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Rick Perry's campaign stuggles to explain straw poll loss
latimes.com ^ | September 24, 2011, 6:06 p.m | By Paul West

Posted on 09/24/2011 7:07:02 PM PDT by free me

Reporting from Tampa, Fla. -- A black, threatening cloud hung low over the Orange County Convention Center on Saturday evening as top members of Gov. Rick Perry’s brain trust left a place their candidate would love to forget.

At best half showed up, leaving tables groaning with uneaten bagels, scrambled eggs, bacon and fruit cocktail. At the end of the governor’s rather perfunctory eight-minute speech, the breakfast crowd offered a rather perfunctory round of applause, the first public clue that all might not be going well in Perryville.

The Texan’s campaign fielded the largest cadre of volunteers and paid staff at the event. His staffers, wires dangling from their ears (a touch, and expense, that no other campaign matched), were very much in evidence Saturday inside the convention hall, as they distributed signs and buttonholed delegates. Another visible sign of the considerable investment Perry made in Florida: signage that included a huge banner, hanging in the foyer of the convention hall, which greeted the 3,000 delegates, starting on debate night; Perry’s campaign paid an undisclosed sum to the state party for the privilege.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; heartless; nomorerinos; norinos; perry; perry4mexico; perrytanks
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1 posted on 09/24/2011 7:07:04 PM PDT by free me
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To: free me

Rick Perry’s campaign stuggles to explain straw loss
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Thieves came and stole it from his barn in the middle of the night...


2 posted on 09/24/2011 7:09:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: free me
Definitely. No wonder he had "heartless" on his mind. His own peeps!

I would have stayed to eat, and I know Chris Christie would have not left that stuff just sit there.

3 posted on 09/24/2011 7:10:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: free me
Florida voters have no heart. Imagine the cruelty of wanting a winner instead of a weasel.
4 posted on 09/24/2011 7:10:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: free me

Heartless here too

Maybe he can run for president of mexico.


5 posted on 09/24/2011 7:10:58 PM PDT by heiss
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To: free me

Hobbit extremists...


6 posted on 09/24/2011 7:13:14 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: free me

Heartless florida voters


7 posted on 09/24/2011 7:13:30 PM PDT by barmag25 (Cain vs. Unable 2012)
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To: free me

Closer to President Romney.


8 posted on 09/24/2011 7:14:28 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: muawiyah

Oh yeah, Christie would of loved that spread!


9 posted on 09/24/2011 7:14:51 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: free me

A black, threatening cloud hung low over the Orange County Convention Center on Saturday evening

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Did the LA times just refer to Herman as a cloud? What a bunch of racists.


10 posted on 09/24/2011 7:15:35 PM PDT by barmag25 (Cain vs. Unable 2012)
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To: free me

voters know who the alien-huggers are


11 posted on 09/24/2011 7:15:55 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Bilbo “The Anklebreaker” Baggins entered the room and told the folks what they were gonna do.

Perry got kneecapped by a blackjack. Romney got his toes smashed by a beer stein. The rest just ran away.


12 posted on 09/24/2011 7:16:17 PM PDT by ak267
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To: barmag25

lol! I was thinking the same thing!


13 posted on 09/24/2011 7:16:35 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Worse. In one debate he got too deeply involved in the question of needles stuck into 12 year old girls ~ definitely not a top level national concern ~ but still a "test" to be failed.

Then, there was the instate tuition problem. He had the big picture political stuff out of the way ~ the legislature did it to him ~ he said ~ like Romney said the legislature and the courts forced him down and made him accept gay marriage and a ruinously expensive medical insurance plan that's bankrupting Massachusetts and actually causing people to move out of state!

Gad, this guy had the same problems as the other guy ~ so far Huntsman hasn't blamed the Utah legislature for anything ~ if he knows what's good for him he won't either (Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!).

Caine provided Conservatives with short, pithy, very clear RED MEAT ~ he knew the needle in the fanny stuff wasn't game and neither was the "Legislature Made Me Do It" ~ and you best believe he knew you can't blame the Board of Directors!

These guys are running for President ~ which means they must instantly be able to differentiate between those things that are just dross, and those which are slime, to find those few shining nuggets of truth that must be pursued for the sake of the Nation.

14 posted on 09/24/2011 7:17:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: free me

Perry has a great commercial.......he is lousy in the debates(each one worse than the last), he always seems tired, heartless, illegals, that vaccine.......


15 posted on 09/24/2011 7:17:26 PM PDT by svcw (It is who I am, it is what I do.)
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To: free me

“black cloud”

What a racist, heartless newspaper.


16 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:04 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ak267

Frodo lives!


17 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: free me

Mebbe Ricky Ticky should offer a bill to pay for college of the children of terrorists. That should help him...


18 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:10 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Austrian achievement: convincing world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian)
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To: free me

The Perry collapse rivals Ed Muskie’s tearful breakdown and exceeds the Dukakis tank ride.


19 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:21 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: free me
Good grief, LA Times breaks out the drama! He made a mistake, he made a rookie error but it's not the end of the world. Get in some good people to work with him, add some polish and he'll be fine.

Both he and his people had to know he wouldn't do much after the debate performance, it will get better. I remember how people cringed after Sarah had her interview with Katie Couric and how everyone went on and on about how dumb she was during debate prep. HA! Dumb like a fox. She just needed a bit of polish and she got that real quick.

20 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:21 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: free me
A shame to leave so much good bacon uneaten. I could go for a few strips right now.
21 posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:44 PM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: free me

I’m still struggling to explain the scarcity of hardcore Perry supporters that told the rest of us to “shut up” and get on board with their candidate or we were guaranteed 4 more of Obama or even Romney.

Anyone seen one?


22 posted on 09/24/2011 7:19:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: McGavin999

Poor Perry keeps making the SAME RINO mistakes.


23 posted on 09/24/2011 7:19:57 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: free me

I must say that really is a racist lead.


24 posted on 09/24/2011 7:20:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: free me
A black, threatening cloud hung low over the Orange County Convention Center

Didn't someone recently get in trouble for comparing Obama to a black cloud? One that is hung low, too! Maybe this L.A. Times reporter needs to be taken out to the woodshed and taught a lesson. Of course, he might actually enjoy it.

25 posted on 09/24/2011 7:20:35 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Cicero

Silly! it’s perfectly fine when Libs do it! ;)


26 posted on 09/24/2011 7:21:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: free me

So according to the article, what happened in Orlando won’t “change what the campaign is doing.”

Perry will continue to tell conservatives we “have no heart”?

Perry will continue to call those opposed to illegal immigration “divisive” and “anti-immigrant”?

Perry will continue to resist using fencing on the border except in some “strategic” parts of some “urban” areas?

Perry will continue to call for legalizing the illegals by waving a magic wand over their heads and calling them “guest workers”?

Perry will continue to support subsidizing the college education of citizens of foreign countries who are in our country illegally?

Tell me again Einstein’s definition of insanity.


27 posted on 09/24/2011 7:21:29 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: free me

crash and burn.


28 posted on 09/24/2011 7:21:51 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: JPG

uhg! I’m off the worlds greatest food, bacon, until the Cholesterol comes down.

The thought of all that uneaten bacon, just sitting there, it makes me shudder.

Heartless


29 posted on 09/24/2011 7:21:59 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Anyone seen one?

Find that pretty odd myself today.
Think they may have been shocked and awed in a bad way.

30 posted on 09/24/2011 7:22:34 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Diogenesis

Simple truth is Perry is not a RINO. However, he’s got to be the only conservative I have ever watched be destroyed by conservatives.


31 posted on 09/24/2011 7:23:24 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: free me

Not just heartless. In the other debate he said we dislike illegals because their names sound different. That is leftist code for “racist”.

So he called us racist and heartless.


32 posted on 09/24/2011 7:24:03 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: free me; Bender2

RE: A black, threatening cloud...

Talk about a racially-charged and bigoted statement.


33 posted on 09/24/2011 7:24:45 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Indeed. Though many of the less hardcore have had the guts to come here and tell the truth.

It’s over for Perry.

PS- Love the tagline!


34 posted on 09/24/2011 7:26:07 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: McGavin999

On the contrary.

George W Bush did almost the same thing to his own support, with almost the same position.

Conservatives are not destroying Perry.

It’s entirely self-inflicted.


35 posted on 09/24/2011 7:27:41 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: free me

The heartless have no heart for the bleeding heart for TX.

Who da thunk it.


36 posted on 09/24/2011 7:27:50 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Kahuna
The Dukakis tankride was just one of those bad pictures no politician ever wants to have. What nailed him was when he equivocated when asked how he would react to his wife being raped and murdered.

That one item was a disaster ~ at the same time the questioner, and the audience, and Americans at large had no idea his wife had some serious mental issues (clinical depression) ~ and although that was her problem he too shared in the struggle.

We can only imagine the memories that triggered ~ fortunately medical science progressed and she found a serious degree of relief through ECT. Praise God !

37 posted on 09/24/2011 7:29:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Cajun; Norm Lenhart

They are probably supporting Cain now, lol.


38 posted on 09/24/2011 7:29:31 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I’m still struggling to explain the scarcity of hardcore Perry supporters that told the rest of us to “shut up” and get on board with their candidate or we were guaranteed 4 more of Obama or even Romney.

Anyone seen one?

They are scarce but they are here. See post 20.

39 posted on 09/24/2011 7:30:37 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: McGavin999

He was destroyed by himself.

Calling your own party base “racists” and “heartless” is not a good strategy, and is definitely not a winning strategy.


40 posted on 09/24/2011 7:30:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

He sure did!

Now he can go stuff it.


41 posted on 09/24/2011 7:32:20 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: free me

Thanks ;)

I bring this up for a simple reason. Although we all have our differences in who we support, there are a lot of people that have been verbally attacked (beyond the normal rough and tumble discourse) because they chose to point out Perry’s problems. I think a number of public apologies are owed them and I think the ‘hardcore’ should be held to it.

As for me personally, I don’t much care, but I participated in more than a few threads where the Perry supporters went way way over the line.

I will never claim to be the ideal conservative, but some of those comments were VERY un-conservative to say the least.


42 posted on 09/24/2011 7:33:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; McGavin999
Perry did it to himself. First he blamed it all on the state legislature ~ an habitual practice Romney is best known for. Then he accused his own voting base of being racist and heartless.

What that means is that he arrogantly ascribes to himself undeserved moral certitude.

We already got a guy who does that all the time. His current popularity is down there in the 30% range!

43 posted on 09/24/2011 7:33:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: free me
Perry lacks the ability to respond quickly to questions regarding his record. He's proved that before the debates as you can see here.

If I didn't know he was a pro-ILLEGAL alien, crony-capitalist dirtbag I might could feel sorry for him.

44 posted on 09/24/2011 7:35:52 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m still struggling to explain the scarcity of hardcore Perry supporters that told the rest of us to “shut up” and get on board with their candidate or we were guaranteed 4 more of Obama or even Romney.

Anyone seen one?


They’re down at the bar having a brewski with the Colin Powell for Prez reunion.


45 posted on 09/24/2011 7:35:59 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: free me
"The Texan’s campaign fielded the largest cadre of volunteers and paid staff at the event."

"Mark my words, it will be an unconventional campaign."
- Sarah Palin

46 posted on 09/24/2011 7:36:11 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Sarah Palin and whomever.)
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To: free me

Perry could’ve at least charged illegals out-of-state tuition if he allowed them access to Texas universities. No more Perry for me.


47 posted on 09/24/2011 7:36:58 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: muawiyah

As president, he cannot pass a single responsibility onto the courts or Congress.

The buck stops with him.


48 posted on 09/24/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: McGavin999

He is not a RINO and he is conservative on some issues (abortion,2nd amendment).

He is not conservative on too many others(immigration for one) and worse, he is out of touch with Tea Party conservatives.

Perry doesn’t get it, we need someone who does.


49 posted on 09/24/2011 7:37:53 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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Why is this such a devastating loss for Perry? Perry came in second, Romney was third. Why isn’t it a more devastating loss for Romney?

In any case, I like Herman Cain somewhat, but keep in mind he has taken absolutely ZERO scrutiny from the media so far. Gingrich has taken an onslaught from the media and is still standing. Perry is getting beaten up right now and is falling.... we’ll see if he can hang in there.


50 posted on 09/24/2011 7:38:14 PM PDT by jageorge72
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