Skip to comments.A Tea Party Conservative's Defense of Ron Paul...and His Supporters
Posted on 09/24/2011 11:42:06 AM PDT by Bokababe
I want to state at the outset that this essay is not intended to be an endorsement of Ron Paul. While I respect and admire many of his positions and his fidelity to the Constitution, I have strong misgivings about some of his stances on national security. If you could hear the debates between myself and my 20-year-old son, a passionate Ron Paul supporter, you would readily accept the sincerity of my disclaimer.
That said, as the political season has heated up, I've been surprised at the tone of the discourse as it relates to Ron Paul. In fact, I can hardly believe what I'm seeing and hearing from my fellow Tea Partiers and conservatives. My assumption that conservatives are more thoughtful and logical than my emotion-driven liberal friends has taken a bit of a hit....
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Though Freepers do so love their circular firing squads!
I agree but I also think that these kids are very aware that it is their future that is really at stake in all of this and they are really the ones who will pay the highest price while most of us here are just worried about getting our Social Security check.
It's their generation who are going off to these wars because they can't find a job here -- and are coming back with the physical and mental wounds that all wars cause. It's their generation who is going to get stuck with the bill for all this useless spending long after we are out of the job market. These kids don't see the bright future that most of us once had, and squandered. They are far more afraid of that bleak, helpless moral and economic future in America than they are of Ahmadinejad or any Mullah halfway around the globe.
These kids have the energy that every successful Party and campaign needs -- and we are destroying it with this mocking and self-important silliness against Ron Paul. Address the issues and save the ad hominems for Obama.
Like I said before, even the most successful Repub candidate against Obama is going to need every possible vote to beat him. And even if the RP supporters are just ten-fifteen percent on the Republican side (more in the independents and converted Democrats), it's a number that the Republicans can't do without and still beat Obama. No sane reason to alienate them.
I made that point five years ago and nearly got thrown out of here before some level-headed Reagan supporter came to my rescue!
Then quit being part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Get off the collapsing Perry bandwagon. I just sent the Hermanator a contribution.
Every notice the most popular guy in any room? The one every follows, hangs on every word, and tries to emulate? It's always the nonchalant rich one. Sure, the guy with gun will get attention for a while, until people resent him and figure out how to overpower him, but the rich guy will win in in the long term because he's the guy who has something that everyone wants and is willing to do things for. He's the real leader.
America needs to be that rich guy again. Let someone else be the policeman that everyone hates -- a policeman who was never there to protect our interests anyway. World cops are always there to protect the overseas business interests of the elite, the American people just get the bill for it and think its about protecting them. Screw the elite, let them pay for their own mercenaries. We, as a people, need to get busy getting rich again. We'll be better protected making things that everyone wants, with our own army at home protecting us than we will with them overseas dying for countries not their own in wars that are bankrupting us. We need to start being American nationalists again -- worrying about our own country and its needs.
We hear precious little from any of the other candidates about reigning in an out of control Fed, Taking back control of our money from the world banksters, drastically cutting the size and scope of the Federal Government by eliminating entire agencies, or about simply taking the Constitution seriously when it comes to States rights and the power that is reserved to the people.
Only the kooks actually go there. None of the other candidates give any of that more than token lip service, and little, if any, actual observable action.
Why is that?
Even Sarah Palin, who will get my vote if she runs, doesnt seem to be able to take the leadership of support for the Constitution from Ron Paul.
How did seriously following the Constitution become the new third rail in this country?
How did we let Ron Paul become the primary owner of that political position?
Why don't you post a link? Please do find a recording of Ron Paul "mouthing his truther beliefs." I'd like to hear that.
Let me know when you find one.
This essay boiled down to raw facts is just a tepid assertion to cowtow to the ideology of Northeastern Liberal and Moderate Republicans.
Their rallying cry is:
“We want our money and smaller Constitutional Government.
But send the Neo-Cons (anybody who believes in “Peace through Strenght”)....and send the Social Conservatives home.
We Conservatives don’t accept Mitt Romney, who is at least sane when it comes to fighting terrorists and having a sound Foreign and Military policy.
But we should accept Ron Paul, who’s radical beliefs are to the Left of Obama on many issues in the NatSecurity and Social Issues area?
Sorry, if they want to come along in the Conservative / libertarian / Independent coalition...as with Reagan, fine.
But I will not entertain the lie that they are conservatives or any more acceptable than NE Liberals in the GOP.
Your hatred of Ron Paul is pathological, worse than any hatred of Obama. Crap like this, that isn't even true, is all you ever post. Take a chill pill.
Of course not. He endorsed Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party in 2008.
He did however bring attention to all the third Party candidates that the media completely ignores via a Press Conference, and McKinney was one of them.
Think about the media's and two Parties choices for president in the last twenty years: GH Bush against Clinton: Clinton against Dole; GW Bush against Al Gore; GW Bush against Kerry; Obama against John McCain. And name me a single one of those choices who is a small government Conservative. Waiting.....
The only way that we are going to have any real choices is to force the Parties and media to open up the field. Otherwise we are going to be forced to choose between worse and worse. That's the way the GOP likes it; that's the way the Dems like it; so they can feed you any crap candidate that they want to. Maybe you want to open wide, the rest of us don't.
And please don't tell me about this "we must all pull together behind whoever in the GOP to defeat Obama" while you are trashing Ron Paul worse than you trash Obama.
Because I believe Perry is the best Person for the Job.
I am tired of OJT Presidents. Bush 2 never actually had government experience and relied on RINOs to tell him what was good. (BIG Mistake)
Zero has ZERO experience in Gov OR Business. A twofer NO NO.
clinton did have governor experience but he was not interested in really doing anythin great for the country. It just expanded his dating life.
Bush 1 was a BUREACRATIC. A BIG NO No.
His ignorance of the true conservative fiscal policies, started us on this path to destruction. HOWEVER, WHETHER HE WAS PART OF IT OR NOT. I believe that his adminstration is the first that brought out the long knives on Wall Street.
His policies ar not unlike Zero if you take a close look. Tax and Spend.
Although I really Like Cain I would gladly support him for VP or a Cabinet Position.
But I prefer a candidate that has the experience and understands the problems of Leading in Gov. Perry is his own man and the one thing I really like about Perry is he listens to the will of the people. If his position is not acceptable he will accept the judgement of the people.
Unlike the last string of Pres, that think THEY are God almighty and us brainless peons can go to H.
I believe Perry will pull the nomination out and eventuallwin the WH. I am not a fair weathe supporter. I wait and look at all the candidates. I have made up my mind for Perry and unless he withdraws he has my vote.
And hopefully it will be a Perry-Cain tickit.
Because he's the only one who has been willing to take the heat for it. I wish that weren't true too. God Knows it would be a whole lot better to have a younger, prettier candidate who espoused those values and put their careers on the line with it, but am still waiting for that candidate -- and he/she is nowhere in sight.
Never worked in an election before have you? Any "dimwit" vote for a Constitutional government, a balanced budget and freedom is actually a vote against Obama's socialism. If he can pull it off, we could afford to lose a dimwit or two to pick up many more.
I agree, but it's somewhat heartening to see them supporting Paul instead of Obama. Look on the bright side!
How’d that Florida Straw Poll go for you today? Hmmnn?