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Michael Vick exits with broken hand
espn ^ | Sept 25, 2011

Posted on 09/25/2011 7:20:23 PM PDT by doug from upland

PHILADELPHIA -- One week after suffering a concussion in a rough-and-tumble loss to the Falcons, Eagles quarterback Michael Vick broke his right hand on what he considered a late hit in Philadelphia's 29-16 loss to the rival New York Giants.

The hit in question happened in the third quarter when Giants defensive tackle Chris Canty delivered a hard shot on Vick after the quarterback completed a 23-yard pass to Jeremy Maclin.

"I was trying to protect myself," Vick said in his postgame news conference. "Still didn't get a flag and that's pretty much been the story for the last three weeks. I mean, obviously at some point something catastrophic is going to happen and I broke my hand."

It appeared on replays that Canty hit Vick in the facemask with his helmet. Vick sat on the ground, lifted his helmet off slightly before getting helped up by a teammate and an official.

"Looking at the replays, I'm on the ground every time, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't frustrated," Vick said in his postgame news conference. "The refs have got to do their jobs. And I mentioned it to the refs in training camp when I talked to them. I'm on the ground constantly, all the time. Every time I throw the ball, I'm on the ground. And I don't know why I don't get the 15-yard flags like everybody else does."

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Awwwww, poor Michael. Karma. At least they didn't lift him up and slam him down on concrete or electrocute him. Yes, he paid the price set by the court, but gee, I guess I'll be judgmental and say that price was not nearly enough. He gets no sympathy from me. For money and thrills, he tortured some of God's helpless creatures. Yes, I believe in redemption. Maybe he will earn that by showing kindness and saving animals for the rest of his life. A short time in the slammer doesn't do it.

NOTE: if Canty really did pull a deliberate dirty play and try to cause an injury, the NFL should sit him down for a year. I don't condone that, even against Vick.

1 posted on 09/25/2011 7:20:30 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Life is tough on running quarterbacks in the pros. I’m surprised he lasted this long.


2 posted on 09/25/2011 7:21:48 PM PDT by Loud Mime (The Obama voters are dumber than you think, meaner than you can imagine)
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To: doug from upland

He’s been complaining all year that the refs don’t call roughing the passer when he is the passer. I wonder what percentage of NFL refs are dog lovers.


3 posted on 09/25/2011 7:22:43 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Loud Mime

Those years in prison did not seem to tough him up.


4 posted on 09/25/2011 7:23:14 PM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: doug from upland

That’s, counting, three broken Vick hands on FR!


5 posted on 09/25/2011 7:24:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: doug from upland

By his own rules if he aint tough enough to play/fight perhaps he needs to be euthanized


6 posted on 09/25/2011 7:24:21 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: doug from upland
NOTE: if Canty really did pull a deliberate dirty play and try to cause an injury, the NFL should sit him down for a year.

Nonsense. Late hits happen multiple times per game in the NFL. And I saw this particular hit -- it wasn't anything out of the ordinary. At most, Canty and the Giants should've been charged with a 15 yard personal foul penalty. But it was boderline, so I have no problem with no flag being thrown at all.

7 posted on 09/25/2011 7:25:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: gorush

Maybe they should get a good offensive line that keeps him from getting hit so much.


8 posted on 09/25/2011 7:25:23 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: doug from upland
NOTE: if Canty really did pull a deliberate dirty play and try to cause an injury, the NFL should sit him down for a year.

Nonsense. Late hits happen multiple times per game in the NFL. And I saw this particular hit -- it wasn't anything out of the ordinary. At most, Canty and the Giants should've been charged with a 15 yard personal foul penalty. But it was borderline, so I have no problem with no flag being thrown at all.

9 posted on 09/25/2011 7:25:37 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: doug from upland

I am a dog lover. He gets no forgiveness from me.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 7:25:55 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: al baby
By his own rules if he aint tough enough to play/fight perhaps he needs to be euthanized

His coaches failed to "steal" smaller players from other teams to "blood" him. That would have made him meaner. I guess it's time to either body slam him or shock him to death with an electrical cord.

11 posted on 09/25/2011 7:29:12 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I didn’t see the play and modified my comment with an “IF.” I agree that penalties are the proper punishment for most late hits. My point was that, if someone tries to deliberately injure someone, far greater punishment is deserved than a 15-yarder. I don’t suspect that such is the case here. Hope that clarifies it.


12 posted on 09/25/2011 7:30:21 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: KoRn
Maybe they should get a good offensive line that keeps him from getting hit so much.

The problem rests as much, or more, with Vick as it does with the offensive line.

The best NFL quarterbacks are the ones who make the right decisions quickly, get the ball out of their hands quickly, and consistently throw very accurate passes.

Vick does none of these things well. His strength is using his athleticism to extend out plays and allowing his receivers to get open. It's a recipe for hitting some big plays, but it's also a recipe for getting carted off the field a lot.

Vick is a great athlete, but he is simply not a great quarterback in the way that guys like Peyton Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers are.

13 posted on 09/25/2011 7:31:31 PM PDT by jpl
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To: doug from upland

I always felt that they should apply the rule that if a player commits two personal fouls in game, they should be immediately tossed from the game, and suspended for the next one.


14 posted on 09/25/2011 7:32:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!

Sorry. I almost always do a check before I post. I apparently screwed up and didn’t check this time. Vick could not have three broken hands but a dog in his charge could have had three broken paws.


15 posted on 09/25/2011 7:33:38 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: al baby

” By his own rules if he aint tough enough to play/fight perhaps he needs to be euthanized “

In spades!!

: )


16 posted on 09/25/2011 7:35:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: dfwgator

B U M P


17 posted on 09/25/2011 7:35:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: doug from upland

Imagine the commentary if this had happened in the Dog Pound of Cleveland.


18 posted on 09/25/2011 7:37:16 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: doug from upland
It's often difficult to determine what's deliberate and what's not. Vick has had problems with concussions, so a helmet to helmet hit could be construed as deliberately trying to put out his lights. But often helmets just hit helmets out without any deliberation -- it's a violent sport. And I don't think defenders should be penalized by being forced to sit out an entire year because of it. The NFL is becoming way too wussified. Butkus, Lambert, Lott, and (Deacon) Jones wouldn't have lasted 3 games without being booted out of the league with the way the rules are now constructed.
19 posted on 09/25/2011 7:37:37 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

The old timers played when players where not nearly as big and fast, and they tended to tackle in the proper manner, wrapping up the runner with their arms, instead of launching into them.


20 posted on 09/25/2011 7:39:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Loud Mime

Broken hand! He won’t be able to pet his dogs. Pity!


21 posted on 09/25/2011 7:39:57 PM PDT by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: dfwgator

Absolutely and I totally agree.


22 posted on 09/25/2011 7:42:12 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: dfwgator
and they tended to tackle in the proper manner

Butkus used to try to rip QBs and RBs arms out of their sockets. Deacon Jones used to put a cast on his arm and then slam it against O-linemens' heads. Art Tatum used to try to decapitate receivers. What era are you referring to, the 1920s?

23 posted on 09/25/2011 7:43:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think guys like Butkus tended to exaggerate a bit, how many players actually wound up getting hurt at the hands of Butkus or Jones?


24 posted on 09/25/2011 7:45:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Lots. The injuries just weren’t broken down on ESPN a million times back then. Ever see Chuck Bednarik’s Hit on Frank Gifford? More brutal (and cheap) than anything you’ll see today. Put Frank out for a long, long time. And he was never the same.


25 posted on 09/25/2011 7:49:03 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: doug from upland

Every dog has its day.


26 posted on 09/25/2011 7:49:16 PM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government's footprint!)
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To: doug from upland

Video with Vick being hit, breaking his hand, at 1:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkjifeLCcOc


27 posted on 09/25/2011 7:49:48 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Loud Mime
Life is tough on running quarterbacks in the pros. I’m surprised he lasted this long.

The injury came on a pass play where he stayed in the pocket. Didn't look like it deserved a flag, but QBs get it sometimes.
28 posted on 09/25/2011 7:52:02 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Judging from the video there was no pocket.

The hit was mild and a few years back any QB in either league would've been embarrassed to complain about it.

29 posted on 09/25/2011 7:55:19 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Grizzled Bear

His coaches failed to “steal” smaller players from other teams to “blood” him. That would have made him meaner. I guess it’s time to either body slam him or shock him to death with an electrical cord.


Excellent point!!!


30 posted on 09/25/2011 7:55:23 PM PDT by Student0165
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To: jpl

To my recollection, a true running quarterback has never won the big prize. Also, Vick was a flawed quarterback and the idea he can be trained to become a brilliant quarterback probably is wishful thinking.

Vick would have plenty of sympathy for his injuries but complaining that he doesn’t get late hit calls (while saying he wasn’t complaining) struck me as a big mistake.

I’m not a Vick hater and I yell at the over the top OMG Vick killed a dog he should die! Freepers, however I think the Eagles have major egg on their faces this year.

The whole Vick thing is exciting, interesting, he’s a great athlete, but relying on him to bring a Super Bowl seems to run against football history. Also seems he gets injured every game.


31 posted on 09/25/2011 8:04:53 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: doug from upland

32 posted on 09/25/2011 8:20:47 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Williams

“To my recollection, a true running quarterback has never won the big prize.”

Steve Young, SF 49ers, 1994 SB Champions.

Michael Vick is not a QB; he’s a running back that throws the football.


33 posted on 09/25/2011 8:29:46 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Don't like Perry? Then honestly answer this: Is Romney better?)
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To: gorush; Salamander

MEOW?


34 posted on 09/25/2011 8:30:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Joe 6-pack

Woof


35 posted on 09/25/2011 8:33:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Williams

Steve Young also won the SB MVP for that game.


36 posted on 09/25/2011 8:39:17 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (If not Perry, it's Romney. And if it's Romney, it's Obama.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

By that time in Young’s career he was no longer a running quarterback.


37 posted on 09/25/2011 8:40:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GOPsterinMA

Fran Tarkenton didn’t win any SBs, but he should have.


38 posted on 09/25/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.


39 posted on 09/25/2011 8:41:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Well, he could run.


40 posted on 09/25/2011 8:43:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Williams

...”OMG Vick killed a dog he should die!” I’m afraid he did much more damage than kill one dog. Many, many animals needlessly suffered and died because of him.


41 posted on 09/25/2011 8:47:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland

Dang! No rib through a lung? A broken hand is to easy on him.


42 posted on 09/25/2011 8:52:47 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: skeeter

Agreed.


43 posted on 09/25/2011 9:01:43 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (If not Perry, it's Romney. And if it's Romney, it's Obama.)
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To: doug from upland
Yep. In fact, most people I've spoken with about the subject think that Vick's only offense was illegally fighting his dogs. They have no clue about the hanging, beating, electrocution, and other methods of torture he and his homeys engaged in just for kicks.
44 posted on 09/25/2011 9:02:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

And they thought it was funny that smaller animals were ripped to shreds by his dogs. The evil this man committed deserved many years in prison and a lifetime of work saving animals. Instead, he gets a short time in prison and a 100 mil contract.


45 posted on 09/25/2011 9:06:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: dfwgator

IN 1994, Young had 293 rushing yards and 7 rushing TD’s. Not the runner he was, but still very good for a QB.


46 posted on 09/25/2011 9:09:20 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (If not Perry, it's Romney. And if it's Romney, it's Obama.)
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To: doug from upland

Just amazing that Vick only had a broken hand.

As a QB, Vick took so many chances to get hurt, it almost looked like he was still playing HS football.

Perhaps he should be complaining that some big bully broke his back


47 posted on 09/25/2011 9:16:25 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Don't forget the dogs and cats that were stolen to train his dogs with! People's pets met a terrible end.

Screw Vick and anyone who has a problem with me hating him. I hope the hand doesn't keep him out of the game long - he need to get crippled for life.

48 posted on 09/25/2011 9:18:32 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: doug from upland
100 mil contract.

With 40 mil. guaranteed. I'd wager that his career will be over (most likely due to too many concussions) long before his 6-year deal is up. But that 40 mil. will be in the bank. The Eagles are insane for giving a guy that fragile and whose style makes him far more prone to injuries than most QBs that kind of contract. They deserve their fate. (The so-called "Dream Team" is now alone in the cellar of the NFC East....hopefully for good).

49 posted on 09/25/2011 9:21:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: doug from upland

I completely agree with your first paragraph. Don’t really care what happened or who did it. Just can’t and don’t feel sorry for Vick. The animals he tortured are still living with that experience and dealing with it daily — those that survived, that is. No sympathy here either. None.


50 posted on 09/25/2011 9:22:40 PM PDT by JLLH
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