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Ailes: Palin Was a ‘Branding Issue’
DailyBeast ^ | 09/26/11 | staff

Posted on 09/26/2011 11:12:27 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Could Fox News be moving away from the right? As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering, Fox News chief Roger Ailes is making what he calls a “course correction.” Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin “became a bit of a branding issue for us,” he tells Howard Kurtz in Newsweek. Republican candidates still consult Ailes: when Rick Perry was still weighing a presidential bid, he stopped by Ailes's office and confided he was worried about being able to raise money, and Mitt Romney took Ailes out for a pasta dinner. But Ailes also engineered the Republican primary debate for maximum reality-television conflict, aiming tough questions geared toward the weaknesses of each candidate and prompting them to tear into each other.

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So there will be no doubt....and wait the tea party is breaking up? Really....stupid libs....lol
1 posted on 09/26/2011 11:12:30 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper; Virginia Ridgerunner

U might want to see this....


2 posted on 09/26/2011 11:13:26 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Should be barf alert.


3 posted on 09/26/2011 11:14:36 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: winoneforthegipper
CONNECTING THE DOTS

Fox News chief Roger Ailes ----> Chris Wallace RomneyBOT

Fox News chief Roger Ailes ----> Hyper-biased FOX NEWS ProRomney Panel on Sundays

Fox News chief Roger Ailes ----> McGinniss has been friends with Roger Ailes for 44 years

Conclusion: SMELLS LIKE MITT AGAIN

4 posted on 09/26/2011 11:15:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ailes wishes the tea party would fade. Wish away, we’re hear to stay. If Perry and Romney are really kissing up to Ailes, they can kiss us goodbye. We don’t need yes men.


5 posted on 09/26/2011 11:16:02 AM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: winoneforthegipper

I haven’t watched Fox a lot during Obama’s presidency.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 11:16:19 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: winoneforthegipper
ailes, murdoch and the entire network are and have been progressives... and they want to become the new progressively admired and trusted network... they both hate being talked down to at DC cocktail parties.

LLS

7 posted on 09/26/2011 11:18:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: winoneforthegipper

IMHO She is running...this is positioning for her departure so they can be “fair and balanced” in both attacking and promoting her.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 11:18:42 AM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: winoneforthegipper
Could Fox News The Daily Bestiality be moving away from the right?
9 posted on 09/26/2011 11:18:42 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

***Could Fox News be moving away from the right?***

The better question is: ‘Have they ever been there in the first place?’


10 posted on 09/26/2011 11:19:59 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Notice what is and is not in quotes from Ailes.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 11:20:16 AM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“As the Tea Party’s popularity fades...”

Huh?


12 posted on 09/26/2011 11:24:27 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: winoneforthegipper

“As the Tea Party’s popularity fades...”

Huh? I’m thinking this is wishful thinking.


13 posted on 09/26/2011 11:25:00 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: winoneforthegipper

Geraldo Rivera, Sheperd Smith, Alan Colmes, Great Van Sustern, Kristen Powers, Bob Betchel, and Chris Wallace...

Fox News has more prominent liberals than MSNBC.

The whole idea that Fox News is a right wing propaganda machine is laughable. It just seems that way because they actually feature a few conservatives with their own shows. Fair and Balanced is a marketing gimmick to get you to watch.

Don’t.


14 posted on 09/26/2011 11:25:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: An American!

Yep that was what I meant by “So there would be no doubt”...lol

Great minds!....lol


15 posted on 09/26/2011 11:26:11 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Translation: Ailes doesn’t want crony capitalism to suffer the blow of a Palin Presidency.


16 posted on 09/26/2011 11:26:27 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale." It's true. Watch The Undefeated.)
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To: Linda Frances

“Ailes wishes the tea party would fade. Wish away, we’re hear to stay. If Perry and Romney are really kissing up to Ailes, they can kiss us goodbye. We don’t need yes men.”

AMEN!!


17 posted on 09/26/2011 11:27:16 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2783826/posts


18 posted on 09/26/2011 11:27:31 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As the LSM meme becomes, "As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering," Ailes sells out conservatives.

There, fixed...

19 posted on 09/26/2011 11:27:41 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Diogenesis

Foxnews is more Republican than Conservative. They backed Rudy last election and this election they are backing Romney.

Nothing wrong with that, but just be aware of their bias and broadcast it to those that believe everything they say.


20 posted on 09/26/2011 11:29:02 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: iowamark

Ahh sorry kristinn did not tag it Palin, so it did not come up in the search....

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 09/26/2011 11:29:35 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Linda Frances

Ailes didn’t say any of the things you suckers are braying about. Howard Kurtz said those things. Fall for leftist spin much? You could read the Newsweek piece for yourself and see what Ailes did and didn’t say, but that would be a hassle I guess.


22 posted on 09/26/2011 11:30:40 AM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: piytar

Fox can find out how fast they can become has been’s. I don’t know any conservative who really relies on the Networks or Cable for their news. When and if we watch we watch Fox,,but it can go zero with no impact on us.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 11:30:54 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Diogenesis
Conclusion: SMELLS LIKE MITT AGAIN

Euwww, it's dog mitt.


24 posted on 09/26/2011 11:30:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: winoneforthegipper

I think Beck pulled out of Fox at the right time. I think Beck was seeing the shift of fax before a lot of have.


25 posted on 09/26/2011 11:32:53 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Politics4US

The question really is . . .

Is Fox leaving the “Conservative” Republican Party, or is the “Conservative” Republican [Tea] Party leaving Fox.


26 posted on 09/26/2011 11:32:54 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: Castigar
I thought so too




27 posted on 09/26/2011 11:33:54 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (A lie told over and over again is still just a lie and the one telling it a liar.)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As the Tea Party's popularity fades

Who just won the Florida Straw Poll?

28 posted on 09/26/2011 11:38:09 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: MichaelCorleone

“The better question is: ‘Have they ever been there in the first place?”

No. It’s all about “positioning.” Fox is labeled as “right wing” by the left because to acknowledge they have a much more even keel coverage would be akin to admitting the extreme leftist bias of the alphabet soup stations.

In order to protect their propaganda arm the left will label anyone that isn’t in the bag for the left as right wing extremists........whether that is the case or not. In FOX’s case NOT.


29 posted on 09/26/2011 11:39:34 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As the Tea Party's popularity fades...

Nothing like telegraphing your punches, or it's literary equivalent: Poisoning the Well.

30 posted on 09/26/2011 11:40:48 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Exactly. I saw Bill Maher the other day ripping into Megyn Kelly from the debate; saying she was a right wing air head. Too funny. I guess he hasn't watched Megyn much.
31 posted on 09/26/2011 11:43:00 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering...

That's hilarious!

32 posted on 09/26/2011 11:43:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Has Palin tendered her resignation to run for President or .....?


33 posted on 09/26/2011 11:48:49 AM PDT by deport
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To: winoneforthegipper

If Ailes thinks he’s going to succeed as just another liberal news station, spewing the same gunk as CNN, ABC, See-BS, etc, he’s wrong.

He will loose to those stations in the ratings because the bulk of FOX’ supporters will abandon him.

I smell a Romney/Chris Christie conspiracy stinking up what was once a “fair and balanced” network.

The frequency of appearnces by those two shmoos Dana Perrino and Karl Rove as well as the rhetoric of people like Kraphammer and Crystal and Hume point to this.


34 posted on 09/26/2011 11:50:03 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Rational Thought; kara2008; Immerito; Students4Palin; Ladysmith; EnglishCon; thouworm; ...

(((((PING)))))


35 posted on 09/26/2011 11:50:15 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Why would any conservative politician seek candidacy advice from anyone in the media? Fox News might have more conservative talking heads (and I stress, might!) than the other outlets, but to seek out advice from anyone in the media seems a death nell to a candidate’s chances for victory IMO.


36 posted on 09/26/2011 11:50:15 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: An American!
...this is positioning for her departure so they can be “fair and balanced” in both attacking and promoting her.

That was my first thought, too.

37 posted on 09/26/2011 11:53:17 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Diogenesis; winoneforthegipper

Ailes is trying to play some sort of kingmaker game. I think that Sarah Palin caught on to him very early on and refused to be manipulated by him, and that’s why Fox has behaved like it has since Tucson.


38 posted on 09/26/2011 11:53:20 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: jessduntno
Could The Daily Bestiality be moving away from the right?

Weren't they the people who bought Newsweek for $1?

39 posted on 09/26/2011 11:55:29 AM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--GAME ON!!!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I rarely watch Fox. I rarely watch the news.


Run Sarah, run!

40 posted on 09/26/2011 11:56:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ZULU

“He will loose to those stations in the ratings because the bulk of FOX’ supporters will abandon him.”

unfortunately shep smith does pretty well


41 posted on 09/26/2011 11:56:56 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

He confirms that O’Reilly hates Sean Hannity. I could tell that they didn’t get along, because the last time they ever did anything together was when O’Reilly promoted his book on Hannity’s radio show, which was in 2001. After that O’Reilly tried radio, and competed against Hannity in NY.


42 posted on 09/26/2011 11:57:06 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Linda Frances
If Perry and Romney are really kissing up to Ailes, they can kiss us goodbye. We don’t need yes men.

Do they have $1 Mil a year contracts with Ailes?

43 posted on 09/26/2011 11:59:20 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: ari-freedom

Shep is a big time lib. It first showed during the Persian Gulf War.

I like Harris Falkner, Gretchen Carlson, Steeve Doocey, Hannity and Molly Hanneberg.


44 posted on 09/26/2011 12:00:18 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I know about the others, but is Van Sustern a lib too?


45 posted on 09/26/2011 12:01:47 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Who knows...who cares me done with fox news.

Really the twitter world has encompassed the rightwing theory much better than Fox and more to the point and descriptive than fox could ever be....!

As for breaking news....there is no better coverage than CNN for the first few days before the political slant weighs in so I am good...lol


46 posted on 09/26/2011 12:03:10 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper; Huck
Huck was right, the Newsweek article that this Beast article is hawking is mostly innuendo by the author, NOT a quote from Ailes.

For example, here is the actual Newsweek sentence from which the title of this thread supposedly takes it's support: Glenn Beck’s inflammatory rhetoric—his ranting about Obama being a racist—“became a bit of a branding issue for us” before the hot-button host left in July, Ailes says

Note: It is about Glenn Beck. It was the author that then threw in that Palin was "also" a branding issue, even though they don't quote Ailes as saying that. And given that Palin still works for Fox, it seems clear Ailes doesn't see her as an issue -- he's had her critiquing the debates for his network, after all.

There is some pretty disturbing stuff about how the fox debate folks conspired to cause trouble between the candidates; no mention that Palin was involved in that.

Meanwhile, here's a quote from Newsweek that belies the notion that Ailes is turning to the left, or to moderation: How do we know they were worshiping?” he demands. “I think the AP is so far over the hill, they’ve become left wing, antiwar. Gotta watch their copy.”

Here's another that clearly puts him on the side of ending "crony capitalism", far from the hysterical claims of some posting here that he is trying to trash Palin to protect crony capitalism:

“Are our producers on board on this ‘Regulation Nation’ stuff? Are they ginned up and ready to go?” Ailes, who claims to be “hands off” in developing the series, later boasts that “no other network will cover that subject … I think regulations are totally out of control,” he adds, with bureaucrats hiring Ph.D.s to “sit in the basement and draw up regulations to try to ruin your life.” It is a message his troops cannot miss.

And here's just a FUNNY attack on Bill O'Reilly: Ailes says O’Reilly has “moderated” his views and that “Beck scared him”—meaning Beck was so popular on the right that O’Reilly had to find a different niche.

Also: Ailes seems to relish the feuding among his stars, saying, “O’Reilly hates Sean and he hates Rush because they did better in radio than he did.”)

Kurtz knew which buttons to press on the right, throwing in some unsupported "Ailes Attacks Palin" comments, and it got the predictable but unfortunate response from some of the Palin supporters, who didn't consider the source and look for themselves.

47 posted on 09/26/2011 12:06:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alas Babylon!
The whole idea that Fox News is a right wing propaganda machine is laughable. It just seems that way because they actually feature a few conservatives with their own shows. Fair and Balanced is a marketing gimmick to get you to watch.

I've always maintained that FOX News isn't conservative, they're just not as overtly liberal as the other networks.

48 posted on 09/26/2011 12:11:29 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

You left out Juan Williams.


49 posted on 09/26/2011 12:11:29 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: winoneforthegipper
"....and wait the tea party is breaking up?"

This has been the talking point from libs, squishy GOP types, emails from lib friends and the LSM for about the last six weeks. One thing they do is stick to the talking points, wheather based in reality or not.

50 posted on 09/26/2011 12:12:31 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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