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The Murder of an American Nazi
CBS News ^ | September 25, 2011

Posted on 09/26/2011 12:24:35 AM PDT by nickcarraway

When Jeff Hall, a rising star in the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, was murdered last spring by his own 10-year-old son, it seemed easy to blame the boy's exposure to violent rhetoric and guns. But, as correspondent Lesley Stahl reports, the truth is far more complicated. "60 Minutes" investigates the case and the growing strength of hate groups nationwide.

The following script is from "The murder of an American Nazi" which aired on Sept. 25, 2011.

Earlier this year, the leader of a neo-Nazi group was murdered in Riverside, California. His name was Jeff Hall. He was a burly man, six-foot-three, a devoted father of five young children and a plumber who had been unemployed for three years. Jeff Hall was shot at near-zero range in his own living room. What was astonishing - was who shot him.

Jeff Hall at home: We've been through a lot together, some of us, you know. Seriously.

This is 32-year-old Jeff Hall. These pictures were taken just hours before he was executed - right in this room. The executioner - this child: his son. His 10-year-old son. But if you find this image disturbing, consider this one: taken two weeks earlier.

"60 Minutes Overtime"

Video journalist Julie Platner spent a year chronicling the life of an American neo-Nazi and his family

A neo-Nazi rally on the streets of Trenton, New Jersey.

Hall at rally: Who's streets?

Crowd: Our streets!

Hall: Who's streets?

Crowd: Our streets!

Hall: Who's streets?

Crowd: Our streets! Zeig Heil!

Hall delivering speech: We are not afraid of you!

Jeff Hall was a rising star in the largest neo-Nazi group in the country, the National Socialist Movement, or NSM.

Extra: Breeding hatred in the U.S.

Crowd at rally: Zeig Heil!

The numbers nationwide are still small - 500 members tops, but they're growing.

Hall: This isn't dress up, this isn't a game. We are fighting for our children's future.

According to Jeff Hall and the NSM that future would be an all-white, non-Semitic America.

Hall: There's other groups I could join. There's tons of them.

Jeff Hall joined only three years ago - but seen as personable and charismatic, he quickly became the leader of NSM in California, Arizona, Utah and Nevada.

Hall: Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil!

This footage was shot by Julie Platner, a filmmaker and photographer, who was able to gain the NSM's trust.

Nazi: How ya doin' Miss Julie?

And enter their closed world of private meetings.

Hall: Julie has me mic'ed


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbsnews; illiterate

1 posted on 09/26/2011 12:24:39 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Another hit piece trying to link right-leaning conservatives to nazis and extremism. If you read the whole transcript, you find out at the end that the father being a neo-nazi really had nothing to do with the son killing him at all. The son, as far as everyone interviewed was concerned, was predestined to become some sort of killer. Apparently he exhibited all kinds of classic signs. Then there was the father whom was abusive to the mother and son. The son at the age of 10 decides he needs to kill his father to escape the abuse.

The whole nazism aspect had nothing to do with the whole story. It’s just another piece of stealth yellow-journalism to feed lies to the ignorant public.


2 posted on 09/26/2011 12:51:06 AM PDT by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great sight for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: brent13a

Anyone wacked enough to believe Nazism is a viable political strategy today, I would not be at all surprised to see him being cruel to his own family.


3 posted on 09/26/2011 1:00:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: nickcarraway

Paging the one group that can save us from these dangerous right wingers, the altruistic Southern Poverty Law Center. /sarc>


4 posted on 09/26/2011 1:07:14 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Anyone wacked enough to believe Nazism is a viable political strategy today, I would not be at all surprised to see him being cruel to his own family.

Family stated he was a good father (I guess that = not abusive) until he started drinking.

From the obvious slant of the story I don't think the neo-nazism had much if anything to do with the build-up to his son killing him.

The lefty journalist makes the nazism=right-winger connection from the get-go implying that the 10 year old son was a Hitler incarnate and that's why he became a mass-murdering pre-teen.........and then spends the rest of the story telling us how the son murdered the dad because he was an abusive father whom had fallen into the bottle and been drinking heavily.

This pinko-journalist essentially is using the article to imply that all unemployed lower middle-class conservative white people with big families and guns are obviously all extremists and racists and raise killer kids that are extremists and racist.

It's tired old schtick that shouldn't fly as real journalism anymore.
5 posted on 09/26/2011 1:11:51 AM PDT by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great sight for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: brent13a

Conservative=Nazi=hatemonger=racist=stupid, don’cha know.

BTW, it’s ‘sieg’, not ‘zieg’—at least in the German language.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 3:53:09 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“60 Minutes” investigates the case and the growing strength of hate groups nationwide.

I’ll bet they ONLY investigate “white” hate groups. You know, only “whitey” is capable of “hate” in the eyes of liberals such as those at CBS.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 4:23:56 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: nickcarraway

Right on que as the elections advance the MSM starts the Nazi theme. Coincidence? Hardly. Look for many more such themed stories. Look for a perse uted Homosexual story and some racist event to grab national attention. We’ve seen all this before. It’s coming again.

Obama himself is intentionally stirring up strife. I believe Obama is purposely insighting violence. Look at his class incindiary warfare language. Look at his talk of telling Blacks to gett up and march! Obama is trying to get citizens at each others thoats.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 4:30:09 AM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: Mr. Wright

You can count on it.


9 posted on 09/26/2011 4:31:05 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: nickcarraway

Get back to us all Leslie when you discover the local Wahhabi Mosque......


10 posted on 09/26/2011 4:31:28 AM PDT by mo
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To: nickcarraway
Hall: Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil! <

Zeig??? Dyslexic Nazi? MSM fail?

11 posted on 09/26/2011 4:36:37 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: nickcarraway
You know, I watched this report, and there was nothing linking the dumbass Nazis to any conservatives or rightwing agenda.

When 60 Minutes fails to link Nazis to conservatives, why do people on this site do it for them?

Even denying the connection, when they didn't suggest it exists, makes conservatives look defensive.

12 posted on 09/26/2011 4:42:23 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The biggest evil of the Nazis was state sponsored racism, which led to the holocaust.

After Holder’s dismissal of the NBP voter intimidation case, what does that say about America?

Black liberation theology is negro-nazism.


13 posted on 09/26/2011 4:53:15 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: mo
Get back to us all Leslie when you discover the local Wahhabi Mosque......

... or Gun Walker

... or the Solyndra scandal

14 posted on 09/26/2011 4:58:17 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: nickcarraway

If these people were real journalists, they would explain to the masses what national socialism is. It is when the government creates a partnership between large corporations to run the country. There is private property ownership, but the business are all controlled by and with the government. What we call crony capitalism today. The only time this is called right wing is in Europe, but in no way resembles American style right wing.

Then again, we don’t have real journalists in this country. At least not at the corporate level because they are all in bed with the government also. Like good national socialists/crony capitalists...


15 posted on 09/26/2011 5:04:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: nickcarraway

It was funny watching this because my mom was here from PA this past weekend and she grew up in Nazi Germany. She was pretty pissed at these idiots.

If you want to stand up for the white race, fine by me but don’t be an a$$ about it. Nothing cool or intelligent about it especially to those who had to live through it, even if you were “pure aryan” like my mom’s family was.


16 posted on 09/26/2011 5:17:07 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: nickcarraway

It was funny watching this because my mom was here from PA this past weekend and she grew up in Nazi Germany. She was pretty pissed at these idiots.

If you want to stand up for the white race, fine by me but don’t be an a$$ about it. Nothing cool or intelligent about it especially to those who had to live through it, even if you were “pure aryan” like my mom’s family was.


17 posted on 09/26/2011 5:17:45 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

” There is private property ownership, but the business are all controlled by and with the government.”

That’s a primary political tenet of obuma and his left wing fascist democrat party. America has been steering toward fascism for decades.


18 posted on 09/26/2011 6:23:24 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
" America has been steering toward fascism for decades."

If people would realize the true tenets of fascism and not the sensationalized stuff about gas chambers, auschwitz and the murder of jews they would see this statement is scary but true. If people would look at other fascists states in history like Italy and Spain they would see the parallel to what they did and where we are heading. Just ask Jeffery Immelt, CEO of GE. Mr. head crony capitalist...
19 posted on 09/26/2011 7:31:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: dead

Because from the beginning the Neo Nazi’s have tried to influence opinions on FR. Jim has always caught them and banned them. but, they try to pretend to be mainstream. You always know them by the constant repetition of lies.

And heaven forbid anyone talk about rational solutions to real problems.
As far as the guy in the report, he had been out of work for 3 years. His wife and Mother were concerned about his activities. but when he started taking his hate out on the child and wife, it ended.

And the HATE.


20 posted on 09/26/2011 7:34:35 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually Nick they are NATIONAL SOCIALIST MOVEMENT.

25 POINTS OF AMERICAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM
http://www.nsm88.org/25points/25pointsengl.html

This is “cute”:
We demand that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens. If it should prove impossible to feed the entire population, foreign nationals (non-citizens) will be deported.

All non-White immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-Whites currently residing in America be required to leave the nation forthwith and return to their land of origin: peacefully or by force.

THE UPSHOT OF THIS LITTLE BUNCH OF HEATHENS IS THAT THE STATE (REICH) SHOULD DECIDE EVERYTHING. NO FREEDOM.
Just like uncle adolph.


21 posted on 09/26/2011 7:45:10 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

You are right, we are in the middle of a fight against Fascist under Obama. they like to call themselves progressives. You can interchange the names, all of these ideologies are about ONE thing the oppression of the people and hate. Hatred of individual freedom.


22 posted on 09/26/2011 7:48:39 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: nickcarraway

American “nazis”?

What a lame bunch of fear-mongering.

The falling satellite last week was more dangerous than American “nazis”.

The only nazis anymore are pimple faced pretenders, or the few still hiding in South America.

The left is becoming more absurdly bonkers, by the day.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 7:51:02 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: nickcarraway

Some people need killing. The kid should get a medal!


24 posted on 09/26/2011 7:59:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: nickcarraway
"When Jeff Hall, a rising star in the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement"

Liberal Democrat activist killed by his kid, film at 11.

25 posted on 09/26/2011 8:20:36 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"The only nazis anymore are pimple faced pretenders, or the few still hiding in South America."

You're right. This is like the magician who wants you to watch his right hand while his left is doing the slight of hand. What the media really needs to be looking at is the true National Socialists. The Jefferey Immelts of the world who get all cozy with the Obama white house and produce green energy that no one wants, but Obama forces it down our throats. Immelts company gets to pay no taxes for it's acquiescence to the government's wishes. We need a flat tax or a consumption tax, now!!!
26 posted on 09/26/2011 8:33:22 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: MikeSteelBe

The USA is doing it differently, with the soft bigotry of lowered expectations, rather than blatantly trumpeting a master race.

A master race is awfully convenient for a nationalist socialism, because it infallibly pegs who belongs to the nation (shoot, Hitler all but dubbed “Aryans” all over the world to be honorary Germans) but it wouldn’t absolutely be needed. And any socialism saps a nation’s strength, because it knows no stopping place.


27 posted on 09/26/2011 9:11:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Ezekiel
Zeig??? Dyslexic Nazi? MSM fail?

Definite MSM fail. The CBS transcriptionist also gave us this gem, several times:

Hall: Who's streets?
Crowd: Our streets! Zeig Heil!

Probably some twenty-something journalism graduate from an elite college and with all the "right" degrees, but they don't know the difference between who's (who is) and whose (possessive). Brilliant.

28 posted on 09/26/2011 9:18:44 AM PDT by TheSarce (Reject Socialism. Champion Liberty.)
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