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Ailes: Palin Was a ‘Branding Issue’
DailyBeast ^ | 09/26/11 | staff

Posted on 09/26/2011 11:12:27 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Could Fox News be moving away from the right? As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering, Fox News chief Roger Ailes is making what he calls a “course correction.” Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin “became a bit of a branding issue for us,” he tells Howard Kurtz in Newsweek. Republican candidates still consult Ailes: when Rick Perry was still weighing a presidential bid, he stopped by Ailes's office and confided he was worried about being able to raise money, and Mitt Romney took Ailes out for a pasta dinner. But Ailes also engineered the Republican primary debate for maximum reality-television conflict, aiming tough questions geared toward the weaknesses of each candidate and prompting them to tear into each other.

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To: winoneforthegipper

Yeah, it’s just such a branding problem having hosts that people want to watch, isn’t it?


51 posted on 09/26/2011 12:14:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I know—the ACTUAL Ailes quotes in the piece are hilarious.


52 posted on 09/26/2011 12:16:38 PM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

We need a REAL Conservative News Channel... not a RINO big gubmint knobrubber network.


53 posted on 09/26/2011 12:17:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ailes just runnin’ scared of obama, like everyone else.


54 posted on 09/26/2011 12:18:13 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: winoneforthegipper

AND AILES IS RUSH LIMBAUGHS FRIEND?

Or has he turned on Rush too.


55 posted on 09/26/2011 12:18:42 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Diogenesis

Annoying keyword spamming is annoying.


56 posted on 09/26/2011 12:21:25 PM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, impeach we much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It can’t be that bad if Sarah Palin lets her name be associated with it, and collects large paychecks working for it.

Would she really associate herself and take money from a RINO big gubmint knobrubber network? Doesn’t seem like that would be in-character for her.


57 posted on 09/26/2011 12:21:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alas Babylon!; onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; ...

Not hating this from Ailes..

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“(Ailes seems to relish the feuding among his stars, saying, “O’Reilly hates Sean and he hates Rush because they did better in radio than he did.”)

Ailes keeps a wary eye on anchor Shepard Smith, who occasionally backs aspects of the Obama record: “Every once in a while Shep Smith gets out there where the buses don’t run and we have a friendly talk.”

And Ailes likes to tease O’Reilly: “You gonna suck up to Obama so you can get another interview at the next football game?”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/09/25/roger-ailes-repositions-fox-news.html

Whatever the criticism, thank God there IS Roger Ailes and FNC. Just consider the morass of non-stop news twisting and outright political propagandizing 15-20 yrs. ago.


58 posted on 09/26/2011 12:22:22 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

bump.


59 posted on 09/26/2011 12:28:01 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Wow, who knew FOX was right wing...?
pffffffffffffff
Freegards,
Lex
btw...’cept for Cavuto I dont care much for FOX at all.


60 posted on 09/26/2011 12:28:51 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: ZULU; murron

OK.

See post # 49 above. Replace Van Sustern with Juan Williams.

Thanks, murron!


61 posted on 09/26/2011 12:29:16 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Fox “News” needs her a lot more than she needs them.


62 posted on 09/26/2011 12:29:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering...

The whole purpose of the piece is to promote this leftist lie.

63 posted on 09/26/2011 12:42:56 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: throwback
“I saw Bill Maher the other day ripping into Megyn Kelly from the debate; saying she was a right wing air head.”

I would love to see Megyn Kelly beat the daylights out of that punk Maher. She is smarter than him, more articulate and I'm sure she could mop up the floor with him.

The only problem is that a punk like Maher would probably like it. It wouldn't surprise me if Maher pays women a lot uglier than Megyn to tie him up and spank him.

64 posted on 09/26/2011 12:46:10 PM PDT by detective
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To: Politics4US
After that O’Reilly tried radio, and competed against Hannity in NY.

As I recall he jumped into radio when Rush lost his hearing.

65 posted on 09/26/2011 12:49:26 PM PDT by itsahoot (The MSM will not pick my candidate--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run.--)
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To: GraceG

I just heard an ad for GBTV this morning. It talked about getting the truth even if there’s a sacred cow standing in the way. Talked about there being “no filters” to keep out the truth. Methinks Glenn Beck has pondered Fox’s giving in to Obama’s lawyers when they told Ailes they would annihilate the parent company through FCC and anti-monopoly measures if anybody reported on Obama’s eligibility. Beck dutifully (and with great relish, as a good actor) ridiculed the “birthers” but that had to stick in his craw and it seems like maybe he’s seeing that the country is sunk if we have a media that is threatened into silence.

What other “sacred cow” would Beck be referring to? Is there reason to believe he was forbidden to talk about any other issue? He’s put out some hard-hitting stuff and the only issue I ever felt like he held back on was the eligibility issue. Yet the words he’s using in his ads says he know there was a “sacred cow”.

I doubt that Beck would admit it, but having his parent company threatened by Obama and then being told what he could and couldn’t discuss had to have stuck in his craw. I’ve been saying for a long time that none of the corruption will change until the lying media is called out for its lies and we have a REAL alternative, that can’t be bought or threatened into lying to us. I’m glad to see Beck realizing this as well. I do wish he’d come out with the truth about Obama’s eligibility, though, and the threats that Fox and other media companies were issued. I wish he’d come right out and say that he made fun of us because he was told he had to, or else his little ones might be killed.


66 posted on 09/26/2011 12:52:11 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: winoneforthegipper

Well it`s not a surprise to learn that Fox is moving away from the right, they did this some time ago. Even though it is NOT TRUE that the Tea Party is fading, Fox News has no Tea Party panelists on FNS or Special Report or Fox 5 as far as I am concerned.I have always said, Fox acts as though 2010 never happened. Why no Tea Party panelists, I always asked.

Shawn Hannity is it I would say that includes Tea Party folks on his panel.

Special Report has NONE, FNS has none

I do not believe anything Newsweek says, I know this first hand from watching Fox, I am not in need of Newsweak to tell me this, that Fox has moved to the left. They have had a leftist poll since the early 2000`s

Now If Ailes really said this to Kurtz (they give it quotes) and he really said WAS as in past tense he must have reason to believe that she is leaving Fox? I can not see Sarah trusting him with this info, he probably sees the tea leaves as we do...OF COURSE SHE IS RUNNING!

Fox is a joke with few exceptions! It was great for quite a few years, but has moved left without question, it pains me to say they are now a joke in many ways.


67 posted on 09/26/2011 12:52:34 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Diogenesis

WELL SAID. I would only add....

Special Report panel is the same as FNS


68 posted on 09/26/2011 12:54:27 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Huck

What about the panelists on FNS and Special Report? The Tea Party is only spoken of in the third person. Charles Krauthammer, The Weekly Standard, National Review....

Charles K, Steve Hayes all said months ago that Romney was their candidate, I was watching.

Jonah Goldberg says the GOP needs to “give up on it`s pro life family values platform, so we can start winning elections again” I heard him say that, these are the people they want on their programs.

Fox News Opinion Dynamics poll (out of Manchester NH) has been trying to sabotage Republicans for years, they tried to throw the 2004 election to Kerry with their last poll taken over Halloween weekend.

The evidence is overwhelming that they have moved to the left and quite some time ago. It is very clear to me, and I do not need Newsweak to tell me this.

I do not need Newsweak to tell me that Fox has moved to the left, they have done this some time ago.


69 posted on 09/26/2011 1:04:41 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As the Tea Party's popularity fades

Ailes is not dummy. There is no way that he actually believes that the Tea Party PRINCIPLES are losing favor. Those principles are, IMHO, gaining in popularity as Obama does the fading. But Ailes probably does recognize the power of the MSM to demonize anything they can name. And they can name the Tea Party. So they have had some success with that. The chance the Dems have to translate that into votes is, also IMHO, next to nothing. Republicans will run on Tea Party principles and those are very popular and, in fact, gaining in popularity.

70 posted on 09/26/2011 1:11:04 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: winoneforthegipper

With the exception of Glenn Becks program, fox news had already drifted to the left. When a saudi-mite took such a massive stake in the company, it was inevitable.

Overall, they are no better than msnbc in my opinion.

At least the ‘net still has a few small bastions of reliable news remaining, for now.


71 posted on 09/26/2011 1:15:36 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ailes isn’t a “lib,” he’s a global socialist.


72 posted on 09/26/2011 1:32:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: Huck

I can’t explain why, but I think that Ailes and Limbaugh have drifted apart. It may have something to do with the branding issue.


73 posted on 09/26/2011 1:34:00 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: filbert

“Weren’t they the people who bought Newsweek for $1?”

Screwed, eh?


74 posted on 09/26/2011 2:12:07 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Finny
Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin “became a bit of a branding issue for us,

That sure does sound like past tense and painting Sarah "gone" along with Beck.

75 posted on 09/26/2011 2:35:16 PM PDT by WVNan (!)
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To: ZULU

If Ailes thinks he’s going to succeed as just another liberal news station, spewing the same gunk as CNN, ABC, See-BS, etc, he’s wrong.


With no conservatives watching Fox, who does Ailes thinks will watch? When Palin gets the nomination, Fox won’t have a horse in the race and will be irrelevant.


76 posted on 09/26/2011 2:38:14 PM PDT by excopconservative
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As the Tea Party’s popularity fades....


Lost me at that point.


77 posted on 09/26/2011 2:44:34 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Ditto. I heard when she was on her bus (RV) tour in NYC, Ailes had her come in for a talk. He found out in no uncertain terms nobody tells Sarah Palin to go sit in the corner and be quite. Word I got it was quite a dust up betwixt the two.
78 posted on 09/26/2011 3:06:10 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: ari-freedom
“unfortunately shep smith does pretty well”

Lefties have loved Shep since Katrina, he won their hearts with his Mascara stained tears streaming down his faux drama queen face.

79 posted on 09/26/2011 3:11:48 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: winoneforthegipper
“Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin “became a bit of a branding issue for us..”

Well Roger ol son, Faux News has become quite a problem for me as of late. I can very easily see bidding adios to you and yours.

80 posted on 09/26/2011 3:16:48 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Huck
Notice what is and is not in quotes from Ailes.

Nah! Why spoil the fun of assuming that a liberal rag like the "Daily Beast" is fair and accurate. Let's just jump to the worst conclusion possible. Ailes is a RINO!!!!!

Beck wanted to leave Fox and Sarah hasn't. What else does anyone really need to know.

81 posted on 09/26/2011 3:26:47 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: winoneforthegipper
Hanity is the only self professed conservative who has a stand alone show on Faux. And truthfully, there are times I have my doubts about Hanity.
82 posted on 09/26/2011 3:30:26 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Castigar
As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering

Both of these are wishful thinking.

83 posted on 09/26/2011 3:38:19 PM PDT by anoldafvet (15 months until we're rid of "President Downgrade")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks STARWISE.
Could Fox News be moving away from the right? As the Tea Party's popularity fades and the country grows increasingly tired of partisan bickering...
...the partisan media shills will continue to serve up a steady piss-stream of op-eds and other fake news showing that only a small groups of angry, dangerous racists are against a monopartisan political structure.


84 posted on 09/26/2011 3:54:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oldexpat
FOX is a news station. It isn't supposed to promote your candidate. There are lots of overly sensitive people watching FOX and gasping when someone’s eyebrows rise in a curious fashion.
85 posted on 09/26/2011 3:55:30 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: CharlesWayneCT

MOST of FOX is UNWATCHABLE!! I do watch The Five but mute it when Beckel talks and Dana PeRINO spouts her squishyness.


86 posted on 09/26/2011 5:28:36 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

MOST of FOX is UNWATCHABLE!! I do watch The Five but mute it when Beckel talks and Dana PeRINO spouts her squishyness.


87 posted on 09/26/2011 5:28:40 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: detective

Megyn’s gone LEFT and RUDE!


88 posted on 09/26/2011 5:30:46 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
We need a REAL Conservative News Channel...

One of my dreams has been for Rush to buy out CNN and change the name to the Conservative News Network. Sadly Rush hasn't listened to me. So far.

89 posted on 09/26/2011 5:38:23 PM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Excellent!

You have a rare gift of seeing the trees for the forest!


90 posted on 09/26/2011 5:53:25 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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To: McGruff

Think of the costs alone of having to fumigate the joint... and the exorcisms.


91 posted on 09/26/2011 5:54:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Ann Archy

I hate screaming talking heads, so I don’t watch any of the news outlets, including FOX.


92 posted on 09/26/2011 5:58:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Huck
Notice what is and is not in quotes from Ailes.

Yes let's take a look.

“course correction.”...“became a bit of a branding issue for us,”

Yes, who needs full context when one can invent their own.

93 posted on 09/26/2011 6:26:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Friendofgeorge
I don't want Fox News, so I have no idea what the talkers on their shows are saying. I watched it back in the early 2000s, though. You think the Fox All-Stars would be tea partiers?? Really?

Anyway, I am a big fan of Ailes. I think he's very good at what he does, and I'm always interested in what he has to say. I don't really care for his product, simply because I don't care for television. But I respect Ailes as a creative and successful businessman. I don't appreciate Howie Kurtz at all.

94 posted on 09/26/2011 7:05:07 PM PDT by Huck (But the glass IS half-empty!)
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To: Huck

I used to believe some years ago that Fox was fair and balanced, so yes I would have expected that they would include more than just the view points of of the Republican Establishment and the Democrat party. Especially after 2010 elections etc.


95 posted on 09/26/2011 7:15:47 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: winoneforthegipper; All

Ailes is just part of the “squishy middle” - or the elitest GOP.

I’m sure he shrinks from people like Beck or Palin.

Funny though, he’s a big fan of Rush Limbaugh - at least according to Rush. But .. that doesn’t mean I believe Rush is unaware of Ailes’ “moderate” leanings.


96 posted on 09/27/2011 6:27:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: detective

I’m not sure it would be women he’d be paying.


97 posted on 09/28/2011 10:16:40 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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