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Judge's blistering rebuke of two federal scientists stokes fires under Obama administration
Contra Costa Times ^ | 9/23/11 | Mike Taugher

Posted on 09/23/2011 6:34:55 PM PDT by SmithL

With a House Republican loading political ammunition in a national fight over government science, Interior Department officials said Friday they would stand by the work of two scientists whose integrity was attacked recently by a federal judge overseeing the Delta water wars.

U.S. District Judge Oliver Wanger, in a lengthy and strongly worded assault Sept. 16, said the two scientists deliberately misled him when they urged him not to weaken new rules meant to help imperiled Delta smelt in wet years like this one.

He called one scientist, Jennifer Norris of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, a "zealot" who is unwilling to change her opinion even in the face of changing facts and said she and Fred Feyrer of the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation had acted in bad faith.

He was critical because he said a fish and water issue originally presented as a lost opportunity came back in a new hearing as an extinction issue.

"The only inference that the court can draw is that it is an attempt to mislead and to deceive the court into accepting what is not only not the best available science, it's not science. There is speculation," according to a preliminary transcript of his comments.

The comments, made just weeks before Wanger is scheduled to retire from the bench to return to private law practice, have led to at least one call for congressional hearings and could provide ammunition to opponents of the Obama administration's environmental policies.

(Excerpt) Read more at contracostatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; deltasmelt; interiordepartment; junkscience; klamathbasin; pseudoscience; smelt; waterwars

1 posted on 09/23/2011 6:35:03 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Of course they will. And sooner or later the libtard “scientists” will win.

Until CW II.

We’ll be waiting for all of them.


2 posted on 09/23/2011 6:36:29 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks SmithL.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 6:46:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Da Coyote

Eventually, when the citizens of this country wake up and realize that they have been fed a pack of lies from junk science, I hope that those responsible are singled out. For special treatment.

Four dollar gasoline sucks.


4 posted on 09/23/2011 6:48:54 PM PDT by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: Da Coyote

The judge must be one of those “stupid’ anti-science people. He’s seen a lot and like anyone who has, he knows how leftards lie, cheat and steal for the cause.


5 posted on 09/23/2011 6:50:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SmithL

>>ammunition...fight...attacked...wars...assault...

Wow. This kind of divisive, violent speech makes my gun want to shoot people. Where is the civility?!?! </sarc>


6 posted on 09/23/2011 6:52:27 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: SmithL
Oh my gosh. Government scientists fudging facts to get the answer they wanted to begin with. Who would've thought that? I hope the climate researchers don't try to do-—oh wait....
7 posted on 09/23/2011 6:57:28 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: SmithL

“U.S. Bureau of Reclamation”

What the hell is that? What do they do? Anyone? Bueller?


8 posted on 09/23/2011 7:03:53 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: SmithL
. . . the two scientists deliberately misled [to keep in effect the] new rules meant to help imperiled Delta smelt. Government scientist "zealots" and their agency all acted in bad faith. It ain't sucker fish this time but it sounds like the same as what almost became Lexington Green West.

Sept. 11th, 2001 prevented it. That time.

This was July, 2001. It had gone on for months. Some farmers made an offer to the feds to "resolve a crisis that has roiled the Klamath Basin since the Bureau of Reclamation shut off irrigation water to the region to protect endangered fish. The offer follows a week of civil disobedience by angry farmers and their supporters who forced open the headgates at Upper Klamath Lake in Oregon three times to release water into the basin's canal system."

9 posted on 09/23/2011 7:08:54 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SmithL

What? Scientists are expected to actually give a coherent account of their science? Woe are we! Another priesthood bites the dust.


10 posted on 09/23/2011 7:13:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Batman11; Jeff Head
“U.S. Bureau of Reclamation”

What the hell is that? What do they do? Anyone? Bueller?

Pinging someone who is likely to know very well.

11 posted on 09/23/2011 7:16:21 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

There unfortunately are many low-integrity, sell-out scientists who are both zealots and crooks. They sell their souls for grant money and position. Pox on them.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 7:42:31 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Batman11

Re the US Bureau of Reclamation: what do they do?

They either reclaim clams (I have no idea how that happens), or they re-clam clamming areas with new baby clams (i.e. seed an area with new clams).

On the other hand, perhaps I should just ‘clam’ up on the subject.

Why are my hands clammy?

What do you get if you mix a clam with a tomato? Clamato. You can drink it, not me.


13 posted on 09/23/2011 8:07:27 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SmithL

Bless Judge Wanger. He is the only west coast judge I know of who recognizes that all the critter laws have to have a balanced copnsideration with how they affect the humn environment - economic and social impacts.

I am totally bummed that he is retiring


14 posted on 09/23/2011 8:17:26 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: SmithL
Bless Judge Wanger. He is the only west coast judge I know of who recognizes that all the critter laws have to have a balanced copnsideration with how they affect the human environment - economic and social impacts.

I am totally bummed that he is retiring

15 posted on 09/23/2011 8:18:05 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: tubebender; Grampa Dave; jazusamo; girlangler; Flycatcher; SierraWasp; LucyT

U.S. District Judge Oliver Wanger... said the two scientists deliberately misled him when they urged him not to weaken new rules meant to help imperiled Delta smelt in wet years like this one.

He called one scientist, Jennifer Norris of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, a “zealot” who is unwilling to change her opinion even in the face of changing facts and said she and Fred Feyrer of the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation had acted in bad faith.


16 posted on 09/23/2011 8:34:31 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: aposiopetic; Batman11; All
The US Bureau of Reclamation is the agency that has built and maintains large dams in the western United States. Their original goal was simple, to build dams that stored and provided irrigation water for cultivating otherwise nonarrable lands in the west that were too dry.

This expanded to make electricity...which is the best renewable energy resource we have.

For decades and decades they have done this.

But, the environmentalists have been doing two things over the last 30 years.:

1) Fighting them to try and get dams renmoved in the name of the endagnered species act. This hurts us agriculturally and energy wise.

and, 2) Infiltrating the Bureau to get their own scientist within the bureau to back up their desires with scientific "findings."

Sadly, they have been successful.

I fought the Bureau and the Federal government in 2001 before 911 at Klamath Oregon where bad science and viral environmentalist got a whole basin shut down by denying farmers irrigation water that they had rights to.

The Commissioner of the Bureau, Mr. Keyes (God rest his soul), favored the Farmers and was appointed by Bush and he took over as this was happening. After he came on board the junk science was thrown out and the crisis was ultimately resolved.

In 2003 I went to work for the Bureau working with digital technology to help dams communicate and employ Supervisory Data and Data Acquisition (SCADA) systems and communications and security systems for the dams. For the last 8 years I have seen how the Bush administration pushed back on those two agendas in the Bureau with some success...though Clinton had riddled all Federal agencies with career liberals. Now, Obama has doubled down on it all...and is producing even worse conditions like that in the San Joaquin.

This is one agency whose mission is one that actually allows it to make something productive and pay for itself. Now we have administrators, biologists and scientists working against those goals. But we fight it internally, and I continue to try and communicate externally wherever we cabn.

Anyhow, hope that helps. Dams like Hoover Dam, Grand Coulee, Arrowrock Dam, Anderson Dam, Palisades Dam and many, many more are operated and maintained by the US Bureau of Reclamation.

18 posted on 09/23/2011 8:44:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Hi Jeff, I hope you are well. Thanks for the information!


19 posted on 09/23/2011 9:26:35 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Jeff Head

Good to see your still kicking Jeff.
Being in with those greenie nuts on the job,
it is a wonder you haven’t went postal.

I still have the Klamath money raising
water bucket for I won the bid on for
Michigan here in the gun shop.

I’ve come to the conclusion the green movement
is at root of about all the ills in this country,
whether related to water and farming, manufacturing,
the lack of a growing energy independence; and
the phony shortages, high unemployment,
and rampant inflation.

Keep up the good fight.Ed Hubel


20 posted on 09/23/2011 9:30:49 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: SunkenCiv; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; SmithL; ...
Wow,...same kind of findings with the climate scientists...

Gives one hope that a judge might have something to say about CO2 being a pollutant!

21 posted on 09/23/2011 10:12:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SmithL

These two scumbags Norris and Feyrer are not scientists, they are corrupt political hacks.


22 posted on 09/23/2011 10:21:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wow,...same kind of findings with the climate scientists...

It is cronyism and it permeates everything. You really have not experienced it fully until you watch a well respected person stand up and flat out lie about you to a public audience. People that lack morals tend to gravitate toward the cronyism. So we are significantly outnumbered.

23 posted on 09/23/2011 10:38:17 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: SmithL

Lehman Brothers was heavily invested in Wind and Solar and was one of the reasons why it went under.


24 posted on 09/24/2011 12:49:09 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: cashless

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.

H. L. Mencken


25 posted on 09/24/2011 12:57:25 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ..
A judiciary rebuke of libtard junk science. Thanx for the ping SunkenCiv; & Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

26 posted on 09/24/2011 5:13:06 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks, Jeff, for that insight and for your work to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of this Republic.


27 posted on 09/24/2011 8:01:39 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: SmithL

It’s very unfortunate that the scientific community has produced so much poorly researched junk science about endangered species and especially about global warming. I have no doubt that ultimately the theory of global warming caused by CO2 will be proven completely wrong. These junk scientists have done great damage to legitimate environmental causes and will make it much more difficult to convince the public about real environmental threats in the future. Many scientists have displayed shockingly bad judgement by jumping on the global warming bandwagon for fun and profit even thought global warming theory is extremely shaky and is strongly contradicted by the earth’s temperature history (especially the decline in average temperatures over the last eight years). I suspect that industrial chemicals in the environment contribute to the epidemic of cancer in the western world, but now that scientists have lost so much credibility because of the global warming hoax, it’s going to be much more difficult to make the case for stronger regulation of certain industrial chemicals.


28 posted on 09/24/2011 8:01:50 AM PDT by socialism_stinX (At age 9 they thought he had a speech impediment, but he was just doing an impression of Dangerfield)
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To: SmithL
When are enviro weenies gonna wake up? It isn't as if we don't already know they do these things to get grant money from idiots.... that they are doing nothing other than feeding ignorance? How hypocritical is that? Its like listening to people who think the earth is flat, then going out and creating “science” which proves the stupid theories... It's insanity.
29 posted on 09/24/2011 8:59:22 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, it is so good to see you posting again!

The wider world needs to know about this, from the inside. Keep posting what you know! Or shoot, get it to someone here you trust and have them post it. Corruption hates the light of day... I will help draw the blinds aside if I can!


30 posted on 09/24/2011 9:12:34 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Gives one hope that a judge might have something to say about CO2 being a pollutant!"
In due time.
31 posted on 09/24/2011 4:20:38 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: steveshoveler

bookmark


32 posted on 09/25/2011 6:23:41 PM PDT by steveshoveler
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