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Is America Ready for a Christian President?
The American Thinker ^ | September 24, 2011 | Christopher Chantrill

Posted on 09/24/2011 2:18:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Leave it to a RINO. Now Gov. Mitt Romney is doing the Democrats' work for them by worrying that Rick Perry is too extreme to be electable.

That's not the way that Democrats talk about their candidates. They go straight for the guilt trip, and worry out loud, e.g., about whether America is ready for a black president.

......Given the power liberals have to define the cultural horizon, it is easy to miss the importance of today's enthusiastic Christianity. Liberals are taught in their secularist seminaries that God Is Dead, and so the usual journalistic trend-spotters don't write breathless articles in The New Yorker or The New York Times Magazine about the worldwide spread of enthusiastic Christianity. You need a different kind of cultural radar to make sense of the rising moral movement that Palin, Bachmann, and Perry represent. But modern history shows that moral movements are what it's all about.

......Our liberal friends instinctively know that something is wrong, even if, in the argot of their psychology, they are completely in denial. That is why they get so upset over "theocrats," "Christianists," and Tea Party "terrorists." They can feel a moral movement building against them, and they cannot bear to think of the next president of the United States coming out of that movement.

As Gandhi wrote, first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. Is America ready for a Christian president?

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: christianity; christianpolitics; corruption; morality; perry2012
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THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY
1 posted on 09/24/2011 2:19:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Perry's CPAC speech was GREAT -- he starts out slow, winds up and then hits it out of the park! ********* The LINK

Also, if anyone hasn't seen Perry's new ad it's HERE (almost 481,000 views)

2 posted on 09/24/2011 2:21:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They can feel a moral movement building against them, and they cannot bear to think of the next president of the United States coming out of that movement.

That's a great point. I've felt something similar to this, but that's the best articulation of it I've seen.

A little OT, CW, but what did you think of Perry's debate performance?

3 posted on 09/24/2011 2:35:32 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (undecided)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Someone has a crush on Ricky!
4 posted on 09/24/2011 2:39:06 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have been on vacation in Vegas for a week. Are you still supporting him? Really? I mean I did not see the debate (first one this year) but I have seen clips of him calling us heartless and other nonsense. I am just surprised that you still support him. I know some people are used to being abused but a FREEPER?


5 posted on 09/24/2011 2:44:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

La Raza Rick Perry. No Thanks.


6 posted on 09/24/2011 2:52:34 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Darkwolf377
A little OT, CW, but what did you think of Perry's debate performance?

Do you want me to parrot conventional "wisdom?"

If you want me to say it wasn't good, I would have to say no one can "look good" or do well with 8 lesser opponents trying to score points by taking swings at you.

Once the field is pared down and we can actually have something other than "poke him with a sharp stick" exchanges, we might actually know how Perry does in a debate.

Granted, debating is not his style of communicating. It isn't for many people. BTW did you hear Rick Santorum on Hannity yesterday going on endlessly (after a prompt from Sean saying he looked comfortable on the stage) about how important that is for a president. Santorum has a big head.

For what it's worth, a lot of the media hype about a "dismal" "bad" etc debate by Rick Perry (and it really was more catching incoming than a debate) --- the media doesn't like a close race and they need to slow Perry and keep it interesting and "breathless" for the viewing audience and keep those sponsors sending them money for advertising.

7 posted on 09/24/2011 2:53:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Do you want me to parrot conventional "wisdom?"

No, if I wanted that I'd have asked for that. No need to be defensive, I just know you're a big fan and was just asking the question I asked.

And not that YOU asked, but once again I am reminded that people think some moments are so important at the time, that are forgotten a week and definitely months later. It's not these TV shows that move primary voters--general election voters, maybe, but we're a long way off from that. I am intrigued to see how everyone who doesn't like Perry seems to be shouting "He's done!" Yet when their own favorites stumble, it seems, we just get excuses and dismissals. Sort of like how polls don't matter when one's favorite is down, but one positive poll and suddenly the polls don't lie.

You post a lot about Perry and I didn't know your opinion on this. So...just askin', that's all.

8 posted on 09/24/2011 3:03:09 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (undecided)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Last I checked, W was a “Christian President” — and fairly outspoken in his evangelicalism. So was Ronald Reagan—if less outspoken.

If what the article means is a true (small government) CONSERVATIVE Christian President, well, we haven’t see that since Reagan.

I also accept that Jimmy Carter is a Christian—even if badly corrupted by liberal politics...and more badly, Mr. Clinton—who despite his womanizing seems to have some sort of Christian faith...and even (YES, I’ll say it!) Barrack O...apparently has a variety of Christian faith (though I do not think one can say he is “born again” in any meaningful sense...but, who knows). (I actually heard a conservative political insider, who had friends in the White House, and Obama does genuinely seem sincerely religious to his people...)

Who cares though? Very committed Christians, politically can also be complete fools...(see Jimmmy C.... or really, in a lot of ways—regarding big-government, W. Bush) as reformer Martin Luther said about rulers, “Better a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.”

I for one though, think a wise evangelical Christian is the best of all worlds. And I think we may well have this in Rick Perry.


9 posted on 09/24/2011 3:31:27 AM PDT by AnalogReigns ((since reality is never digital...))
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...No need to be defensive, ...

I apolgize if I flared.

Often, I've felt how Perry must feel trying to make his point with limited time and multiple, rabid opponents trying to be noticed by using misinformation and spun sound bites.

And I thought exactly the same as you re: how this would have been played on this forum by those who are wearing their hearts on their sleeves for unrequited love.

10 posted on 09/24/2011 3:34:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AnalogReigns
(I actually heard a conservative political insider, who had friends in the White House, and Obama does genuinely seem sincerely religious to his people...)

There are no atheists in foxholes.

11 posted on 09/24/2011 3:37:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Perry shows he has learned something from this, he will be able to bounce back. The simple fact is, these are TV shows, and Romney is giving the better performance now. If Perry wants to be president, he’s going to have to show he can learn from these little pile-ons and come back. I don’t know him well enough to know if he can, but it’ll be interesting to watch. And whoever I hope will be the nominee, it sure ain’t Romney or Bachmann.


12 posted on 09/24/2011 3:37:51 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (undecided)
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.........The simple fact is, these are TV shows, and Romney is giving the better performance now. If Perry wants to be president, he’s going to have to show he can learn from these little pile-ons and come back..........

I would like to believe that the American people have seen what a packaged candidate gets them.

Then again, this could all be strategy by Perry's camp. Maybe he'll "run the table" next time.

13 posted on 09/24/2011 3:40:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the GOP somehow goes insane and nominates old Open Borders, they will only guarantee Obama another term.


14 posted on 09/24/2011 3:50:41 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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The Left is working overtime to redefine Perry because he's attacking from the Right and winning.

The truth of the matter is Mitt Romney was born with 4 aces and Rick Perry is from Paint Creek, Texas.

Romney is GOP establishment. Perry is Tea Party conservative.


Mitt Romney overlooks the Chrysler exhibit at the 1964 New York World's Fair with his father, Michigan governor George Romney


Ricky Perry with fellow Future Farmers of America officers from the Paint Creek School yearbook of 1968

15 posted on 09/24/2011 3:53:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have a feeling that I am writing to the blind, but get this straight anyway.

"Tea Party Conservatives" are not open borders amnesty fools like J.R. Perry.

16 posted on 09/24/2011 4:01:00 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: iowamark

Tea Party Conservatives who are paying attention and not running around spouting misinformation because they want another candidate, KNOW Gov. Perry wants the border SEALED.

But there you go again.


17 posted on 09/24/2011 4:03:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Is America Ready for a Christian President?

If it isn't, frankly, it can go to hell.

18 posted on 09/24/2011 4:14:10 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Rick Perry gets big welcome from Florida conservatives

….”Romney, who spoke before Perry at the event, received a warm welcome. But the crowd stood and cheered as soon as Perry took the stage at the Orange County Convention Center. The Texas governor accentuated his usual anti-Washington stump speech with references to former President Ronald Reagan, a conservative icon. "We need to push through to that shining city on the hill," Perry said. "As President Reagan said, we need bold colors, not pale pastels.".....

19 posted on 09/24/2011 4:14:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Darkwolf377

“If Perry shows he has learned something from this, he will be able to bounce back. The simple fact is, these are TV shows, and Romney is giving the better performance now. If Perry wants to be president, he’s going to have to show he can learn from these little pile-ons and come back. “

I agree with this-and I like Perry for the most part. If Sarah doesn’t get in and Cain fails to gain traction, I think Perry’s the best of what’s left. But what I want to see from him in these debates is depth. So far, it seems to me he hasn’t studies the issues enough to have a strong ‘back and forth’ with the other candidates. I know the knives are out against him, but I think just knowing the issues in greater depth would go a long way in allowing him to at least hold his own in these debates.


20 posted on 09/24/2011 4:20:26 AM PDT by lquist1
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