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Obama Proposes Adding ‘Unemployed’ to Protected Status
New York Times ^ | September 26, 2011 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 09/26/2011 11:29:43 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: mc5cents
Hey, I’m unemployed, well actually retired, but UNEMPLOYED. Does this mean that I am now a “protected class”? Oh goody. What do I get? Trips like on Wheel of Fortune?

Hey me too. Maybe the Jerry Springer show or a cool HOUSEMATES from Hell" show. You know pooping where the outhouse should be( the new Joisey pool room or peeing in the hot tub" Damun never seen such a crappse this size, guess the guy is really fat , well what the hey'ziiiiip") starting a fire in the living room tearing apart all the furniture for kindling and dumpster diving the neighbors homes! Damun that would be fun fun fun.I hope maybe they'll give us low income housing welfare and a mercedes like I've seen( never rec'd welfare BUT I seen them illegals and others dropped off in RICH cars, all living with the best Kaker gears , 200+ tennis shoes, and them cares, jiguars and Mercedes and beemers and there I was photographing until some guy wanted to break my cameras...but maybe they'll give us the "big house' and a mercedes LOL. But hell I'll setttle for a Beemer wouldn't you..heh protected class? Do we get to go to museums for free? Can we protest with the muzzies...i mean plant bombs in Dearborn and stuff, hell we're PROTECTED, it's what we mountain critters do!

151 posted on 09/27/2011 5:58:07 AM PDT by Karliner ("If we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, Obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he?")
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To: Beagle8U

In large cites in the real world it does not work that way.Most hires are not made from active solicitations of the currently employed by employers who are about to go out of business. A few are but they are the exception rather than the rule. Many general skills jobs are either advertised or word is put out and referrals are made.If a referral is made and a qualified candidate is out of work, they are out of luck under a no unemployed need apply rule.From a personal experience perspective, a hiring manager may be just as suspect as why the employed candidate in front me of is looking to switch.My experience in hiring currently employed sales people is that most had poor sales numbers. From a business perspective, a top down inflexible no unemployed need not apply rule prejudging the field and dictating who a manager must not hire is just as unwise as a congressional legislation dictating who must be hired.


152 posted on 09/27/2011 6:01:17 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: schu
Unfortunately this is often untrue. We look and hundreds of resumes weekly and if someone has not worked for the last 12+ months they are generally not considered for the open position. Our experience is that people who have been unemployed for an extended period, over 18 months, are not as employable. Their job and life skills have eroded, this is undeniable.

I bolded those comparative words because that is precisely the point. No screening tool is perfect -- not interviews, not resumes, not recommendations, and not whether they've been unemployed for an extended period. However, just because those screening tools aren't perfect doesn't mean they're not useful, or that employers aren't being reasonable in using those screening mechanisms.

Employment is a zero sum game -- if one person gets a job, someone else doesn't. The real problem is that not enough new jobs are being created. If net jobs are being created, then someone, somewhere, would have to be hiring the unemployed by definition. When you forbid employers form considering employment status, the most you're accomplishing is shuffling the individuals who are among the unemployed. You're not actually reducing unemployment at all.

Stupid, stupid proposal.

153 posted on 09/27/2011 8:32:49 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: reaganaut1

How about getting rid of NAFTA instead?


154 posted on 09/27/2011 9:23:59 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Nonstatist
"Taking a 2 year breather because Obonehead has invented extended unemployment benefits is not something that should show up on a resume."

Sharp as an orange.

155 posted on 09/27/2011 9:27:03 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Exactly. This whore is the epitome of the RATS. Anything that will keep them in office.


156 posted on 09/27/2011 9:30:29 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: schu

Its certainly possible for a IT worker in their 50’s or older being out of work that long. You realize how hard it is to get work even with relevant skills, given the huge numbers of foreign born young IT workers in the country?

Go ahead and tar good people with that brush, but remember that sooner or later you will also be older and get to experience the smirks on the faces of interviewers young enough to be our kids.


157 posted on 09/27/2011 10:55:51 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: reaganaut1

No one in the Hood left behind program.....?


158 posted on 09/27/2011 11:09:42 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Hodar; Kratos
I know, I’ve been there - more times than I care to count. I’ve seen companies fail, plants close, jobs move to Mumbai as well as generally layoffs. ...

The idea that an engineer can even dream of taking a vacation on $346/wk is a pipe dream; ...

Some people haven’t got a CLUE as to what they are babbling about. When you earn $70K/yr, your family budget easily consumes a majority of that - if your income goes away; you will burn through your savings and retirement until you can find a job. ...


Yup .. and right now, as I did after 9-11, one will cash in your saving while they are worth less than when you saved them. Then you will be lucky to come near what you were making; your job was likely off-shored to a third world country or filled by a guest worker paying no or partial taxes. Unlike global corporations and finance - you are not too big to fail - no bailout for you!

While we have record unemployment and underemployment 125,000 new legal workers are brought in each month, 1.5 million per year.

Those in technical professions now compete not only with off shoring, guest workers, but also illegal aliens! Grrr ....
159 posted on 09/27/2011 11:32:17 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

I honestly believe that Engineers need to unionize.

What other profession has it’s own Visa category to keep wagers low? (H-1B Visa) You don’t see Visa’s for Medical Doctors, or any other white collar profession.

We are skilled, we are educated, we are dedicated - and we are being sold down the river.


160 posted on 09/27/2011 11:56:21 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
I honestly believe that Engineers need to unionize.

What other profession has it’s own Visa category to keep wagers low? (H-1B Visa) You don’t see Visa’s for Medical Doctors, or any other white collar profession.

We are skilled, we are educated, we are dedicated - and we are being sold down the river.


Yes we are being sold down the river by traitors with R's and D's after their names.

The whole country has been sold down the river! Whatever you do, white collar or blue collar, there is a guest workers visa to replace you with cheaper labor that frequently pays no or partial taxes. Imagine what you could work for if you got to pay no or partial taxes!

I suspect the reason technical professionals were hit by guest worker visas first is that it is a relative small number of middle class professionals who made a decent living but were also some what independent individuals who were less likely to form a union.

The Most Generous Nation in the World... at Giving Jobs Away lists all the visas available as of the end of 2009. IIRC, more have been added on since then. NOTE: part of the reason 125,000 new legal workers are brought into the US each month during a time of record unemployment and underemployment is these visas being built into 'free trade' agreements which are enforced by the WTO.



IMHO globalists are nothing more than communists in business suits bent upon establishing a NWO ruled by unelected bureaucrats. Before this can be achieved that pesky US middle class must be put in its place and made dependent upon the government. After aggressive off-shoring of manufacturing began in the 1970's and 1980's the technical professionals began to be hit by guest worker visas.

/end rant
161 posted on 09/27/2011 1:23:00 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: RitchieAprile
Go ahead and tar good people with that brush, but remember that sooner or later you will also be older and get to experience the smirks on the faces of interviewers young enough to be our kids.

Thanks for the note, but I am living it being 55 and owning a small staffing company. I am simply making generalizations that are consistent with my extensive experience and the experience of others. There are always exceptions, but these are a small percent of the total.

schu

162 posted on 09/27/2011 2:03:50 PM PDT by schu
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Are businesses now prohibited from asking for a résumé?

Kind of like the "no documentation" home loans.

163 posted on 09/27/2011 3:20:01 PM PDT by foxfield (Sarah Palin, America's "girl next door".)
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To: reaganaut1

Sweet - making it legally more risky to hire is sure to boost hiring, Thanks Mr. Obama! Not to mention this is yet another intrusion into an area where the government has no business poking its nose.

Note that this makes it especially risky to interview people (or even request resumes from those) who are unemployed.

Brilliant! Better to just silently fill the position without a public recruitment process - lessens the risk of a lawsuit, after all.


164 posted on 09/28/2011 7:09:32 AM PDT by globelamp
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