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Video: Police ban Bible from Christian café
christian.org.uk ^ | 09/25/2011 | n/a

Posted on 09/25/2011 5:13:33 PM PDT by massmike

Police in Lancashire have told the owner of a Christian café to stop displaying Bible texts on a video screen, because it breaches public order laws.

Officers attended the Salt & Light Coffee House on Layton Road, Blackpool, on Monday 19 September, following a complaint about “insulting” and “homophobic” material.

The café’s owner, Mr Jamie Murray, says the officers did not specify which Bible texts had caused the offence.

He says the officers told him that displaying offensive or insulting words is a breach of Section 5 of the Public Order Act, and told him to stop displaying the Bible.

The Bible texts are displayed on a TV screen at the back of the café. Mr Murray uses a set of DVDs called the Watchword Bible.

The DVDs cycle through the whole of the New Testament verse by verse, with the words appearing on the screen. Mr Murray mutes the audio.

He told the police officers he would agree to stop displaying the Bible verses while he sought legal advice. After speaking with a lawyer, he is once again displaying the material.

In 2005 the same force, Lancashire Constabulary, paid out £10,000 compensation to Joe and Helen Roberts, an elderly Christian couple who had been investigated by the police for telling their council that they didn’t agree with homosexuality.

“After that controversy they promised to review their procedures to stop this kind of nonsense. They broke that promise on Monday when their officers marched into the Christian café. The police may now be facing another costly legal action.

“It ought to go without saying that reading the Bible out loud in a public place, or displaying Bible texts in a Christian café, is not of itself a criminal offence. I am alarmed that I even have to point that out.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antibiblehate; bible; enemiesofchrist; formerlygreatbritain; gomorrah; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualism; homotyranny; moralabsolutes; oncegreatbritain; relgiousliberty; religiouspersecution; uk
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1 posted on 09/25/2011 5:13:41 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike; little jeremiah

homosexual agenda ping


2 posted on 09/25/2011 5:14:25 PM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike

Now here’s a question, if I had every chapter from the Bible played in order in a Christian café, would they care? After all, I played the whole book, didn’t I?


3 posted on 09/25/2011 5:16:25 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: massmike
“It ought to go without saying that reading the Bible out loud in a public place, or displaying Bible texts in a Christian café, is not of itself a criminal offence."

Not yet.

4 posted on 09/25/2011 5:18:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: massmike

Remember - “We won the Cold War!” /sarc


5 posted on 09/25/2011 5:19:38 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Soon it will be illegal to even own a bible there.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 5:20:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: massmike

Well thank Gaia for that. If that thing got into the wrong hands, people could start loving their neighbors and honoring their parents!


7 posted on 09/25/2011 5:20:43 PM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: massmike

But if he was displaying verses from the Koran citing killing infidels and such then that would have been okay in Englandistan.


8 posted on 09/25/2011 5:22:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A critic is like a legless man who teaches running.)
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To: Morpheus2009

How’s this for non-biblical criticism of homosexuality... guess what, its a filthy practice and spreads disease and creates social tensions...


9 posted on 09/25/2011 5:22:34 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: massmike; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AFA-Michigan; AKA Elena; Abathar; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; ...
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Some of the important goals of the homosexual agenda is the total destruction of our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of speech, religion and association. We can add to that the right to private property or to run a business as one sees fit. Of course, someone may say, this is in the UK - part of the EU - we're in the US! Big deal. The leftist/homosexualist movement is international. What's happening in the UK, the EU or Canada is slated for here, as soon as they can. Complacency and cowardice and compromise are the very reasons we are teetering on the very edge of the abyss. Gird up and fight back is the only hope.

10 posted on 09/25/2011 5:24:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: massmike

Ban a Bible from a Christian cafe = lmao at such idiocy. =.=


11 posted on 09/25/2011 5:25:51 PM PDT by cranked
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To: massmike

So! We have become a police state!


12 posted on 09/25/2011 5:26:13 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs!)
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To: driftdiver
Soon it will be illegal to even own a bible there.

I hope they enjoy the sharia.

13 posted on 09/25/2011 5:27:34 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: dps.inspect

I also wonder sometimes if homosexuals ever have issues of jealousy amongst themselves...


14 posted on 09/25/2011 5:27:34 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: dps.inspect

I also wonder sometimes if homosexuals ever have issues of jealousy amongst themselves...


15 posted on 09/25/2011 5:28:12 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: massmike

Sounds like these keystoners are going to have their rear ends handed to them in court once more.

I wonder how hard the bobbies try to keep Moose from declaring murder and mayhem upon their rivals in the name of Allah?


16 posted on 09/25/2011 5:28:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Morpheus2009

Hell yeah they do!


17 posted on 09/25/2011 5:29:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: massmike
They should start posting the kill em allah queeranus quotes.

Homos apparently have no problem with being murdered as long as its not a Christian doing it!

18 posted on 09/25/2011 5:30:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: massmike
As I recall, Hillary wasn't amused either when I flashed a "Keep far from falsehood" sign at her motorcade when she was running for the Senate in NY.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 09/25/2011 5:33:02 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: massmike

***He says the officers told him that displaying offensive or insulting words is a breach of Section 5 of the Public Order Act, and told him to stop displaying the Bible. ****

In England, rights to the Bible are vested in the CROWN. So, the police must acknowlege that what is being shown is officially endorsed by ROYAL LETTERS OF PATENT, that is, by authority of THE QUEEN of ENGLAND.


20 posted on 09/25/2011 5:34:02 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: massmike

Britain is always a few years ahead of the US. I pray that the backlash against this immorality is coming here in 2012, but it seems too late for the UK. I hope they can prove tortuous interference, but their business will likely improve.


21 posted on 09/25/2011 5:35:09 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: massmike

Britain is always a few years ahead of the US. I pray that the backlash against this immorality is coming here in 2012, but it seems too late for the UK. I hope they can prove tortuous interference, but at least, their business will likely improve.


22 posted on 09/25/2011 5:35:55 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: massmike

I’ll bet the raiders do not pay the fines if any.How ironic that in situations like this a person can end up being a loser by having to pay part of their own legal award.


23 posted on 09/25/2011 5:44:30 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: massmike

In SF, there are gay bookstores with books on display showing fellatio on the COVER —they don’t get hassled for it.

How is this different?


24 posted on 09/25/2011 5:47:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I have one Bible with the patent, one (much newer) with the 'Imprimature No. 2208 Asministratura Apostilica Oemipoine, die 11, Junli, 1937 Urbanux Draxxl, Provicartius"

And just one old plain Bible that is worn with use. It's right next to the sweet 22-250 that shoots 1/8 MOA at 100 yards. Left hand bolt, so it's awkward for some folks.

I figure I'll read any of my Bibles when and where I please. Everyone else can pound sand if they don't like it.

/johnny

25 posted on 09/25/2011 5:49:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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'Imprimature No. 2208 Asministratura Apostilica Oemipoine, die 11, Junli, 1937 Urbanux Draxxl, Provicartius"

Way to screw that up.... Administratura....

26 posted on 09/25/2011 5:55:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: massmike

You may have your churches now, UK, but the track you’re rolling down won’t allow any “negative” speech soon enough.
Unless you get your sh!t together, the Orwellian “thought police” you welcome will further decimate what’s left of yoru once proud nation.
I love the Brits but the UK state is a complete travesty. Sadly the USA is not far behind.


27 posted on 09/25/2011 6:02:57 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: massmike

—He says the officers told him that displaying offensive or insulting words is a breach of Section 5 of the Public Order Act—

I was going to say that is ridiculous and totally unconstitutional. Then I noticed it was in the UK.

Never mind. Now I know why the Pilgrims risked their lives to brave the ocean voyage to the new world. Now they can just go to Hethrow. there should be a flood. Why isn’t there?


28 posted on 09/25/2011 6:05:08 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: massmike

—displaying offensive or insulting words —

That’s pretty funny. ALL words offend or insult SOME people. It allows a complete shut down of any semblance of free speech. But it is not really protected in the UK, so I guess this is sort of a “dog bites man” story.


29 posted on 09/25/2011 6:07:41 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: driftdiver

This crap is coming our way.


30 posted on 09/25/2011 6:09:27 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: cuban leaf
Now they can just go to Hethrow. there should be a flood. Why isn’t there?

Because they can't afford it. The government tries to keep the 'rabble' poor.

What ever happend to the poor sods that were wearing the Cross of St George for a uniform? I was all behind the red cross on white.

/johnny

31 posted on 09/25/2011 6:10:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Morpheus2009

Heck ya...


32 posted on 09/25/2011 6:15:22 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: massmike

gird your loins, Christians. The haters and anti-free speech fascists are coming for our liberty. NO matter if you live in England or America.


33 posted on 09/25/2011 6:23:22 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: massmike

great Britain is slowing sliding into that black hole known as third world country status. The government and its people are too stupid and lazy to do anything to stop it.


34 posted on 09/25/2011 6:30:35 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: massmike
Those passage are in the Holy Queeran, too.

Just switch over to the Queeran and dare the cops to say a word.

35 posted on 09/25/2011 6:30:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I just hope that Great Britain doesn’t start becoming a new source of illegal immigrants to the U.S. again... So 19th century...


36 posted on 09/25/2011 6:34:09 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: massmike

Look for this kind of sh!t to start happening here.When do we stand our ground against the gubmint?


37 posted on 09/25/2011 6:53:14 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Of course, bellowing “Behead those who insult Islam” on London streets is perfectly civilized behavior.


38 posted on 09/25/2011 6:54:43 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: massmike
Liberty is certainly being constrained in the U.K. these days, based upon this story, and others of a similar vein. In addition, if we eliminate the Bible from public display, if we try to scrub the conviction that violation of God's principles will result in His wrath, from the minds of the public because some find it offensive, we get to a point where there is no longer any valid basis for determining whether something is good or bad. Everything depends on emotions; there are no absolutes.

Such is the world of liberalism, where good is bad, and up is down. Where they believe there is no basis for determining right or wrong, and yet they condemn others for proclaiming something as true. On what basis do they make this value judgment? This is cognitive dissonance.

39 posted on 09/25/2011 6:58:07 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: self

ping


40 posted on 09/25/2011 7:02:08 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: cradle of freedom; All

Okay, are the French alone in trying to crack down on some Islamic practices? Because honestly, the most I have heard recently was a request from a few British guys to change the Imams, which I wonder if anything happened...


41 posted on 09/25/2011 7:22:02 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: massmike

No one left in the UK to lead a revolution?


42 posted on 09/25/2011 7:26:43 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter Hobbit)
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To: Kirkwood
No one left in the UK to lead a revolution?

Besides Muslims, you mean? They have plenty of those...

43 posted on 09/25/2011 8:22:29 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: grumpygresh

- “Homos apparently have no problem with being murdered as long as its not a Christian doing it! “

It’s my belief that this is a manifestation of the literally suicidal self-loathing homosexuals feel. Though they sashay about “proudly” they also have an... well I guess I shouldn’t say “alarming”... pronounced tendency to drink themselves to death, escape reality with intravenous drugs, eat themselves obese, etc. And completely setting aside the perversities inherent in being homosexual, they are involved in plenty of supplementary practices which put themselves at great risk regardless of the male/female issue. I’m sure any EMT could expand on those for you.

In the same way, though a Sharia state would inevitably lead to their own destruction, they cheer for it whole-heartedly, knowing deep down inside that it will bring about the self-destruction they crave.


44 posted on 09/25/2011 8:27:40 PM PDT by How low can you tax?
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To: Greysard

Muslims don’t need a revolution. It is being handed to them.


45 posted on 09/25/2011 9:45:09 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter Hobbit)
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To: massmike

Coming soon to a local community near you. The time has come when the Christian must stand and declare I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.For a man cannot be a Christian in the place where he is -he cannot be a Christian anywhere. (As Henry Ward Beecher said - see Americas God and County p.42 n.33)The world certainly will not respect a Christian who lacks the convictions of his faith . And Jesus said “If you are ashamed of Me here ,on Earth, I will be ashamed of You before My Father ,in Heaven.


46 posted on 09/26/2011 4:05:54 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: StonyBurk

Simply stated, England is lost. It will never be the proud nation it once was and you ask, “Why?” Guess you don’t know much about the liberals and mussies, do you? (Not that I know so much but can read the writings on the wall).


47 posted on 09/26/2011 4:27:11 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly. If it were from the Koran, none of them would say a word.


49 posted on 09/26/2011 7:11:49 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Progov

I agree England appears “lost” but the judgement belongs to the God once worshipped in all those empty churches. God can and still does the Miracle His promises remain true. And England is not yet so far “lost” it cannot be redeemed . But the liberals and the Mahotmadans do have the upper hand on earth ,at the moment God alone has the power to build a nation —or to remove it. And many a war/ or battle has been lost when one attempted calculate the human response.


50 posted on 09/27/2011 3:09:23 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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