09/23/2011 10:08:55 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: lbryce

Hey...you don’t like what he said, don’t vote for him. Meanwhile, you’re in no position to “demand” anything.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 10:09:13 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: Tribune7

That’s a good thing.


13 posted on 09/23/2011 10:10:07 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lbryce

Obama uses everything he can to “speak” to the voters; and minority special interest groups use a speech to scream their hysterical demands. Rick Santorum handled his question very well.n And he is right.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 10:10:43 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs)
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To: econjack

I guess that means that Santorum will not get the 900 gay votes the Republican candidate would normally get in the general election. (if that many)


15 posted on 09/23/2011 10:11:51 AM PDT by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: skeeter
This is why republicans shouldn't "reach out' to any particular group - once you start down that path you'll inevitably end up where the democrats are today. The individual American is the only morally appropriate constituency.

Right on! I completely agree with this.

Govt. divides us by pitting us against each other and favoring one group over another, thereby leading to resentment and discord among "groups".

16 posted on 09/23/2011 10:11:58 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: lbryce

“”I would say any type of sexual activity has absolutely no place in the military,” Santorum responded.”

That may not go over too well.


17 posted on 09/23/2011 10:12:09 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: econjack

Let’s form a group and demand an apology from Romney for not saying what conservatives want to hear!!!!!!!


18 posted on 09/23/2011 10:12:26 AM PDT by IceAge
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19 posted on 09/23/2011 10:13:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

What is outrageous?

That a gay soldier was booed? Or that GOP Proud is making noise about it?

Look at this thread. Shoot. Look at the one we’re on now.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2782556/posts

Lots of FReepers support the gay soldier and are appalled at the booing. Lots of FReepers think the booing was justified.

So. What is outrageous???


20 posted on 09/23/2011 10:14:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Exactly correct, I would imagine that they are a large number of homosexuals that are fiscal conservatives and there fore tend to vote republican. Great, but groups that form there identity based on their immoral homosexual behavior are not conservatives and not republican either. They are infiltrators dedicated to the destruction of Western/Christian values.

It amazes me that so many in our society are bound and determined to bringing down our Western/Christian values. It is those values(W/C) that are keeping them alive and safe, they are in effect destroying the one thing that is protecting them. Fools.

21 posted on 09/23/2011 10:14:33 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: econjack; skeeter

22 posted on 09/23/2011 10:17:57 AM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: ken21
for what? don’t we still have free speech in this country?

This is religious persecution in passive aggressive dress.

23 posted on 09/23/2011 10:18:17 AM PDT by papertyger (Founding member of the "Never Make It To Akbar" Club.)
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To: lbryce

Just a thought: Gay Rights is another “single issue” isn’t it? Social Security is also a “single issue”, as well health insurance, and the list goes on.

If we look at all the “issues” the Left is throwing in the pot then we can see a trend, a pattern. The more “single issues” beneficial to the Leftist cause the more they break up the voting public into “single issue” voting, thus the better chance of the Democrat winning.

It’s almost like entering a third party to the race for potus


24 posted on 09/23/2011 10:20:22 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why don’t you tell me what you think about it? Forget about “Lots of FReepers”.


25 posted on 09/23/2011 10:20:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lbryce
I received an email this morning from a liberal progressive friend in Florida. He's was trying to look down his nose at me in relation to Rick Santorum's response to the gay soldier's question last night during the debate.

His subject line read: "You hang with a classy crowd"
Here was my immediate response to him.

"If that is truly how you're perceiving and assessing that moment, ( and I saw it live when it happened ) then I don't believe you'll ever "get it" and see BEYOND your somewhat superficial progressive view you openly display.

For some reason liberal progressives always seem to thjink that THEIR view is the more ELEVATED, the more PROGRESSIVE, the ONLY acceptable moral high-ground, and the BEST politically correct approach for EVERYONE.

My observations of Progressives always tell me the same thing:
Progressives = our ideas are SUPERIOR.
 
I've said the following before, but it sure does ring true in terms of the differences between conservatives and liberal progressives.

If a conservative is a non-smoker, he doesn't smoke. He allows others to make their own choice. 
If a liberal progressive is a non-smoker, he wants smoking banned for everyone.
 
It's the misplaced belief that WE( "WE" meaning liberal progressives ), KNOW what's BEST for EVERYONE.

The point: Foisting HOW YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE onto EVERYONE ELSE isn't acceptable and very pretentious.

Progressives seem to do that without realizing the superficiality of their position and their thinking.

26 posted on 09/23/2011 10:20:46 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: trumandogz

Agree, Santorum completely booted the question.

Obviously he doesn’t have the spine to say “Gays in the military is bad policy and should be repealed”. His answer tells you that he considers homosexuality to be just another type of “Sex” and thus he gave the safe, politically correct answer that all sex has no place. Pathetic.


27 posted on 09/23/2011 10:21:19 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: jpsb
Some have been "programmed" by society to think that "as long as it doesn't hurt me, personally, it's ok". And they don't see beyond that. The problem is that it DOES hurt society. They simply don't see immorality as a problem.

Agenda - Grinding America Down Documentary

28 posted on 09/23/2011 10:21:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: papertyger

agree.


29 posted on 09/23/2011 10:23:16 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Did they really Boo a member of the American Military who served in Iraq?

If so, that is low class.


30 posted on 09/23/2011 10:23:52 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: lbryce

first they’re frigging Dems who were the log cabins, secondly say sorry for what.

That he thinks men poking another man where the crap comes out and doing unnatural things to each other while getting more diseases is not wrong.
OR
Women wearing strap ons because they went to pretend they’re a man in sex
OR
EVEN a man dressing as a woman thinking they are lesbians

No it is high time that the GOP get rid of these lunatics and mentally ill people once and for all.

To think years ago I had no problem with homosexuals as they said and told us all repeatedly that they wanted to keep their lives private and now they are asking for special laws, dancing in the street telling everyone what turns them on.
Then they wonder why more and more are getting pissed off with these idiots.


31 posted on 09/23/2011 10:26:34 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: lbryce

I would say for them to shove that apology up their a$$e$ but they would like it!

LLS


32 posted on 09/23/2011 10:28:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: Never on my watch

he won’t get the homo vote, ah diddums and yet when the voters vote on the homo agenda they always say no.

now which one is the winner, ah yes not defending the homosexual agenda.


33 posted on 09/23/2011 10:28:50 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: trisham
Why don’t you tell me what you think about it?
 
What are you talking about?
 
Upthread you said "this" is outrageous. I asked you (twice) what is outrageous?
 
Then I gave a few different suppositions and you then asked "Why don’t you tell me what you think about it?"?
 
 Am I able to read your mind?
 
Anyway - this is what I think: The crowd was right to boo that gay soldier. Darkwolf and Retired Greyhound and others are WRONG to support his service in the military. Just plain wrong.
 
Gays should not serve. They should be screened out. They should be bood when they expose their perversions to the world.


35 posted on 09/23/2011 10:29:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: trumandogz

I think they booed a homosexual who happens to be a soldier, not a soldier who happens to be a homosexual.


36 posted on 09/23/2011 10:31:41 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: trumandogz

Low class, huh?

So. You SUPPORT gays serving in the military.

Got it. You liberal.


37 posted on 09/23/2011 10:31:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: manc

Rick Santorum had best be prepared for random glitter attacks.

“The love that dare not speak its name has become the love that will not shut up!”


38 posted on 09/23/2011 10:31:55 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: rockinqsranch
Thats why the GOP needs to present their positions in the macro, from the top down and in the most common denominator, not the bottom up.

The right cannot compete without providing a context for their positions - if the issues are framed as 'the GOP wants to throw PFC Steve out of the military because of who he loves' we'll lose every time.

IMO Santorum's answer was as good as he could've given.

39 posted on 09/23/2011 10:34:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Retired Greyhound

Why should a man who makes being gay more important than being a GI be thanked for his service?

Is he there to serve his country, or is he there to undermine his country’s ability to field a coherent fighting unit?

I have no gratitude for gay soldiers. I have enormous gratitude for soldiers. If, somehow, I have discovered they are somehow gay, then my view on it is that they are there to degrade the effectiveness of the military, not enhance it.

I feel the same way about women in the military in front line units as well. Everyone forgets about how hard it is to be an Army wife. It’s harder when you know your man is serving alongside other women in a place with not very much to do.

I used to marvel at the collection of process servers lined up at the pier when we would pull in from a six month deployment. Allowing women to serve in forward areas was a giant “F.U.” to the average military family.

Now, gays in the CIA? Can’t have enough of them. They make wonderful operatives, and they serve their country well in that capacity. Some very brave and resourceful heroes of the gay persuasion have given their lives for a country that has done pretty well by them. Better than most, if not all, others.


40 posted on 09/23/2011 10:34:26 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: bigbob
All he had to do was say, "I support the policy enacted by the Clinton administration which has been in place for almost two decades". End of story.

But no, he needed to tap dance by saying "sex has no place in the military".

What this tells me is that he's playing for the general election "undecideds" who are likely to be influenced by the MSM.

All the candidates will play for this vote sooner or later.

41 posted on 09/23/2011 10:34:41 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t pay attention to the stink bomb thrower.


42 posted on 09/23/2011 10:35:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: trisham; Tribune7

Fortunately for practising homosexuals, there is never any blood splattered around on a battlefied and so the environment is not made all that more dangerous by what is in essence an extension of germ warfare.

Anyone who thinks this needs a /sarc tag needs to ask themselves if they would want Doc treating their open wound after just treating Chrissy’s open wound.)


43 posted on 09/23/2011 10:35:51 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Their bible calls for either our conversion or our death - how and when has that changed ?)
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To: lbryce
A true conservative needs no "adjective" in front of their name.

Offer no apology Rick Santorum.

44 posted on 09/23/2011 10:37:22 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: lbryce

I have never felt the need in my life to go up to someone and say “Hi I’m leenie312 and my sexual orientation is usually on the bottom” No one’s business but my own and the hubs. Hate it that it is pushed into our faces...Don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t care...keep it to yourself. The bedroom door needs to be shut.


45 posted on 09/23/2011 10:37:24 AM PDT by leenie312
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t know what your problem with me is, but then again, I don’t care.


46 posted on 09/23/2011 10:38:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

So you don’t thank women for their military service?


47 posted on 09/23/2011 10:38:49 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: skeeter; trumandogz; Retired Greyhound

Don’t pay attention to the stink bomb thrower.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good advice. But it pisses me off that anyone thnks a gay soldier who served in the military deserves respect.

Piss on them.


48 posted on 09/23/2011 10:39:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: lbryce


Santorum is not a favorite to win just yet, though his performance in the debate yesterday was exemplary. If he caves and apologizes, he's done. If he uses the press properly and refuses to cave, he gains. He's not my favorite, but I certainly could be convinced to vote for him (unlike some of the other candidates).


49 posted on 09/23/2011 10:40:21 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

I am opposed to the repeal of DADT.

However, I would never Boo an a member of the American Military.


50 posted on 09/23/2011 10:40:28 AM PDT by trumandogz
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