Skip to comments.Editorial: Memo To GOP: The Foe Is Obama, Not Perry (Excellent Point!!!)
Posted on 09/23/2011 4:42:52 PM PDT by Kaslin
Politics: Despite the "gotcha" sniping at Thursday's debate, Republicans need to keep their eyes on the prize. The target for 2012 is not Santorum, Cain, Bachmann, Romney or Perry. It's the current White House occupant.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry must have felt a bit like Gen. Custer at Little Big Horn at the Orlando debate, a made-for-TV contrivance in which those who have a real chance to be president must take pokes and jabs from those who don't.
We appreciate this may be a necessary evil in which front-runners without stamina the Ed Muskies and Rudy Giulianis, for example are weeded out.
Still, we must understand that while the goal is the nomination, the prize is the White House. Lost in the brouhaha over tuition for illegal aliens and mandated vaccines is the fact we simply can't afford four more years of President Obama.
Perry has given awkward responses. How can he debate the president, the whispers ask. Sound-bite debates in which you thrust and parry (no pun intended) with eight other candidates, as well as the pundits, are one thing. Comparing your job-creating pro-growth record in a booming state to the record of the arguably worst president in American history is something else.
Those former and nongovernors without a 1,200-mile border with Mexico may criticize, and perhaps justifiably, Perry's embrace of a college tuition break for illegal aliens. We've opposed it too in the past.
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“Texas Gov. Rick Perry must have felt a bit like Gen. Custer at Little Big Horn at the Orlando debate, a made-for-TV contrivance in which those who have a real chance to be president must take pokes and jabs from those who don’t. “
Excellent points indeed. The candidates who have ZERO chance of either winning the nomination or beating Obama, are doing Obama’s work for him, by trying to make mincemeat of the leading candidate. And those who are cheering the attacks on Perry are doing the same: helping to knock out the only candidate who can win and beat Obama.
Do conservatives want Romney — he is going to get the nomination, if not Perry.
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“Do conservatives want Romney he is going to get the nomination, if not Perry.”
If the next president of the United States is not Sarah Palin, the United States will not survive.
That’s not alarmism, just a recognition that it’s mate in two, and the only course of action is to kick the board over.
I wish tehre was a way to ban 'meme' from the Freeper lexicon.
Note to Perrybots. Perry, not the GOP, is making Perry the enemy. Don’t blame everyone else for Perry’s stupidity at the debate.
Sure...after they've spent 6 months or more doing obama's dirty work and giving the dems all the ammo they might need in the general. We don't need a nominee who's been lied about, defamed and stabbed in the back by other republicans going into the general.
Anyone who can't stand on that stage and promote themselves and differentiate themselves from obama is unworthy of consideration. That leaves Newt, Cain and Perry.
Note to Perrybots. Perry, not the GOP, is making Perry the enemy. Dont blame everyone else for Perrys stupidity at the debate.
No he's not. He's absolutely correct! The palinistas and paulistas attack Perry with lies, half truths and innuendo every stinking day. All they care about is that Perry was gaining steam and he's not palin or paul! Period. That's what's disgusting!
Oh grow up! We're electing the President of the United States next year...not the president of some lame ass debating society!
That's true if you build the stupid corragated metal fences on the cheap that they are using now. Since you can't see through them, they just allow illegals to hide behind them until the BP passes. But if you build them right, they are quite effective. The Israeli fence along the Judea-Samaria border has been just about 100% effective in stopping terrorists from getting across.
I will concede that there may be some places where geography won't allow a fence (big canyons and such), but surely most of it could be.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as the saying goes. Stop trying to tar me with your own imaginary insults.
I am not a big R Republican and haven't been for a dozen or more years. I am registered without party affiliation. I consider myself an Constitutional Conservative with some, mind you only a few, libertarian leanings.
Been around FR for a while now and normally I only post very sparingly with those folks that I agree with. I guess I got carried away listening and reading criticisms from folks I "assumed" knew very little of the lay of the land and state politics down here.
I appreciate your measured and polite posts to me and know we have much more in common than we don't.
I do hope the Republicans do get it figured out and nominate the best possible candidate to defeat the current piece of junk in the WH.
Come on down to Cameron County/Brownsville will see what has been built so far. It is a monstrous and costly tribute to the insanity of Washington. Point is that the “wall/fence” has been started, but stopped as Obama cut the funds for it.
So you think you know more about the border than these people from MN, IN, IL, etc.
I believe you... but you'll never convince them!
And what many of the folks seem to think is the State of Texas' responsibility.
They don't even understand that!...that it isn't the state's responsibility but the fed's.
The problem is Perry assumes that people understand our border and what we are facing here. He needs to explain it.
First of all, there is a BIG ASS RIVER that runs our border that includes several lakes, if we fence it we are giving up US territorial waters. We have people here that make a living off those waters.
Secondly, a fence wont stop them, these people are running for their lives, not coming here for jobs or "in-state tuition". We have got to end the civil war in Mexico if we want to stop the flood of illegals coming across the border.
Thirdly, these illegals are not going to UT, SMU, UNT, ect, they are going to JR. Colleges where it's $900 a semester and they are saving $151 a semester. I really don't believe there are a lot of people coming from North Dakota to go to Dallas County Community College and if they are the extra $151 is the least of their problems.
For those who are going to the Universities, why would we not want them to stay here where it's cheaper? That way when they get their degrees and citizenship they will most likely stay in Texas and their taxes will pay us back for their tuition discount. Additionally, there is nothing we can do about them being here, the government wont let us throw them out, they wont let us deny them services and if we try to do anything to them Obama will sue us and Hillary will report us to the UN. Our only choice is to educate them and turn them into tax payers. They are here, there is nothing we can do about it and being renters, they are paying the property taxes that qualifies them for the in-state tuition.
As was pointed out by someone else on this thread the concept of a ‘wall’ doesn’t necessarily mean bricks and mortar or steel sheeting per se. And also pointed out by someone else here Perry and company were largely responsible for the failure of what was erected in your neck of the woods. But in any case the invasion must be stopped before we all sink under the burgeoning weight of the illegal invasion.
What about Big Bend, Amistad or Falcon Lakes and mountains.
There are humongous dams, marinas and multi million dollar resorts. Some are over the water.
Americans/Texans canoe, fish, hike and recreation on many parts of the Rio Grande.
Perry can fill out a suit, its his brain that is missing.
Time to take responsibility.
Perry has ruined himself. Nobody else is to blame.
Reread the statement I replied to. Paul and his bots were only a small part of the accusations. It was meant for any FReeper whatsoever who doesn’t bow at Perry’s feet. We were called liberals and liars. I stand behind what I said that FReeper is disgusting.
Thanks for your responses. And yes, I suspect we have a lot in common in our beliefs. America first! Americans first! And that includes all who have been born here or who have immigrated and become Americans...legally. We are one family.
You heartless racist!
Perry should apply for this job. Although he may be underqualified.
One can only do what one can only do, eh? I actually play golf on an 18 hole course that is in the “no man’s land”.
Gov. Perry can take the heat from now on. It's Perry's fault!
Think that your boy just got his azz kicked in Florida. You need to grow up and smell the coffee. It’s not about debate style.....it’s about giving tuition discounts to illegals among other things. Perry is toast.
Good point and thank you for saying what you did.
If Perry gets elected the foe will be Perry. He is already showing his true red white and green colors.
Imagine finding dead bodies on your property and maybe wondering if the next one will be you or your loved ones. This is why—though I live far away in the northeast—I am very passionate about stopping illegal immigration and I will not tolerate any double-talking, illegal alien enablers like Rick Perry. Here comes the hook Rick—bye bye.
Aren’t there other candidates besides Rick and Mitt? It’s so funny how Perry supporters keep using Romney as the boogie man as if you will be stuck with Romney if you do not vote for Perry. I hear it so much that it is begining to sound like talking points. Perry supporters are sounding like cheerleaders. You all have your cheers memorized—rah, rah, sis boom ba— go Perry!
We know what Obama’s flaws are, now we need to know what the Republicans’ flaws are.
Heck, come January 2013, they’ll be screaming that the elections were stolen because she didn’t yet declare... and that without her, no elections could’ve happened.
How does an inanimate object known as a fence catch anything or anyone?
I will not vote for Romney. If he is our candidate, I will not vote in the presidential election.
Now, considering that you’re doing everything posible to get rid of his only other significant opposition...
I don’t like Romney.
But if you’re saying that you’d only vote for a Republican if Perry is the nominee, then screw you: you’re the one aiding and abetting Imam Obama, not me. The murdered babies and destroyed economy will be on your head.
I could go for that. I don’t think it’ll happen, though.
I'll vote for any Republican on the ballot come November, as long as he/she's not Romney(or Ron Paul).
It sounds like *you* are admitting that the only other viable candidate is Perry. Yet you're working SO hard to get rid of him. Why are you working so hard to get rid of the opposition to Romney, who you've said you don't like?
What do you do with all those straw men you construct?
Yeah! We should just hold a coronation ceremony for whichever moderate the GOP establishment decides is going to get the nomination.
Your reply to me barely seems relevant to my post. I didn’t say the choice was between Perry and Romney, but I did point out that neither is going anywhere. I replied to a poster announcing who he had “eliminated”. No one gets eliminated. Some rise and some fall. But in the end, we will each face a choice from a ballot with 2 or 3 frontrunners. Anyone dissatisfied with Romney and Perry should be seeking to raise someone else to frontrunner status and not just tear down those two.
Your post #111 is excellent.
You have out done your self in stupid this time, hats off.