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Rick Perry Isnít Over : But he needs a rebound after the Florida straw poll.
National Review ^ | 09/26/2011 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 09/26/2011 6:25:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Orlando, Fla. — Florida voters may have closed the door on a Presidency 5 straw-poll victory for Rick Perry, but they haven’t shut the window on the possibility of voting for him in the primary.

Perry’s poor debate performance — particularly his accusation that those who disagreed with him on providing in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants lacked a “heart” — upset delegates and almost certainly caused his devastating 20-points-plus loss to Herman Cain in the straw poll. But many Florida Republicans remain open to the idea of ultimately voting for Perry in the primary.

Florida retiree Judy O’Donnell says she’s “sticking” with Perry because she values his gubernatorial experience and his attitude. “I think Perry’s a fighter,” O’Donnell says. “And I want a fighter in there. I don’t want Casper Milquetoast.” Kearsten Angel, a Florida attorney, says she’s disappointed in Perry’s debate performances, but hasn’t give up on him yet. “I hope my initial gut feelings about him are correct,” she says. “He’s got a little bit of a learning curve.”

Many are also quick to point out that as the frontrunner from the time he entered, Perry has faced an enormously tough situation. “Given the fact that eight other candidates tried to beat him up, I thought he didn’t get any permanent scars,” remarks Walt Travinski, a business owner. O’Donnell points out that Perry faces an experience deficit. “I’m sticking with Perry,” she says. “I think that he’s not used to the big stage yet. Someone like Romney has had that experience a couple of times.” Angel notes that as governor of a state adjoining Mexico, Perry had to confront the issues surrounding immigration more than most governors.

Rosemary Mills, a delegate who attended Perry’s breakfast the morning of the straw poll but voted for Cain, is willing to give Perry the benefit of the doubt on his immigration statements. “I really wish that Perry would find a way to communicate that to the people so that we would understand what his [immigration] position is better. I’m open to hearing more,” Mills says, but adds that “the education of illegal immigrants concerns us, not because we have bad hearts, but because we think of our own children, too, and grandchildren and what opportunities they’ll have.”

“I’m sure that it came across differently than the way he feels,” agrees Barbara Stephens, another delegate.

Maria Oddo, a volunteer for Perry, shows that Perry — like Sarah Palin and Ron Paul — has the potential to attract an especially dedicated base. “He is being persecuted right now. Like Jesus,” she remarks, although she notes that she didn’t agree with his immigration position. “[I] work as hard for him as I did for Marco Rubio,” she says. “I believed in Marco, even though, when he started, he wasn’t winning either. But he was honest with us, the same way as Perry is.”

For many in senior-citizen-packed Florida, Perry’s immigration statements were far more worrisome than his description of Social Security as a “Ponzi scheme.”

“Two or three years ago, if you had walked in here and say do something with Social Security and Medicare, the seniors would go, ‘absolutely not.’” Travinski says. But things have changed. “After two years of hearing day after day how bad it is, they are all recognizing we’ve got to do something. We’ve all got grandkids,” he remarks.

For Perry, winning a second act among Florida voters would require a revamped pitch — including easing off the fireworks between him and Romney during debates, which irked many of the voters that I spoke to. He would also face an uphill challenge winning back the support of those who dislike both his immigration policy and his dismissive rhetoric concerning those who disagree with him.

Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union and former chair of the Florida GOP, notes that Perry could use upcoming debates to help redeem himself. “There are twelve, 15 rounds of debates,” he says, noting that Perry could use those debates “to hone his message and maybe rethink things.”

“He’s got to be defining himself as he goes forward,” Cardenas adds. “Romney’s had five years to do that. People have a better understanding of what he’s all about. Rick Perry has got to do in two months what Romney’s done in five years, and that’s make sure people understand well what he’s all about.

Cardenas also thinks that Perry needs to cool down his rhetoric, saying that while senior citizens are open to Social Security reform, any usage of the term “Ponzi scheme” should be a “non-starter” — and few are interested in making Social Security run by the states.

“Calling it a ‘Ponzi scheme’ doesn’t sit well even with movement conservatives,” Cardenas observes. “Calling for changes, I think conservatives are all for it. When Herman Cain speaks about the Chilean model, you don’t see anyone jumping up in fear, right?”

Delegate Barbara Stephens has a specific idea about how Perry could revitalize his candidacy.

“A Perry/Cain combination would be dynamite,” she gushes.

— Katrina Trinko is an NRO reporter.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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1 posted on 09/26/2011 6:25:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rosemary Mills, a delegate who attended Perry’s breakfast the morning of the straw poll but voted for Cain”

lol


2 posted on 09/26/2011 6:27:59 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: SeekAndFind
To get back in the race, Perry first has to turn his immigration policies completely around 180 degrees...an unlikely move.

So, he's toast, despite MSM's efforts to prop up his viability.

3 posted on 09/26/2011 6:31:06 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Re: Cain...Where's the experience everyone always talks about. It was hot and heavy in 2008.

Washington, Jefferson, Adams....THE PRESIDENCY IS A POLITICAL POSITION...Cain is the guy on the school board.

I'm sorry....I'm being realistic.

4 posted on 09/26/2011 6:32:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Rudder
To get back in the race, Perry first has to turn his immigration policies completely around 180 degrees...an unlikely move.

....and you would trust him at this point?.....he would be calling himself 'heartless'. He's O U T !!!!

5 posted on 09/26/2011 6:33:00 AM PDT by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! (Vote for Newt, Mitt, Cain or Santorum))
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To: SeekAndFind

WTF??

Instead of talking about how Romney or Perry “must rebound” after LOSING, how about talking about the ACTUAL WINNER


6 posted on 09/26/2011 6:39:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: Rudder
Perry's immigration response may have doomed his campaign. Conservatives like to debate facts (hence the popularity of conservative talk radio). Had Perry come out with a list of reasons for his immigration stances that were at least debatable, he might have worked through it.

But to come out and say "people that oppose illegal immigration are heartless" was a deal killer for many. That's a tactic of the left: throw out an emotional appeal designed to (1) make anyone that disagrees with you seem immoral, and (2) shut down any further debate.

They only thing that will accomplish with conservatives is make them turn to someone else.


www.nerds4cain.com

7 posted on 09/26/2011 6:39:43 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain CAN Win)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why in hell would Cain want someone so incompentant on the ticket for his vp.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 6:39:43 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why in hell would Cain want someone so incompentant on the ticket for his vp.


9 posted on 09/26/2011 6:39:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why in hell would Cain want a vp loser///?????
10 posted on 09/26/2011 6:41:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Everyone knows that SS has problems. Perry just put a name to it.

Re: Immigration....Neither set of my grandparents ever became citizens. The only thing they did do was register at Ellis Island. The goal was a job in America. And every one of their "born in America" children and grand children and great grandchildren went to the Public Schools.

All the other states educate illegals, too.

11 posted on 09/26/2011 6:41:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

“Re: Cain...Where’s the experience everyone always talks about.”


Herman Cain may be the most “experienced” candidate to run in the last half century, just not the most experienced politician.

•Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.

•Master’s degree in Computer Science.

•Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).

•Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.

•VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).

•All achieved before reaching the age of 35.

Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!

•Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.

•Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.

•In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.

•He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.

Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!

•Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.

•Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.

After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!

•Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.

•Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).

He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.

Pretty good for “just a pizza guy.”

The fact is NOBODY running has more experience than Herman Cain, unless “political experience” is the only thing you count as experience. Personally, I think “real world experience” counts more, because that is what we need right now—someone that has real experience, not just another politician.


12 posted on 09/26/2011 6:45:40 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain CAN Win)
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To: Sacajaweau
Bull, it is a different day and time and the law is the law and k12 is different than college. Trying to dumb down the issue does not work anymore than calling people heartless, you are now calling them stupid.
13 posted on 09/26/2011 6:46:48 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

His immigration (excuse me: Illegal immigration) policy has cost my vote. I would never vote for someone who feels it’s ok to let a person who’s illegally here get benefits of any kind. . . . I don’t care if it’s college tuition or whatever. Illegal is illegal is illegal.

This one issue has cost him my vote. Obviously, if he were the head of our ticket, I’d have to rethink because of the illegal alien who’s already in our White House.


14 posted on 09/26/2011 6:47:40 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Brookhaven

Had Perry come out with a list of reasons for his immigration stances that were at least debatable, he might have worked through it.


You have hit the nail square on the head.

Perry’s problem isn’t just the immigration issue but most all of his answers are a struggle to make them coherent to the listener.

I’m surprised the campaign and Perry haven’t taken the time to develop a one minute response to several topics [six to eight], then commit them to memory and practice, practice, practice until he gets it down. Perry needs to learn not to take the bait questions but give positive answers to what he’s down and would do to sovle the issue.

If he doesn’t do that then by the end of the next two debates, Oct. 11 & 18, he’ll be out of the race. He’s got an opportunity to revive his campaign, the balls in his court to see what he’s made of. It’s either all bumble and stumble or thoughtful direction on what he’d do.


15 posted on 09/26/2011 6:50:34 AM PDT by deport
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To: Sacajaweau

“Re: Immigration....Neither set of my grandparents ever became citizens. The only thing they did do was register at Ellis Island.”


If they entered through Ellis Island, then they were in the USA legally. Your grandparents were NOT illegal immigrants.

Are you sure you understand the definition of illegal immigrant?


16 posted on 09/26/2011 6:52:06 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain CAN Win)
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To: Brookhaven
The fact is NOBODY running has more experience than Herman Cain,

Yeahbutt' he's never been a cammoonity organizah, has he?

17 posted on 09/26/2011 6:53:06 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: SeekAndFind

The one thing with Cain is that he’s a business man and not a full time politician. I was with my father and mother in law this past weekend (sadly, they both lean democrat), and when we saw the straw poll come out they both asked who Herman Cain was. Their excitement when I told them he was a businessman actually shocked me. People aren’t looking for politicians as of late. They want a leader. A business leader just adds to that.


18 posted on 09/26/2011 6:58:07 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Brookhaven
Every state educates illegals. Texas goes it one step better and makes higher education a path for citizenship. It makes sense if you think about it.

Take the blinders off.

19 posted on 09/26/2011 7:02:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins; P-Marlowe; Cincinatus' Wife
Florida retiree Judy O’Donnell says she’s “sticking” with Perry because she values his gubernatorial experience and his attitude. “I think Perry’s a fighter,” O’Donnell says. “And I want a fighter in there. I don’t want Casper Milquetoast.”

In the end people will want experience. If we end up with a nominee with no executive experience obama will make a big deal about how he's "learned so much in his 4 yrs and now is not the time to start training someone new". If Perry improves his debate performance he will be in good shape.

Right now a lot is being made of his immigration position, but it will draw the middle to him. What is encouraging is he is under constant attack from both the right and left and yet he has not "flip flopped" on the issues.

20 posted on 09/26/2011 7:03:10 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife and I were delegates at P-5 to us Perry crashed and burned at the debate, he seemed like some arrogant child.

We skipped his breakfast and ended up throwing our support for Herman Cain, he spoke from the heart!!!


21 posted on 09/26/2011 7:05:01 AM PDT by Surfer Bert (Remember when seconds count police are only minutes away)
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To: Rudder; Fawn; Mr. K; org.whodat; cripplecreek; South40; stephenjohnbanker
THIS JUST IN: Rick Perry planning a comeback after bombing in Florida.

"Clearly, heartless Americans will not vote for a great guy like me."
"That is why I intend to sign an Executive Order to finance govt-issue heart transplants."

22 posted on 09/26/2011 7:08:41 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Brookhaven

What about my crowd...”Honkies for Herman” or “Crackers for Cain”? Good man!


23 posted on 09/26/2011 7:09:25 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: SeekAndFind

Turn out the lights and fold up the tent.....the Perry Circus is over.


24 posted on 09/26/2011 7:11:09 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Lessons In Disaster: LBJ, Carter,Clinton,Obama.)
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To: Liz
Would that not be mandatory heartless transplants.
25 posted on 09/26/2011 7:13:20 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Brookhaven

Great post....I thought that crap about Cain needing “experience” was an stupid statement the minute it was posted.


26 posted on 09/26/2011 7:15:45 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: Liz

I don’t want to look at this guy anymore...he’s a LIBERAL!


27 posted on 09/26/2011 7:17:13 AM PDT by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

this is a great article, right on the mark.


28 posted on 09/26/2011 7:19:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: deport
I’m surprised the campaign and Perry haven’t taken the time to develop a one minute response to several topics [six to eight], then commit them to memory and practice, practice, practice until he gets it down

I'm getting the impression that Perry believes all he had to do is squint his eyes, smile and sound sincere and he could bullsh^t his way through the debates. Might work in Texas.

29 posted on 09/26/2011 7:19:47 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: Brookhaven
A million guys have the same/similar resume.

My own son was writing computer programs for missiles at age 27...including testing them in Alabama. Then there was his stint to install and teach "computer technology" in several countries....including Bahrain.

30 posted on 09/26/2011 7:21:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

So now you are saying that Perry is using higher education, which is against the law, as some sort of back door amnesty program. He needs to get in the debates and say that, nothing like shooting yourself in the foot with a shotgun. Makes for good TV.


31 posted on 09/26/2011 7:22:03 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: deport
I agree that is exactly Perry's problem, he has got to learn to articulate his views better in a debate (short time span) venue. I think if he had more time like in an interview he could address all of these issues to most people satisfaction. If might help him to start releasing videos of him addressing some of these issues in depth, to clear the air, because right now everyone is confused, even his supporters. I can see the need to save money for later... but these issues have to be addressed somehow, through interviews, press releases, videos, commercials, some how some way, he needs to clarify all these issues so that people know where he stands.
32 posted on 09/26/2011 7:24:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Sacajaweau
It makes sense if you think about it.

It makes sense if you're a bleeding heart liberal, like Deval Patrick, governor of Massachusetts.

It does not make sense if you are a conservative.

33 posted on 09/26/2011 7:29:44 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Surfer Bert
Perry crashed and burned at the debate, he seemed like some arrogant child.

Yes, he did. He's just about lost me with his inarticulateness under fire. I want a president who can think on his feet and I haven't seen that from him yet.

Herman Cain is the only other candidate who enthuses me at the moment, but I'm not ready to give him my full support -- yet. There's plenty of time, though, and he can win my vote. Perry could still get it back, too, if he stops talking about Texas and comes up with a coherent illegal immigration policy.

34 posted on 09/26/2011 7:30:10 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: org.whodat

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40201035/ns/us_news-life


35 posted on 09/26/2011 7:30:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If you remember GW Bush in his early years wasn’t a good debater. Ann Richards said of Bush that he’d take four so issues, develop a solid responses and wear you out with them. Perry needs to do the same if he thinks and wants to continue.


36 posted on 09/26/2011 7:31:18 AM PDT by deport
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To: ConservativeDude

LOL, well, what does that tell ya?

At least she got a free breakfast.


37 posted on 09/26/2011 7:31:58 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Rudder

there is no candidate in the GOP who advocates rounding up, confining and deporting the tens of millions of illegals here now

NONE

Scratch Sarah Palin’s immigration policy and you’ll basically find registration of “guest workers”, pathway to eventual legalization, and citizenship pathways for their children - along with border controls

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Santorum, Hunstman- none gonna send back anyone who is here. Best you will see is border control and internal regisstration but with a path to citizenship

All of which is about the same as Perry


38 posted on 09/26/2011 7:38:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another Texas PROGRESSIVE who thinks it's just fine
to steal from Americans and give the money to criminals !


39 posted on 09/26/2011 7:38:06 AM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: deport
The Bush/Gore debates sold me on Bush. Knowledge and sincerity.

How lucky we were to have Bush and his Team on 9-11.

40 posted on 09/26/2011 7:38:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: indylindy

Yes, indeed. Some things about politics never change.

I remember having a bunch of friends who were Dole staffers in 1996 in the primary. They were sure sad when the Forbes campaign wound down, because so long as Forbes was in, they were always guaranteed a real breakfast and real lunch at events.....


41 posted on 09/26/2011 7:40:47 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Sacajaweau
State courts have no standing to decide federal law, heard that from some little old constitutional attorney, named Mark Levin.
42 posted on 09/26/2011 7:43:39 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Fawn
It is comically naive to think that immigration, of all things, could put paid to the Perry candidacy. The last three Republican nominations have gone to enthusiastic advocates of amnesty who routinely suggested that those who didn't share their views on immigration were racist. The idea that Rick Perry can't win after suggesting that it would be heartless to deny instate tuition at Texas universities to permanent resident illegals is just bizarre. The flap over instate tuition is a trivial distraction that can make some of us lose sight of the big picture for a while. It isn't going to determine the outcome of the primary process.

Many Conservatives are miffed about Perry's “no heart” remark. They'll get over it because they have no choice. Sane people don't make self-destructive decisions in a fit of personal pique. Backing any candidate currently in the race other than Governor Perry would be suicidal for conservatives.

Mitt is progressive and therefore a nonstarter. Nobody else in the field has either a presidential resume or a campaign organization capable of going all the way to the nomination. Congratulations to Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann on their straw poll wins. Winning straw polls can boost your speaking fees in years to come and generate many other opportunities, but they can't help you win a nomination. Just ask Pat Robertson and Ron Paul.

Michelle Bachmann won the Ames poll and promptly sank without a trace. (Is she still a candidate?) Herman Cain may get some attention, but he too will sink. Like Bachmann he isn't really in the game. When serious voters cast serious votes they will overwhelmingly cast them for the serious candidates.

Barring a late entry, the real choice is Romney vs. Perry. You can gnash your teeth about that all you want. It won't change a thing. In the end you will have to decide whether you want to continue our bipartisan string of progressive presidents and perpetuate their failure or try something significantly different.

Romney is the status quo. Perry isn't. He may not be different enough to save us from decline, but he offers some hope. Romney offers none. We get to choose whether we just stay the course and go over the falls or take our one chance to avoid it. Anyone who chooses to go over the falls because they're offended that Perry called them heartless is a lunatic, and there aren't that many conservative lunatics.

So go ahead, throw a nice cathartic tantrum. Burn up the bandwidth with your rage. Go out and try to get another candidate in the race who might make it a genuine race. Then settle down and do the serious work of nominating an acceptable conservative (almost certainly Perry) and beating Obama.

43 posted on 09/26/2011 7:44:01 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: Mr. K

I was listening to my local NPR station in my car this morning on my way to San Antonio. The local news reader said Perry came in a distant second to Romney in the FL straw poll. No mention of Cain the actual winner who got more votes than both Perry and Romney combined.


44 posted on 09/26/2011 7:46:19 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard the GOP primaries are no longer winner take - can anyone confirm?

Oh yeah, Rick Perry is toast ...


45 posted on 09/26/2011 7:46:19 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: SeekAndFind

WOW, I have never seen so much exaggeration of a meaningless event such as a straw poll.


46 posted on 09/26/2011 7:46:43 AM PDT by jgge
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To: Sacajaweau
A million guys have the same/similar resume.

Really? A million guys have:

  1. Worked as a rocket scientist
  2. Been head of IT for a major international corporation
  3. Have run and later owned a major restaurant chain
  4. Been Chairman of a Federal Reserve Bank

My own son was writing computer programs for missiles at age 27...including testing them in Alabama. Then there was his stint to install and teach "computer technology" in several countries....including Bahrain.

And what is the name of the major Restaurant chain he owns? What the name of the international corporation where he was the head of IT? Which Federal Reserve Bank was he the chairman of?

There may be a million guys that have one of these items on their resumes, but all of them? No, there are not a million guys with resumes like this.

Most people who have this type of success have it within a single field. It is extremely unusual for someone to switch between such unrealted career fields (computers, restaurant management, banking) and have this type of success.

There are in fact, only a handful of people with resumes like this.

47 posted on 09/26/2011 7:47:39 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain CAN Win)
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To: Sacajaweau
Actually Mark said a federal case should be brought against Texas by an out of state student demanding equal treatment, when they win, Texas would be on the hook to return all out of state tuition and offer a free education to any and everyone that had been harmed.
48 posted on 09/26/2011 7:47:39 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: fluffdaddy

Perry offers some hope alright. For amnesty and funding illegals health care, schooling...who knows....housing, transportation and most of all VOTING RIGHTS! ROMNEY is the best candidate so far.


49 posted on 09/26/2011 7:49:40 AM PDT by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!!)
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To: silverleaf

You are quite correct.

There is no one on the national political landscape who has a conservative border plan.

NO ONE.

Sadly, the border issue is not going to even be addressed in 2012.

Will the border issue destroy America? Damn right it will. But not immediately. We have maybe 8 years or so.

But the problem is that obama is doing much more short term damage to the country. 2014 is the deadline for getting rid of obamacare.

We have to prioritize among emergencies...and ousting obama is the first order of business, then trying to immediately undo what he has done: 1) obamacare, and 2) Dodd Frank.

Everything after that is great...including addressing the border. But that is not realistically on the agenda for the foreseeable future, because the GOP and the Democrats are basically in agreement that the country doesn’t want a border. Moreover, there is a substantial portion of the country - perhaps even a majority - who also believe the border should be non-existent.

The border is like AIDS. It is fatal. But it is not as rapidly fatal as obamacare. obamacare is like advanced brain, lung and liver cancer. We are dead much sooner if we don’t repeal it.

(And even if Palin is the “best” on the border [maybe, maybe not], it is not obvious that she is running...we’ll see what October brings, but it is still very much a question mark, and we can’t forget how many of us were lectured and hectored that it would obviously be August, then obviously be September since that is what she said....and September is winding down....)

We live in treacherous times and it seems like the left is using the chaos to steadily advance.


50 posted on 09/26/2011 7:50:47 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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