Posted on 09/26/2011 9:09:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
According to the survey, which was released Monday, 28 percent of Republicans and independents who lean towards the GOP say they support Perry as their party's presidential nominee, with Romney at 21 percent. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is at ten percent, with Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who's making his third bid for the White House, former Godfather's Pizza CEO and radio talk show host Herman Cain, and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, all at seven percent. The poll indicates that Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota is at four percent, with former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania at three percent and former Utah Gov. and ambassador to China Jon Huntsman at one percent.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the conservative movement, of the Republican party; we see the establishment stacking the deck. They give us a “choice” between a stuttering, stammering fool who insults 81% of the electorate or Mitt Romney and expect us to see this as an actual choice. The bastards. What the hell have they done to this movement, the party, this nation?
In the primary I beg you, vote for jobs. Vote for a steady hand. Vote for a REAL conservative that can string three coherent sentences together and lay out what conservatism is without drooling on himself.
Vote your heart. Vote Herman Cain.
WOW! A couple of you are really spoiling for a fight, aren’t you? Hope you find one, Junuior. :o)
Yes, we all know what CNN and the MSM and the GOP elitists think of their GOP Pick-Romney. He will suffer a deathly dirth of conservative votes and lose in the primaries, or in the real election, either way He’s a loser.
Perry, in my book is toast.
The point I'm trying to make is that people don't CARE about Texas' requirements for in-state tuition. That is a non-issue, as any poll of issues will show you. And whether a Vietnamese student pays in-state or out-of-state tution is of no consequence on the rest of America.
Perry did botch an attack on Romney, but that didn't do anything discount the record of Texas during this turd of an economy. We're creating jobs down here, and that's what people will focus on.
What? Did he purposefully not mention 'Callista' (for once)? Or, did he say he can't make the next debate because 'Callista' wants to go on a cruise after hitting Tiffany's? He was my congressman for years - I wouldn't vote for him if he were the nominee.
Bachmann and Santorum are Romney's allies. Romney can't attack Perry from the right but they can. They do it for him, either because they have a delusional belief that they can be serious conservative candidates or because they have some understanding with Romney.
Attacks on Perry from the right create a great disturbance in the conservative force because many of us are disappointed that fate is forcing us to settle for Perry. Many wanted Sarah and the bitter disappointment makes them susceptible to the attacks on Perry. All the disappointment boils up and expresses itself as fury.
This too shall pass. Romney can't benefit in the long run by trying to discredit Perry with conservatives. Sooner or later, everyone will notice that we face a binary choice and that Perry, for all his faults, is much closer to the conservative ideal than Romney.
All the attacks are just noise and it will die down soon enough.
The taxpayers aren't paying for their education. They must secure their own funding via private funds or a loan.
Bachmann and Santorum are Romney's allies. Romney can't attack Perry from the right but they can. They do it for him, either because they have a delusional belief that they can be serious conservative candidates or because they have some understanding with Romney.
Attacks on Perry from the right create a great disturbance in the conservative force because many of us are disappointed that fate is forcing us to settle for Perry. Many wanted Sarah and the bitter disappointment makes them susceptible to the attacks on Perry. All the disappointment boils up and expresses itself as fury.
This too shall pass. Romney can't benefit in the long run by trying to discredit Perry with conservatives. Sooner or later, everyone will notice that we face a binary choice and that Perry, for all his faults, is much closer to the conservative ideal than Romney.
All the attacks are just noise and it will die down soon enough.
Who would be enthused to come out and vote for Romney? Not only the base would be unenthused but independents as well wont be happy. The Republicans are going to nominate another rich, country club Repuclican who’s never had to worry about surviving in the real world.
The media and the Democrats are drooling over this scenario.
very intelligent response, and you summed up my feelings on the race perfectly.
Huntsman is less exciting than watching paint dry.
I totally agree. I predict within 2 weeks, Huntsman's poll numbers will TRIPLE, to 3%!
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BACKSTORY Perry connived his way into the presidential race----and you get the distinct feeling he connived his way into the governor's seat. That steady stream of illegals pouring into Texas tells us native-born Texans don't have much say in Senor Ricky's unbroken string of re/elections. The Texas Dream Act passed 10 years ago when Perry was desperate for votes---as Perry began a curious unbroken string of election wins. Senor Ricky gets away with mucho BS in Texas.
Perry's been described by some Texans as a kind of a Punxsutawney Phil. When it's time for election he's out there, campaigning, pushing all the right Texas buttons. After he's elected, he disappears into his cave until it's time to wake up again.
When he does that disappearing act, big-hearted Rick gets down to the real business of governance----enriching himself. As one Texas FReeper posted: "I live in Texas. Perry’s an embarrassment......an arrogant jerk who thinks the rest of us are heartless if we don’t agree with giving tax dollars to Illegals.......rather than helping actual Americans." Perry's got a lot of skeletons in his closet.
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PERRY SURFACES Perry did not officially enter the Iowa straw poll......but he calculatedly timed throwing his hat into the ring on the same day Bachman won the Iowa straw poll----stomping all over Bachman's hard-won victory. Perry cunningly manipulated the Iowa vote from Texas. That strategy was supposed to put him over the top. Instead he got a pathetic 700-800 write-ins ...while Iowa winners who did the right thing-—spending time and money there-—— got 4000 votes each. The Perrydactyl's were cued to "say" Ricky won Iowa.
And there was Perry---front and center---waving to Iowans, taking pics in front of prominent Iowa banners---manipulating the media to make it look like he was the winner.
The winner in his own mind.
I'm glad to see it, he's been talking substance and not taking the bait from press.
I posted that to you for others to read knowing you stance on Perry.
You are missing the bigger issue.
Rick Perry scolded the conservative viewing audience and called us heartless if we didn't agree with him. No thanks--I'm adult who has been treated like an errant step-child and scolded enough already by the current liberal POTUS. Enough already. I want an adult POTUS who listens to the voters and treats us like the adults he serves.
But I would never under ANY circumstances vote for Romney.
My feelings on Romney are much deeper than my feelings against McCain ever were, I felt McCain was a traitor to the conservative cause, but with Romney ... wow, seriously there is not 1 major issue I agree with him on, abortion? 2nd amendment? environment? healthcare? gays? taxes? regulation? nope nope nope nope nope. And I know some may have a problem with this, but I could never under any circumstances vote for a Mormon for president.
You didn’t mention Perry calling 81% of the electorate “heartless.”
Why not?
CNN.
That says it all.
A loan from whom?
The issue is how many of them have turned away from him, and the answer is a huge number UNLESS they get driven back into his camp.
I hate perrys’ position on that, hate it!
However - getting rid of Obama is far more important to me.
____________________________________________________________Well, I hate to tell you this but, Obama will mop the floor with Perry in the Debates. Perry is as dumb as a coal bucket in the Debates.
I was thinking the same. How many even knew there was a poll? LOL
I think Perry likes Cain too. These two could do some good things.
I would also ask all Perry supporters to avoid bad mouthing Cain. He will get all the bad mouthing he can handle if he looks like a threat to Palin and he will need all of us to defend the lies and smears that may come his way from that camp.
I agree, with the exception of Romney we need to stay focused on the true enemy Obama.
According to the poll, the president's overall approval rating, at 45 percent, is essentially unchanged since July. Fifty-two percent of all Americans disapprove of his job performance to date. Obama's ace-in-the-hole remains the fact that he is personally more popular than his policies. According to the poll, his favorable rating, which measures reactions to him personally, is eight points higher than his job approval rating. Fifty-two percent of all Americans disagree with him on issues, but 58 percent believe he has the personality and leadership qualities a president should have. And by a 49 to 43 percent margin, Americans say that personal qualities are more important than issues to their vote for president.
Adult voters is how you skew polls because the majority of them don’t vote. A more interesting breakdown would be how the Republican LIKELY voters voted. In these polls, Herman does really well.
You are very mistaken. The money comes from Government grants and/or scholarships which rightly belong to the American populace and should benefit the American populace.
The Catholic Church teaches that immigrants MUST RESPECT THE RULES OF THEIR HOST COUNTRY.
That means they can’t come and take without legal entrance.
Perry is my last in line for pics for POTUS.
You’re correct. I’ve said multiple times that I have not been impressed with Perry but if he can turn it around and such then so be it. I would easily vote for him over Obama.
The taxpayers are subsidizing the in-state rates via the taxes they’ve paid to the state in order to create and maintain the schools.
Unless there is substantive proof that the illegals have been paying into the system, the taxpayers are paying for this.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/217573/illegal-advantage/peter-kirsanow
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33863.pdf
(Yes, I know I'm being totally superficial, but darn it, he IS a hunk!)
BASED ON 447 REPUBLICANS -- SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE PTS.
26. Next, I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Republican primary for president
in 2012. After I read all the names, please tell me which candidate you would be most likely to
support for the Republican nomination for President in the year 2012, or if you would support
someone else. Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, businessman Herman Cain, former
Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, former Alaska
Governor Sarah Palin, Texas Congressman Ron Paul, Texas Governor Rick Perry, former
Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, or former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum
(RANDOM ORDER)
Sept. Sept. Aug. Aug. July
18-20 23-25 9-11 24-25 5-7
Perry 28% 30% 30% 16% 15%
Romney 21% 18% 17% 19% 19%
Gingrich 10% 5% 6% 6% 4%
Cain 7% 5% 3% 4% 6%
Palin 7% 15% 12% 16% 15%
Paul 7% 12% 6% 12% 10%
Bachmann 4% 4% 10% 7% 12%
Santorum 3% 2% 1% 2% 2%
Huntsman 1% 2% 1% 5% 1%
Someone else 3% 2% 6% 6% 5%
(vol.)
None/No one 4% 4% 6% 5% 9%
(vol.)
No opinion 2% 2% 2% 2% 2%
27. And who would be your second choice?
Perry 30% 32% 32% 18% 17%
Romney 22% 21% 18% 23% 22%
Gingrich 11% 7% 7% 8% 5%
Cain 9% 6% 3% 5% 7%
Paul 7% 13% 6% 14% 12%
Bachmann 6% 7% 12% 9% 14%
Santorum 3% 2% 1% 3% 2%
Huntsman 1% 2% 1% 5% 1%
Someone else 3% 2% 4% 5% 7%
(vol.)
None/No one 5% 4% 6% 5% 10%
(vol.)
No opinion 3% 3% 4% 4% 2%
Results indicate the second choice for respondents who chose Palin.
Yes, he is and is 61 years old. IF Abe Lincoln was running for President...he’d never win...unfortunately today is what people look at.
>>>>wrong, because this poll asked “adult americans” who they’d vote for...not many likely voters. It is bunk.<<<<
About 90% of those “adult Americans” self-identified as “registered voter”.
From the internals of the poll.....
Interviews with 1,010 adult Americans conducted by telephone
by ORC International on September 23-25, 2011. The margin of
sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or
minus 3 percentage points. The sample also includes 917
interviews among registered voters (plus or minus 3 percentage
points).
The sample includes 807 interviews among landline respondents
and 203 interviews among cell phone respondents.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/09/26/rel16a-1a.pdf
The poll asked Republican registered voters about their choice for the Republican nominee.
Gingrich isn’t my top choice in the GOP field, but I’d love to see him match up mano-a-mano with Obama in a debate.
I don’t find that man sexually attractive in the last.
If I did, it wouldn’t matter. I didn’t choose my own husband based on physical attraction. I’ll be damned if that influences my political decision-making.
The Central Valle TEA Party in Texas has a view on Perry that I think all should consider.
Gov. Rick Perry supports North American Union
http://www.centralvalleyteaparty.com/video/gov-rick-perry-supports-north?xg_source=activity
Here’s another article about Rick Perry and the North American Union and the Trans Texas Corridor.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14229
Quess who is trying to get you to believe that the TTC (Trans Texas Corridor) is a myth? You may have guessed it but its: http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version That’s right! Media Matters. Now why would they not want you to know that there is anything such as the TTC? Hmmmm!
I wonder if the TTC is just a myth what is Perry was talking about when he was describing the TTC in this video. He and the President of Mexico tell how it will come from Mexico to Canada like Vicente Fox explains in this same video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdhph3pwXk
Perry even vetoed a bill that would have protected the rights of land and homeowners. By vetoing that bill he left open the possibility of confiscating the land to use for the TTC.
Rick Perry is not who we need leading this country.
Perry was horrible in these debates and has an untenable position on immigration educational policy. His vaccination decision looks silly. On and on.
Obama is salivating over having Perry to run against. That’s why is most polls, even as brutal as Obama is he still leads Perry comfortably. He is not salivating to run against Christie, Romney and some others...they are simply tougher matchups for him. Perry won’t reach as many independents if he supports things like $100K giveaways for children of illegal immigrants.
Perry better find something quick because he reminds me of someone that clearly hit his nadir until he actually opened his mouth and faced the cameras. Not a lot there between the temples.
Disagree....polls also disagree. Romney running ahead of Obama in some places, and in a statistical dead heat on Rasmussen which has always been the gold standard used here at FreeRepublic. Now, all of a sudden it’s not? Seems strange.
Perry trails Obama nearly everywhere in a hypothetical matchup.
Aggregate polls below. Romney vs Obama. Perry vs Obama
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_perry_vs_obama-2701.html
What gets me is that Perry has held his stance on in-state tuition for undocumented children since 2001.
Now they come after him?
Seems to me my Governor sticks by his guns on most issues and doesn’t waver. When the public tells him he’s absolutley wrong on a subject, he backs down.
I find that pretty damn refreshing.
And because Newt and Cain have not been attacked by a single candidate or moderator. Softball questions for the most part.
When these moderators decided to pit Romney and Santorum and Bachmann and Paul against Perry, this is what skewed a few things and turned people off. Turned people off of every single one of them. Cain and Gingrich have not been asked to pile on, and have both avoided the temptation to do so.
I think this is a huge reason for their recent upswing. They both also probably want a VP bid down the line if this doesn’t work out. Santorum and the others have stated they’re not interested. And thus they feel free to go on the attack.
my .02
Its funny how a person like yourself can contort a national poll and make it into a conspiracy simply because you do not like the results of said poll.
“The taxpayers are subsidizing the in-state rates via the taxes they’ve paid to the state in order to create and maintain the schools.”
Well, the state of Texas has one and only one tax that everybody pays - a sales tax. So guess what. Illegals who live there pay the exact same percentage of taxes as everybody else pays.
From Uncle Truong or Aunt Nghiem. I don't particularly care where the student gets his/her loan.
It is the media’s alternative to Zero.
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