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Retailers Are Put on the Spot Over Anti-Gay Aid [Gays Want $$ Cut-Off To Christian Groups]
NYTimes ^ | September 25, 2011 | Matthew Ryan Williams

Posted on 09/25/2011 6:13:38 PM PDT by Steelfish

Retailers Are Put on the Spot Over Anti-Gay Aid By ERIK ECKHOLM September 25, 2011

Matthew Ryan Williams

A handful of advocates, armed with nothing more than their keyboards, have put many of the country’s largest retailers, including Apple, Microsoft, Netflix and Wal-Mart, on the spot over their indirect and, until recently, unnoticed roles in funneling money to Christian groups that are vocal in opposing homosexuality.

The advocates are demanding that the retailers end their association with an Internet marketer that gets a commission from the retailers for each online customer it gives them. It is a routine arrangement on hundreds of e-commerce sites, but with a twist here: a share of the commission that retailers pay is donated to a Christian charity of the buyer’s choice, from a list that includes prominent conservative evangelical groups like the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family.

The marketer and the Christian groups are fighting back, saying that the hundred or so companies that have dropped the marketer were misled and that the charities are being slandered for their religious beliefs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: deathoffreedom; deathofliberty; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualism; homotyranny; sliming4homofascism
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1 posted on 09/25/2011 6:13:40 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

how do we fight back?


2 posted on 09/25/2011 6:15:57 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Steelfish

How sad that it is not a coalition of family groups pressuring companies to stop donating to homosexual groups.


3 posted on 09/25/2011 6:16:22 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Steelfish

Two can play at this game, if the homofascists want to play hardball. There are a lot more non-perverts in society than sodomites. At least, one would hope so...


4 posted on 09/25/2011 6:16:31 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Proud to be a bitter, clinging barbarian hobbit!)
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To: Steelfish

Sounds like it’s time to boycott merchants who make contributions to gays ~ or who have employee selection processes favoring gays.


5 posted on 09/25/2011 6:16:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Steelfish

It’s those ‘oh so open minded’ liberal gays trying to shut down our right to speak. They’re bullies.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 6:19:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I got an email from a pro-life organization that was having problems with Paypal, so I cancelled my membership and told them 3 times why. They have to know why. I didn’t know about Macy’s -BUT I DO NOW! I love Macy’s, too, bummer.


7 posted on 09/25/2011 6:20:11 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Steelfish

so let me get this right.
homosexuals who do very unnatural things to each other and do have a mental illness say it is not alright for companies to give their money to certain groups but it is alright for other certain companies to give money to their homosexuals groups which is clearly not normal nor natural

OK got it, well piss off homosexuals, cross dressers, you need mental help and you need to spend your time seeking that instead of telling certain groups where they can and cannot give their money to


8 posted on 09/25/2011 6:21:40 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: icwhatudo

American family association.

They keep tabs on the whack jobs and report on which companies give money to them in order to further their agenda


9 posted on 09/25/2011 6:22:38 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Steelfish

I love the NY Slimes “funneling” money. Makes it sound like they are supporting the Christians when it is just the Christians using a service like Paypal. Hey, I can boycott, too, and I do! I don’t use Google anymore.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 6:23:11 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: muawiyah

I don’t give my money to certain companies

Home depot is a big money giver and actually recruits open flaming queers.

Soon as I found this out I sent them an e-mail and stopped going there along with my family.


11 posted on 09/25/2011 6:24:08 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Steelfish

Can they move along and adapt. So tired of this political correctness stuff-This is the United Sates of America. It says united for a reason-”we are equal” This is not United States Can I have this, America. We are all the same. Just some of us have a belief in God’s word so stop bashing those of us who believe in our views and of fair play in the market place.. Can’t show Christmas with God, can’t show a Jesus statue, can’t show the 10 commandments unless all of these are shown to the masses as something vulgar which they claim is art. (art??!!)) Hope these businesses continue to use fair market promotions for everybody.


12 posted on 09/25/2011 6:24:49 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: muawiyah

maybe it’s time for Jim to put up a list on here which companies like to give their money to certain homo groups so we all know where to spend our money just like they do.

There is a damn more of us than them


13 posted on 09/25/2011 6:25:24 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Steelfish

The gays and their benefactors are doing nothing but hurting what is left of their respect. They just cannot keep out of the world’s face, STFU, and live in their own little perverted world. They just cannot grasp that much of the normal world does not support their lifestyle and they should do themselves a favor and get used to it.

Of course the present level of rampant, criminal liberalism is encouraging this activity as well. But I would hope they would be smart enough to recognize the typical playbook divide-and-conquer DemoRAT tactics in play. Apparently not. Group and class warfare from the radical left is hurting the gays.


14 posted on 09/25/2011 6:25:28 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Steelfish

Freaking perverts. They have so much hate. Commie libs hate America but the homosexual perverts hate everybody, including themselves.


15 posted on 09/25/2011 6:27:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gives them $535 million and they take "the fifth" when asked where it went.)
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To: Steelfish
F*&K YOU!! We are not cutting funding...

End of sentence

16 posted on 09/25/2011 6:29:08 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("Live free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - John Stark)
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To: GOPJ

It is about time that all the normal people get off the fence and chose sides since this is all the homos want to do—make people chose sides. If they attack the churches then the churches should fight back. There are millions of people at church on any given Sunday, why don’t the churches have the congregation sign petitions protesting the bully efforts of the deviants.

As for those who have swallowed all the gay lies for these past several decades, can you now not see that these are some really nasty people who want to dictate everything to us. Is this America? Where is freedom of speach?


17 posted on 09/25/2011 6:31:21 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: manc

Christians don’t parade naked in the streets, do not perform lewd acts in public.


18 posted on 09/25/2011 6:33:32 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Steelfish

Boycotts aren’t always successful. In fact, they often backfire.

For example, suppose a company has a potential market of 1,000,000 customers. Suppose of that number, 20% actually shop at that business. That results in 200,000 customers. Suppose of that number, 5% boycott the store. That means 10,000 people boycott.

Now, of that orginal 1,000,000 potential customers, there are 800,000 that aren’t currently shopping at that business. If 5% of those get mad at the boycotters and being shopping at that business, that results in 40,000 new customers.

The end result is that the business gains 30,000 new customers because of the boycott.

What can we do?

1. Support businesses that don’t bow to liberal pressure. (For example, make a special effort, as I do, to occasionally eat at Chik-F-la.)

2. Support the peripherals that might potentially suffer from the boycott. In this case, donate to the Family Research Council. I have in the past. It is a great organization.


19 posted on 09/25/2011 6:33:32 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“how do we fight back?”

Start a company that competes with Apple and don’t give in to the pro gay groups.


20 posted on 09/25/2011 6:34:20 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Steelfish

It has gone from “the love that dare not speak its name” to “the hate that demands everyone else validate it...or else”.


21 posted on 09/25/2011 6:34:27 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Steelfish

Now it’s a jihad on Paypal.

Many people despise Paypal for a myriad of reasons, real or imaginary, but this looks like a move to try to get Paypal to jilt the Christian groups or to give some baksheesh to the gay groups. Well, Paypal probably gets a lot more business from Christian groups than it does from gay groups. How many Christian businesses can you find in a Google search, compared to gay businesses?


22 posted on 09/25/2011 6:35:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Chick-fil-A has a pretty nice concept. Their contemporary product doesn’t seem to be as good as I remembered it from a few decades ago. Maybe it’s the peanut oil they say they are using now, when it used to be corn or soy oil.


23 posted on 09/25/2011 6:38:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Steelfish

Guaranteed this originated from inside or close to the white hut. Just ask yourself..’why now?’ It’s part of re-energizing their freak show constituencies.


24 posted on 09/25/2011 6:39:13 PM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m not a big chicken sandwich eater myself. Just mainly occasionally eat there to show my support.

My kids, on the other hand, could probably keep them in business all by themselves. Something called ‘’chicken minis’’ or some such thing for breakfast.


25 posted on 09/25/2011 6:41:18 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Won’t that be something when the Muzzies gain so much more population in the US with our declining birth rates, then face the queers!


26 posted on 09/25/2011 6:44:19 PM PDT by oldtimer (uee)
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To: manc

There IS a reason it’s called Homo Depot.


27 posted on 09/25/2011 6:46:37 PM PDT by allblues
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good question.
Maybe a Group like ‘Christian For Family Values Companies”

But that would mean boycotting 90% of companies including Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Oracle, AT&T, Microsoft; Verizon and the names never stop.


28 posted on 09/25/2011 6:47:01 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

This isn’t even about the companies in question supporting these pro family groups, it’s simply the internet retail buyers donating a portion of the commission they pay through an internet marketer to a Christian charity of their choosing. The homofascists are intent on shutting down all dissent.

The companies who rolled over for this nonsense and decided to discriminate against and punish these pro family Christian ministries include Apple, Microsoft, Avis, Westin Hotels and Expedia.

I will do my level best to not support in any way these companies actively working to undermine Biblical values.


29 posted on 09/25/2011 6:47:01 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: bereanway

Has anyone compiled a List of these companies that “rolled over” to these Sodomite fascists? We need to be pro-active otherwise we’ll end up being another London or Berlin or Sydney.


30 posted on 09/25/2011 6:49:53 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: GOPJ
It’s those ‘oh so open minded’ liberal gays trying to shut down our right to speak. They’re bullies.

There's only free speach when the progs agree with you, otherwise it is hate speach and you are to be destroyed.

31 posted on 09/25/2011 6:53:04 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: EagleUSA

“They just cannot grasp that much of the normal world does not support their lifestyle and they should do themselves a favor and get used to it.”

Wat they cannot grasp is many people don’t give a rats butt what they do. But they turn everything into a drama and bring attention to it.

When the rats get the illegal vote they will throw the gays under the bus.


32 posted on 09/25/2011 7:01:12 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarahcuda in 2012. Nothing but Net!!!)
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To: Steelfish

I don’t know. I would imagine this Christian based internet marketer CBCG would for certain have a list. The thing that’s especially noxious about these companies is that this isn’t really about just supporting the homo agenda but actively working to limit the ability of consumers to support these Christian ministries with their commission dollars that these companies such as Apple never ever even see. Even homo friendly companies like Delta and Target decided this was a bridge too far.

Add Macys to that list as well.


33 posted on 09/25/2011 7:08:18 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: Steelfish

Nice, we have the Taliban right here in the US. No Freedom of Speech when it comes to the Sodomites.


34 posted on 09/25/2011 7:18:54 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers?)
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To: Steelfish

There was a young man coming out of homosexuality in our Bible Study a decade or so ago. He said that every sodomite every morning wakes up and KNOWS it is wrong and a perversion. I believe that is why they fight so hard for acceptance.


35 posted on 09/25/2011 7:25:55 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers?)
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To: Drill Thrawl
There's only free speech when the progs agree with you, otherwise it is hate speech and you are to be destroyed.

Odd how liberals can't see that... you're right, Drill.

36 posted on 09/25/2011 7:30:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: muawiyah

You mean like Home Depot?


37 posted on 09/25/2011 7:35:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
how do we fight back?

Form a group of like minded associates. Rally members to your cause. Accuse your enemies of hate and bigotry. Threaten business with boycotts for supporting your enemies. Threaten politicians with dismissal from office. It works for them. If you have more on your side they will comply. A tea party on steroids would be the closest image in my mind.

38 posted on 09/25/2011 7:38:47 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
how do we fight back?

Form a group of like minded associates. Rally members to your cause. Accuse your enemies of hate and bigotry. Threaten business with boycotts for supporting your enemies. Threaten politicians with dismissal from office. It works for them. If you have more on your side they will comply. A tea party on steroids would be the closest image in my mind.

39 posted on 09/25/2011 7:38:57 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
how do we fight back?

Form a group of like minded associates. Rally members to your cause. Accuse your enemies of hate and bigotry. Threaten business with boycotts for supporting your enemies. Threaten politicians with dismissal from office. It works for them. If you have more on your side they will comply. A tea party on steroids would be the closest image in my mind.

40 posted on 09/25/2011 7:39:05 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
how do we fight back?

Form a group of like minded associates. Rally members to your cause. Accuse your enemies of hate and bigotry. Threaten business with boycotts for supporting your enemies. Threaten politicians with dismissal from office. It works for them. If you have more on your side they will comply. A tea party on steroids would be the closest image in my mind.

41 posted on 09/25/2011 7:39:05 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Steelfish

you will need the mark of the homo beast to buy or sell.


42 posted on 09/25/2011 7:39:28 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Steelfish

Some day Christians and/or conservatives, or whatever mainstream group is being targeted indirectly by far left extremists, need to start fighting back by boycotting any retailer that reacts to threats such as this.

They could end any retailer’s responding to such pressure because there are many times more Christians and conservatives than far left activists.

Boycott those who respond to far left extremists’ demands.


43 posted on 09/25/2011 7:43:06 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

To clarify one thing, I think that personal boycotts are great. It is organized and public boycotts that sometimes end up backfiring, and I hope that any leftist boycott might do that in this case.

As far as personal boycotts, one should follow one’s conscience, even if it out of step with the current social and political climate. (My family laughs at me because I refuse to eat in any restaurant named after female body parts.) But, just looking at the numbers, boycotting evil, while necessary and appropriate, is probably not as effective as giving concrete support to those who oppose evil. We need to be ready to support the good guys who have the courage to stand firm against the footsoldiers of Satan.


44 posted on 09/25/2011 7:47:26 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Steelfish

Homosexuality is a pervasive, infectious virus, like the HIV it spreads. If not stopped, it will kill its host.

It does not want to be treated equal, it wants to devour everything.


45 posted on 09/25/2011 8:06:39 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Steelfish

Whoever compiles the list, please make sure it has been checked & cross checked for accuracy.


46 posted on 09/25/2011 8:09:47 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BwanaNdege

Where are the Black Churches on this?


47 posted on 09/25/2011 8:12:50 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Will88

“They could end any retailer’s responding to such pressure because there are many times more Christians and conservatives than far left activists.”

True, but gays have many times the disposable income than other groups as they typically don’t have kids.


48 posted on 09/25/2011 10:19:22 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Doesn't work that way. People who don't care don't get mad. They simply don't care.

Those who do get mad, care, and take action.

The gay blades want economic war, then that's what they get ~ economic war.

49 posted on 09/26/2011 3:30:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: allblues

LOL


50 posted on 09/26/2011 4:27:42 AM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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