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EPA To Shut Down 20% of Coal Plants in 2012
Town Hall ^ | 9/24/11 | Helen Whalen Cohen

Posted on 09/24/2011 9:26:48 PM PDT by Nachum

This article is a few days old, but it is worth a mention nonetheless. Susan Kraemer at CleanTechnica can barely contain her excitement at the prospect of environmental regulations. In an article titled "Obama's EPA Cues 130 Billion Race to Cut Pollution By 2015", she reports that the EPA will shut down 20 percent of coal plants through the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule. (Snip) The EPA will shut down an estimated 20% of the nation’s coal plants through the ground-level ozone rule (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR) ) through cap and trade that is about to be implemented in

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coal; coalplants; coldfusion; energystarvation; epa; epaoutacontrol; plants; shut
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1 posted on 09/24/2011 9:26:52 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Good to see that jobs are still the number 1 priority of Nobama....


2 posted on 09/24/2011 9:29:50 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Nachum

The EPA is completely out of control. It’s time to tear it down to the ground.


3 posted on 09/24/2011 9:30:23 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a hurriCAIN!)
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To: Nachum
the RATS won't be happy till we're all freezing in the dark...
4 posted on 09/24/2011 9:30:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: steelyourfaith; Nachum

Ping.


5 posted on 09/24/2011 9:31:50 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Nachum

Stupid emperor. He must be defeated. We must rise up from the idiotic actions of this man. Actions designed to kill the coal industry. To raise energy prices. To relegate us to third world status. Controlling the means of production. . . He studied Marx well.


6 posted on 09/24/2011 9:32:02 PM PDT by shankbear (Bush's fault......that is more in bad taste than my old tag line........)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


7 posted on 09/24/2011 9:32:02 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

No one can rightly claim that Obama didn’t warn us of his position on coal or oil or any other available, efficient source of energy. He hates them all, wants to tax them all heavily and wants the price of all of them to triple or quadruple.

Poverty, thy name is America.


8 posted on 09/24/2011 9:32:58 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Nachum
Congratulations to coal workers: your union dues that are going to You-Know-Who have meant nothing.
Side note: I hear Odrama's going to turn it all around next year... his motto for the coming election will be "Change and Hope".
9 posted on 09/24/2011 9:33:29 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Nachum
They unheld the hold?
10 posted on 09/24/2011 9:33:37 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Nachum
read a while ago where the Chinese gov't shuttered a bunch of steel mills.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and dictates business activity like a duck, then it's a communist regime.

Wake up, America!

11 posted on 09/24/2011 9:35:12 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: theDentist
I hear Odrama's going to turn it all around next year... his motto for the coming election will be "Change and Hope".

gallows humor bump.

12 posted on 09/24/2011 9:36:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Marie

I don’t think we need to tear it down to the ground necessarily but I do think we should cut its budget back to 2007 levels (along with every other government agency). They have way too much budget right now and are looking for ways to justify it.


13 posted on 09/24/2011 9:36:06 PM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: Rembrandt

“No one can rightly claim that Obama didn’t warn us of his position...”

We thank you for your insight, Captain Obvious. Now, tell us something we didn’t already know BEFORE the man set foot into the Oval Office.


14 posted on 09/24/2011 9:41:03 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Nachum

Another RINO or lib in the White House will continue this slide into hell.
Question is, is America smart enough to vote for real change?


15 posted on 09/24/2011 9:43:09 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Sarah Palin 2012 "Not For Sale!")
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To: RC one

I’d rather get rid of the EPA completely.


16 posted on 09/24/2011 9:43:39 PM PDT by wastedyears (Attaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch)
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To: freebilly

“Energy costs will skyrocket,” decreed the fraud a few years ago.


17 posted on 09/24/2011 9:44:19 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Chode

“the RATS won’t be happy till we’re all freezing in the dark...”

Just the ones who won’t drink Hussein’s beer.


18 posted on 09/24/2011 9:46:55 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Nachum
America's future?

19 posted on 09/24/2011 9:47:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Nachum
Check this out,
20 posted on 09/24/2011 9:49:47 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Nachum
Last I read they had backed off. The epa.
21 posted on 09/24/2011 9:53:51 PM PDT by allmost
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To: wastedyears

I don’t want raw sewage and toxic sludge being dumped in the field across the street from my well.


22 posted on 09/24/2011 9:54:30 PM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: Yosemitest

It looks like most are in Ohio. Sherrod Brown is very pleased.


23 posted on 09/24/2011 9:56:08 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Nachum
China is adding (bringing on line) one new coal fired power generating plant a WEEK!!

Pretty soon, I won't be able to afford to run the lights in my house.

ABOLISH the EPA and Obama.

24 posted on 09/24/2011 9:58:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: RC one

boo hoo,


25 posted on 09/24/2011 10:00:52 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming - OBAMI IS THE ENEMY OF FREEDOM)
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To: Nachum

Well, that is one way to take some strain off an overstressed grid. /s


26 posted on 09/24/2011 10:01:15 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: This Just In

“We thank you for your insight, Captain Obvious. Now, tell us something we didn’t already know BEFORE the man set foot into the Oval Office.”

It wasn’t me who p*ssed in your koolaid, pal.


27 posted on 09/24/2011 10:01:59 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure we can wait until 2012 to get this guy out of office.

I hope they can hang Fast and Furious around his neck, or one of the other scandals.


28 posted on 09/24/2011 10:03:04 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: RC one

Of course we need to shut down the EPA, as well as all federal government departments except for our legislative branches and the military.

Our Founding Father’s did not design America to be governed by a centralized entity. After that whole history back in the old country(as well as world history in general), they understood that a centralized power is prone to corruption.

The states must again be granted sovereignty to govern, along with a federal responsibility to protect our borders, and trade relationships abroad.


29 posted on 09/24/2011 10:05:37 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: RC one
I don’t want raw sewage and toxic sludge being dumped in the field across the street from my well.

Your state would allow that were it not for the EPA?

30 posted on 09/24/2011 10:11:53 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Rembrandt

It’s a good thing I don’t drink Kool Aid.

By the way, you really need to do something about that thin skin. If you’re going to insist on pontificating about, “No one can rightly claim that Obama didn’t warn us....” crap around here, you shouldn’t be surprised if someone posts a sarcastic response.


31 posted on 09/24/2011 10:12:15 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: RC one

That is as specious a strawman as I’ve ever seen here.

You [and everyone else] have a state environmental dept for that...same as you have a state education dept, state health department and several other state department of federal redundency departments.

Between Clean Air, Clean Water, Endangered Species, and Lib SCOTUS interpretations of the Interstate Commerce Clause, the feds have a stranglehold that can be broken only by either defunding/elimination/repeal; or revolt.

Lets try the legislative route...first.


32 posted on 09/24/2011 10:12:22 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: Nachum

Barack the Kenyan sticks it to his electrical union “brothers”. ROTFL!!! Hey union boys! How’s that hopey/changey thing working for ya?


33 posted on 09/24/2011 10:20:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gives them $535 million and they take "the fifth" when asked where it went.)
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To: Rembrandt

He did warn us. He said “you can burn coal if you want to, but if you do, you’ll go bankrupt”.


34 posted on 09/24/2011 10:25:11 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Nachum

Just in time for Andrea Rossi to pick them up for pennies on the dollar & convert them to LENR plants.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/09/rossi-suggests-e-cat-technology-could-be-incorporated-into-existing-nuclear-power-plants/


35 posted on 09/24/2011 10:27:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Nachum
Let's see: higher unemployment, more government regulations, more business forced to cut back or shutdown, more people on welfare and government assistance, higher fees for electricity——yep, a winning combination for the 2012 presidential race. Go obamma go! /s
36 posted on 09/24/2011 10:29:11 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Chode
the RATS won't be happy till we're all freezing in the dark...

The first breakers to be pulled during the brownout are those channeling power to Washington DC and the immediate environs. Any other city which harbors the domestic terrorists who think shutting down 20% of coal fired plants is a good idea whould get the same treatment. Let tham live off grid--preferably in the coldest weather of the year.

It's a little tougher to be so 'green' when you are turning blue and shivering.

37 posted on 09/24/2011 10:29:58 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Nachum

Ok, I think I’ma go buy me an E-lectrick car right now!

/s


38 posted on 09/24/2011 10:33:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Nachum

Even if we replace Obama, will the new POTUS have the power and guts to break the EPA? Will they have the power and will to remove career bureaucrats (how the heck do they get permanent employment anyway)? That means lots of lawsuits by career fools in the Justice Dept. (Holder’s appointees).


39 posted on 09/24/2011 10:33:39 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Nachum

The POS wants to completely destroy the ecnomy and America..


40 posted on 09/24/2011 10:36:10 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Army Air Corps; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
Yes. America needs the cost of energy to "necessarily skyrocket". Thank you very much.

No. Actually. The EPA must be dismantled and abolished in 2012, immediately after ObamaCare is repealed.

Thanx for the ping AAC !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

41 posted on 09/24/2011 11:00:41 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Nachum

2012 needs to be the year the EPA is shut down. It is far more harmful to this nation than coal mines.


42 posted on 09/24/2011 11:21:38 PM PDT by pallis
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To: pallis

We all want a clean environment, but we should not have an out of control government agency shutting down power plants. That’s taking things way too far. How is it that bureaucrats have that authority in the first place? EPA should not have that much power. They should be reined in.


43 posted on 09/24/2011 11:36:13 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: blam
I won't be able to afford to run the lights in my house.

That's why "smart meters" are being installed.

44 posted on 09/25/2011 12:34:23 AM PDT by banjo joe (u)
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To: umgud

I suspect they would if they could actually. I have no love for the EPA or for any of the bloated government agencies for that matter but I don’t care for pollution either. I think cutting all of their budgets back to FY 2007 levels is reasonable and far more acceptable to the average voter than completely eliminating them as some of my fellow freepers would recommend.Do you truly believe that eliminating the EPA entirely would be wise? It’s fun to blather about it on free republic but, in reality, does it take us where we want to go? I would rather put trout in my streams than dioxin sludge. Now, if you want to talk about defunding the welfare state, I’m all for that. Paying poor people to make babies is what got us where we are in the first place.


45 posted on 09/25/2011 1:02:28 AM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

respectfully, see post 45.


46 posted on 09/25/2011 1:04:23 AM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: rawhide

You forgot the most important fallout - the tsunami of outsourcing jobs.


47 posted on 09/25/2011 1:31:10 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Nachum
The simple fact that Zero is mandating his ecoStasi thugs to shut down - cold - 20% of our coal-based energy production in the next four years, with no viable, proven means of offsetting that reduction to the power grid, is an undeniable act of deliberate damage to our national infrastructure, and he should be removed from office post haste as an existential threat to the security and well-being of the Republic.

Will it happen? Hell, no. Not with the squirming pile of self-serving annelids we have infesting Capitol Hill. If we fail next November, you can write off the United States as a good idea that died by deliberately ingesting slow poison.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

48 posted on 09/25/2011 2:14:11 AM PDT by Viking2002 (RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!!)
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To: Nachum

Obama promised to do this.

It’s about the only promise he will actually keep.


49 posted on 09/25/2011 2:34:58 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Nachum

Nuclear power plant coming near you soon.As soon as GE get Obama’s nod.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


50 posted on 09/25/2011 3:14:17 AM PDT by Vaduz
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