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Mark Steyn scolds Perry on illegal immigration: 'Cheap racism demagoguery'
Daily Caller ^ | September 23, 2011 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 09/23/2011 11:11:24 AM PDT by Rufus2007

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This could be a problem for Perry. Not only does he sound like Bush on immigration, he sort of acts like him as well.
1 posted on 09/23/2011 11:11:29 AM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

Screw Jeff Poor and the Daily Caller....


2 posted on 09/23/2011 11:15:52 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Rufus2007

Bush called us Vigilantes.

McCain called us lazy.

Perry calls us heartless racists.

I am not sure yet who I will support in these primaries but I now know who I will NOT support.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 11:15:59 AM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; George W. Bush' retarded cousin.)
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To: Rufus2007
The GOP field is hard at work clearing themselves out and making room for the arrival of Gov Palin.
4 posted on 09/23/2011 11:19:10 AM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: Rufus2007
Yes, I heard Steyn on Rush today. Good for him! We, the law-abiding citizens and taxpayers of the good ole USA don't have a heart? LOL! How about the criminals who enter our country illegally, where are their selfish and greedy hearts at? DON'T REWARD THEM!!
5 posted on 09/23/2011 11:20:05 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: Grunthor

Poor you. All those names? Poor you. How’s do you function in political warfare, with all those delicate sensibilities? You, sir, have left your fox hole.


6 posted on 09/23/2011 11:21:00 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: Rufus2007

While I have liked PERRY to this point I find his stance on Illegal Immigration more and more troubling. In state tuition for children of illegals? No! His reasoning was absurd!. Don’t build a fence? - WRONG ANSWER! He says if you are against his positions on this you have no heart. I can get that crap from the Democrats. It’s not a matter of not having a heart. It’s a matter of disincentivising illegals from wanting to come or stay here. If you keep giving them benefits it just gives them a reason to stay. And you start them on the “path” to democrat voting rolls!

Make it so uncomfortable that they will leave on their own!

If they want to come in LEGALLY, then I welcome them!

I fear that if we lose Texas we will never win another election and Perry’s approach WILL cause us to eventually lose Texas!


7 posted on 09/23/2011 11:22:01 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: Rufus2007
This could be a problem for Perry. Not only does he sound like Bush on immigration, he sort of acts like him as well.

I loved GWB but hated his stance on illegals, maybe it's because Texas has almost 10 million Latinos, probably half of whom are illegal.

Maybe Texas is so inundated with illegals that trying to deport them would result in another Alamo {or Waco} with the Mexicans being on the inside.

Well the ATF should be selling them weapons, just to make it a fair last stand.

8 posted on 09/23/2011 11:23:11 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: Rufus2007

Waiting for Sarah.


9 posted on 09/23/2011 11:24:41 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Rufus2007
THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY
10 posted on 09/23/2011 11:25:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JPG

“The GOP field is hard at work clearing themselves out and making room for the arrival of Gov Palin.”

Looks like you might be correct. These bozos in the debates seem to be making an effort to look bad to conservatives. Could Perry have said anything more stupid? Maybe it’s all part of A Bigger Plan.


11 posted on 09/23/2011 11:26:08 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: RitaOK

“How’s do you function in political warfare, with all those delicate sensibilities?”

How do I fuction in political warfare? Better than usual when the man that wants to be the general is not SHOOTING ME IN THE DAMNED BACK!


12 posted on 09/23/2011 11:26:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; George W. Bush' retarded cousin.)
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To: Rufus2007
Actually he is more to the left of Jorge on illegals, at least Jorge gave lip service to building a fence, and then threw away billions on delays. Perry's plan, is a bogus protect the border, while rewarding law breakers and paying their medical bills.
13 posted on 09/23/2011 11:26:13 AM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: onedoug

Gad. You will be a corpse before that wait is over.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 11:26:17 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: Rufus2007
Actually he is more to the left of Jorge on illegals, at least Jorge gave lip service to building a fence, and then threw away billions on delays. Perry's plan, is a bogus protect the border, while rewarding law breakers and paying their medical bills.
15 posted on 09/23/2011 11:26:30 AM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

CW,

I repect you. You don’t attack people even when they richly deserve it. Even you have to admit that Perry severely damaged himself last night when he (again) publicly attacked a large portion of the electorate.


16 posted on 09/23/2011 11:28:23 AM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; George W. Bush' retarded cousin.)
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To: Grunthor

I don’t support Perry or Romney

I want a full fledged conservative, strong on the military, immigration the homosexual agenda, stop the social policies of the military and over turn zero’s don’t ask, I want fiscal and social conservatism not some half baked cop outs who say when the going gets tough.
It is states rights, no it isn’t when it is the queers.
Or a man who will say and do anything to get elected because he did not win 3 years ago

Perry had me until I heard more about him.

He even looks like Bush with his smirks when he is up on the podium


17 posted on 09/23/2011 11:28:49 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: Rufus2007

Immigration, illegal immigration, is probably the most important issue facing us today. It determines who is going to be the voting majority in 10 years.

I can not vote for a Perry who wants us to pay for illegals, and who will not build a wall.

Michelle Bachmann again said she would not give fee education to illegals, she would deport illegals, she would build a wall the entire length of the border,and she would hire enough border agents to patrol the wall.


18 posted on 09/23/2011 11:28:49 AM PDT by CGalen
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To: Rufus2007

19 posted on 09/23/2011 11:29:21 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: JPG
...making room for the arrival of Gov Palin.

We have seen what happens when a candidate rolls in late to the party and misses the extra practice of 4 debates. They bomb because of that deficit. What makes us think Palin would do any better after missing 6 debates. I have a feeling that she is going to look wooden, rehearsed and out of sorts. Even Huntsman is looking coherent and smooth after a few goes at this. He still has bad ideas, but he is more confident in his stupidity.

20 posted on 09/23/2011 11:29:21 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: manc

I think Cain needs to be our guy.


21 posted on 09/23/2011 11:30:03 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: onedoug

waiting for Sarah or Christie here in north east FL

Rick S I like but he was treated unfairly by this pro queer cross dressing media and
Michelle is prone to slip ups as for the others they can all piss off.


22 posted on 09/23/2011 11:30:37 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: Grunthor

>>> “ How do I fuction in political warfare? Better than usual when the man that wants to be the general is not SHOOTING ME IN THE DAMNED BACK! “ <<<

Poor you. “CORPMAN!” “CORPMAN!” “WE HAVE ONE DOWN!” “He took a splinter! “


23 posted on 09/23/2011 11:31:00 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: Castigar
You, like so many of us in flyover country, get it. The elites do not.

The Perrybots tell me that if I don't support their boy, then we get Mitt Romney by default.

So what? Romney is basically Perry without quite the affection for illegal aliens. Perry is basically Romney without quite the affection for socialized medicine.

There are better choices available. I'm not playing that game.

24 posted on 09/23/2011 11:31:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Rufus2007

Steyn is right. Rick Perry slit his wrists on TV last night with his “heartless” response. He sounded exactly like a liberal Democrat. And I’ve supported the guy up till now. But no way do I support a closet amnesty supporter, and that’s what Perry looks more and more to be. I’m depressed now, because on the one hand, we have an un-conservative technocrat in Mitt Romney, and a pro-illegal immigration man in Perry (yes, supporting state-subsidized tuition for illegals make you a supporter of illegal immigration. The truth hurts).


25 posted on 09/23/2011 11:31:51 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Rufus2007

Perry is so wrong on this issue. I no longer support him because supporting illegals cost “we the people” over 4 billion dollars a year and they take jobs that Americans should have.


26 posted on 09/23/2011 11:33:35 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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“This could be a problem for Perry. Not only does he sound like Bush on immigration, he sort of acts like him as well.”

This IS a problem for Perry. “Stay oud of da Bushes!” We don’t need another compasionate conservative. How the hell can you justify illegal immigration when we have unemployment/underemployment over 20%. I will bet that Perry has a gaggle of illegals working on his property.


27 posted on 09/23/2011 11:33:55 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: manc

Texas politicians have not been conservative Presidents.

Not the Bushes, not LBJ, ................


28 posted on 09/23/2011 11:34:10 AM PDT by CGalen
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To: Rufus2007

I guess I must have a heart because I’m heartsick over the state of the GOP field.


29 posted on 09/23/2011 11:34:24 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: JPG
I have not followed Palin's speeches that closely. Has she been forceful against current immigration policies and our failure to enforce existing immigration laws?
30 posted on 09/23/2011 11:35:14 AM PDT by SMARTY ("If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. " Winston Churchill)
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To: RitaOK

Yeah I think Perry needs the medic, he shot himself in the foot last night and you damned well know it.


31 posted on 09/23/2011 11:35:49 AM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; George W. Bush' retarded cousin.)
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To: USS Alaska

TX is well on it’s way to becoming the next CA thanks to “compassion” like G W and Katie Perry.


32 posted on 09/23/2011 11:36:40 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Rufus2007

I liked Mark Steyn’s comment that Legal Immigrants have all sorts of hoops they have to jump through and his whole rant on how illegals “opt out of” immigration law.

Mark Steyn is 100% correct! He is a legal immigrant and he knows all the crap legals have to put up with.


33 posted on 09/23/2011 11:36:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MayflowerMadam

>>> These bozos in the debates seem to be making an effort to look bad to conservatives.

That’s because none (I should say, Perry and Romney) are conservatives. They all say they represent true conservatives, but they only slept in the Holiday Inn Express.

And no doubt about it, Perry did not help himself. Forget about him saying himself not a good debator, it is his thinking which led to his actions that is troubling.


34 posted on 09/23/2011 11:37:12 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: icwhatudo

LOL. I admire much about the man W. One thing he seemed to always get right was with his use of nicknames (think TurdBlossom). It’s been reported here that his nickname for Gov. Perry is Dumba**.


35 posted on 09/23/2011 11:37:46 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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The GOP field is hard at work clearing themselves out and making room for the arrival of Gov Palin.

Unlikely. Most Republicans INTEND to be Democrats lite.

36 posted on 09/23/2011 11:37:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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I heard Steyn and he could be right. I was backing Perry wholeheartedly until I heard him speak of his immigration policy at the Tampa debate. Gave me pause. That said, I still think he's the best of this bunch....albeit, he's starting to sound like a liberal on immigration.
37 posted on 09/23/2011 11:38:56 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Rufus2007

Is “children of illegal immigrants” the proper classification here? As I recall, I thought an Indiana law passed and effective this year allowed no in-state tuition for illegals, period. I wondered then why if someone identified themselves as such and lost in-state tuition, why the next step wasn’t deportation?


38 posted on 09/23/2011 11:39:40 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: Servant of the Cross
I have no doubt that is Perry's true nickname. It sure fits the bill.
39 posted on 09/23/2011 11:39:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: Rufus2007
This could be a problem for Perry. Not only does he sound like Bush on immigration, he sort of acts like him as well.

Sort of??

Ya turn off the television and you'd swear it was Bush speaking or trying to speak.

Then look at his animated, facial expression, and demeanor...It's pathetic.

The last thing America needs is more of this.

The man can't even repeat a rehearsed, canned message.

This guy will *never* be elected president.

America is not going to elect another person who openly aids and abets a violent invasion of our country.

Not going to happen.

40 posted on 09/23/2011 11:40:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DesScorp
Steyn is right. Rick Perry slit his wrists on TV last night with his “heartless” response.

Boneheaded beyond measure. Perry's great skill in his political career has been to demagogue nearly flawlessly WITH the current of the electorate. I can't imagine what he was thinking.

41 posted on 09/23/2011 11:40:14 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: Rufus2007

The way of the left is to transform policy difference of opinion into moral failings. Sad to see Governor Perry go that route.


42 posted on 09/23/2011 11:40:14 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: GlockThe Vote

see I did the same as most I forgot about Cain, he is against affirmative action, illegals homosexuality and knows how to run a business plus he stands for the constitution.
He is not PC unlike the north east turd.

The north east might be more socially liberal but the north east is not all of America and it is high time for them up there to understand this and that we do not agree with their ways or views in NY City, Boston or Chicago


43 posted on 09/23/2011 11:40:32 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: Sir Napsalot
none (I should say, Perry and Romney) are conservatives.

All too true. Most Republicans are NOT conservatives especially the Republican "leadership" to use the word advisedly.

44 posted on 09/23/2011 11:41:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Rufus2007

Mark Steyn is right. Rick Perry is irritating and guilt tripping and duplicitous on illegal alien college tuition. Even Mitt Romney (wimp that he is) was coming down harder on protecting our Mexican border. I still support Rick Perry but his attitude that Texas knows how to deal with their unique border....this is utter BS and pure pandering for the Texas Hispanic vote which he has done many times

Perry better snap out of it on immigration or he might be history soon. That BS may fly in Texas but not in Republican primaries


45 posted on 09/23/2011 11:41:45 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

[ TX is well on it’s way to becoming the next CA thanks to “compassion” like G W and Katie Perry. ]

In Perry’s I did not feel a lot of “Compassion” for the other residents of the other 49 / 57 states who wanted to go to school. Nor did I feel much compassion for immigrants who came here legally.

Didn’t feel much compassion for the citizens who were unemployed due to economic damage done by illegals and companies/business owners who hire illegals.

I did like Newts answer to the E-Verify question. I think that we do need an E-verify requirement as both insurance to companies who want to make sure their employees are legal and to stop hiring of illegals by companies who aren’t doing so.

I believe in Herman Cain’s answer of not wanting to reward bad behavior.


46 posted on 09/23/2011 11:43:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rufus2007

Where’s Perry’s heart for the AMERICAN CITIZENS footing the bills for all this coddling of illegals? Why on earth does any AMERICAN CITIZEN think it’s okay to PAY Mexicans for breaking the law???


47 posted on 09/23/2011 11:43:30 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: Grunthor

[ Yeah I think Perry needs the medic, he shot himself in the foot last night and you damned well know it. ]

Not even Doctor Ron Paul could save Rick Perry by being the “Ugly girl standing next to the mediocre girl”.


48 posted on 09/23/2011 11:44:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Grunthor
Bush called us Vigilantes.

McCain called us lazy.

Perry calls us heartless racists.

I am not sure yet who I will support in these primaries but I now know who I will NOT support.

Me, too

It's curious how Republicans don't seem to realize that this will be the last chance for them to hold office once the illegal aliens start voting in large numbers.

49 posted on 09/23/2011 11:48:01 AM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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...I wondered then why if someone identified themselves as such and lost in-state tuition, why the next step wasn’t deportation?

I've been wondering that same thing, for years.

50 posted on 09/23/2011 11:49:29 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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