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Illegal immigrants getting in-state tuition for Texas colleges rises (Old but worth reading)
DALLASNEWS.COM ^ | March 15, 2010 | KATHERINE LEAL UNMUTH

Posted on 09/26/2011 5:58:18 PM PDT by texas_mrs

The number of illegal immigrant college students paying in-state tuition and receiving financial aid at Texas' public colleges and universities continues to climb, according to state higher education records.

During the fall semester, 12,138 students - about 1 percent of all Texas college students - benefited from the state law granting in-state tuition, according to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Most of the immigrants among those students are illegal, and some others are not legal permanent residents or U.S. citizens.

Texas awarded about $33.6 million in state and institutional financial aid to those students between fall 2004 and summer 2008.

In 2001, Texas became the first state in the country to pass an in-state tuition law. The law created a national movement. Many private universities also now award aid to illegal immigrant students.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: college; education; illegalaliens; instatetuition
I stupidly thought illegals were allowed to attend by paying the in-state rate. Didn't realize we were actually PAYING their way. As a parent who is paying for my daughter to go to college, I'm offended as hell that I am helping to pay for the education of illegals. Not to mention, this gives them ANOTHER advantage, in that my kid only gets the lower rate for her own state. These kids can go to any 'participating' state and pay (or have paid FOR them) the lower rate. It is one thing to 'level the playing field', but we are giving non-citizens and ADVANTAGE over our own kids!
1 posted on 09/26/2011 5:58:25 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

AN advantage. Allowed my fury to cloud my vision. Sorry.


2 posted on 09/26/2011 5:59:49 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

“Texas awarded about $33.6 million in state and institutional financial aid to those students (illegals) between fall 2004 and summer 2008.”

Anybody against this is hard hearted. Texas taxpayers are truly compassionate conservatives. /s


3 posted on 09/26/2011 6:02:10 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: texas_mrs

I like to be in America!
O.K. by me in America!
Everything free in America
For a small fee in America!


4 posted on 09/26/2011 6:03:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: texas_mrs

Yup. And that’s what we’ve been screaming about.


5 posted on 09/26/2011 6:03:57 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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To: texas_mrs

wow I thought they had the in state tuition and had to get a loan for that .

As a legal immigrant from England I’m pissed over this I might as well said piss off, not pay the fees, do the interviews and paperwork etc.

Actually I would rather had done it my way as I feel more proud to have worked to become an American and respect this country and her laws.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 6:06:19 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: texas_mrs

http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/undocumented.phtml


7 posted on 09/26/2011 6:07:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: manc

And this American thanks you and welcomes you.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 6:08:59 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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To: Marie

If this doesn’t sink Perry’s chances to be the Republican nominee, I don’t know what will. I refuse to vote for anyone who promotes this kind of disrespect for the taxpayers and citizens of this country.


9 posted on 09/26/2011 6:10:47 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: WestSylvanian

But you don’t understand the “special relationship” that Texas and Mexico has had over the years. /s


10 posted on 09/26/2011 6:12:05 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: texas_mrs
The number of illegal immigrant college students paying in-state tuition and receiving financial aid at Texas' public colleges and universities continues to climb, according to state higher education records.

But lot's of poster's here lately have been claiming the illegals have to pay for this reward.

It's actually a DOUBLE REWARDS program...on MY dime :(

11 posted on 09/26/2011 6:12:23 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: texas_mrs

And when and if they graduate, they will have another leg up on your children—they will apply for jobs and will fill out affirmative action forms that specifically ask them if they’re Hispanic. They will be given hiring preferences over non-Hispanic whites. Believe me this is happening. That question is now the first one being asked on new affirmative action forms—”Are you Hispanic?”


12 posted on 09/26/2011 6:14:30 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: WestSylvanian

The Perry supporters will attack the messenger, attack the message and deny that it’s the truth, then hit the next thread with the same violence.

I don’t understand what those people see in this man or why they’re so passionately supporting him.

All I can come up with is that they really don’t believe that anyone else can beat Romney. I know many of these FReepers and they are honest, passionate conservatives. It frankly stuns me how many of them are willing to settle for Perry when we have two other very good conservatives who’ve thrown their hat in the race.


13 posted on 09/26/2011 6:17:11 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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To: texas_mrs

Oh where oh where did the Perry-Boys I mean Perry-Bots go?


14 posted on 09/26/2011 6:17:39 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: texas_mrs

I didn’t get much support on another thread, I have another concern...there is intense competition for admissions, seats in crowded classes, work study, scholarships, and loans/grants. Why do hispanic illegals get preference over legal immigrants, legal foreign students, and US citizens?


15 posted on 09/26/2011 6:21:51 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Marie

Thank you I appreciate that.

I’d love to get to an obama event and tell him how I came here and why is it fair for those who break the law, disrespect the country to stay.


16 posted on 09/26/2011 6:26:07 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Marie

17 posted on 09/26/2011 6:27:42 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Kennedy, McCain, Perry - What's with D students and support for Amnesty?)
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To: Dagnabitt

I don’t care who ya are... that’s funny!

:)

(good comeback! I can respect humor!)


18 posted on 09/26/2011 6:29:10 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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To: manc

“... I feel more proud to have worked to become an American...”

Your outlook and hard work is what makes YOU an American, Manc!


19 posted on 09/26/2011 6:32:40 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: bushwon

I think that is something many aren’t thinking about. The fact is that most universities don’t have an endless enrollment. They only accept a certain number of students each year. There are hundreds, if not thousands of US citizens that are turned down in Texas every year by the school of their choice. Some of those positions are taken by ILLEGAL ALIENS!

I sincerely feel for those across the border who are unfortunate. In a perfect world, they would have the same opportunities. But the world isn’t perfect, nor is their conduct when they willingly break our laws. They’re not forced to break our laws, they choose to. And currently, when they do, they take positions from those US citizens that don’t break the law. Does that sound even remotely fair?

For crying out loud folks, it’s not like we’re sending the illegals to the gas chamber, we’re simply telling them to play by the rules like scores of thousands of immigrants do every year, or they can’t play. Simple.


20 posted on 09/26/2011 6:36:22 PM PDT by Confab
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To: texas_mrs
If you are a veteran with a battlefield disability, live in a different state but
would like to attend college in Texas, Texas sends you a message:


21 posted on 09/26/2011 6:38:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: momtothree

Thank you and it means a lot to me. I tell my kids born here how lucky they are to be American.


22 posted on 09/26/2011 6:45:40 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Iron Munro
Texas military benefits are outstanding. For those that currently serve and veterans. This includes the veteran's family, as well.

http://www.collegeforalltexans.com/index.cfm?ObjectID=6D1C44E2-94AA-3EA0-F9C377063D3F40D4

23 posted on 09/26/2011 7:03:17 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: Iron Munro

If a disabled vet lives in another state, they would be eligible for their own state benefits or federal benefits to attend school in TX.


24 posted on 09/26/2011 7:05:34 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: WestSylvanian
They will be given hiring preferences over non-Hispanic whites.

But if/when they graduate they'll still be illegal so presumably they won't be able to be hired. Which makes it a waste of time and money giving them the break on tuition. Unless of course you put them on a path to citizenship which is what it's all about anyway for the elites running the show.

25 posted on 09/26/2011 7:54:20 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: texas_mrs

No, they cannot go to any state. Most states offer in-state tuition, however. There is a residency requirement in TX, for example, of three years. It is NOT full tuition.


26 posted on 09/26/2011 8:44:32 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: World'sGoneInsane
If a disabled vet lives in another state, they would be eligible for their own state benefits or federal benefits to attend school in TX.

But, if you are an American citizen (veteran or not) and reside in a different state but would like to attend college in Texas you have to pay out of state resident tuition while illegal aliens get preferential treatment.

Here is the message Texas sends to you:


27 posted on 09/27/2011 9:15:06 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: Iron Munro
Residency requirement means just that. Residing in the state for three years. This same policy is offered in 45 other states, as well. The TX legislature passed it with 4 nays.

If you are a veteran, disabled or otherwise, you have other better benefits available. If you are a disabled vet, then you should contact the school in TX that you are interested in.

If you are just using the misfortune of vets to promote your own candidate, then you should contact the Westboro Church.

28 posted on 09/27/2011 10:43:30 AM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Are you pretending to be obtuse or do you really not understand the objections to the Texas Dream Act?

The point is that in Texas illegal aliens are given preference, in the form of financial subsidies, over genuine, authentic, legal American citizens.

Not only is this immoral, unethical and un-American; it is a violation of federal law:

Federal Law Title 8, Chapter 14, Sec. 1623 states:

“an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State... for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit.”

But Texas, like several other states, has decided to ignore this law and elevate the interests of illegal aliens above those of American citizens.

That Governor Perry has signed this into law is bad enough, but to call critics “heartless” is beyond the pale.


29 posted on 09/27/2011 10:59:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: Iron Munro

Well said.


30 posted on 09/27/2011 11:01:08 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Iron Munro
I am not being obtuse. To keep attacking one candidate to promote your own is one thing. However, when people start using "mentally retarded people," or "disabled vets" to tear someone down--that is beyond the pale.

There really are families dealing with disabled vets, etc. I'd really not waste my time with the likes of you.

31 posted on 09/27/2011 12:17:06 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: Iron Munro

I don’t know where I read or heard this, but I’m pretty sure a US citizen can reside in Texas for ONE year and receive in-state tuition at Texas universities and colleges unlike the THREE year requirement for illegals. I could be wrong. Most states have a one year residency requirement for in-state tuition for US citizens.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 12:28:49 PM PDT by petitfour
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Residency requirement means just that. Residing in the state for three years. This same policy is offered in 45 other states, as well.

By doing this only encourages more illegal immigration.

No?

This same policy is offered in 45 other states, as well.

Texas under Perry started this disgrace, as Texas was the FIRST state under Perry, to go down this path, by passing in-state tuition for illegals.

33 posted on 09/27/2011 8:34:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Texas under Perry started this disgrace, as Texas was the FIRST state under Perry, to go down this path, by passing in-state tuition for illegals.

Perry's stance on illegal immigration and treatment of illegals is sinking him.

And there is no way he can walk it back after his strong defense of the Texas Dream Act and calling critics heartless.

I believe he and his supporters have seriously misread the importance of the illegal immigration issue to conservatives. It is not a stand-alone issue as it is a big factor in our budget and deficit problem, entry of illegal drugs, health care costs, welfare and food stamp costs, social security and ID fraud, school and college costs, jobs availability, and crime. It even raises concerns about third world diseases and terrorists entering the country.

Stopping illegal immigration and ending handouts and services to illegals would go a long way to helping us begin the process of putting America back on the road to prosperity.


34 posted on 09/28/2011 12:12:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: Iron Munro
Perry's stance on illegal immigration and treatment of illegals is sinking him. And there is no way he can walk it back after his strong defense of the Texas Dream Act and calling critics heartless.

Yep. This fraud will never get my vote.

I'm refuse to get lied to, bushsh*tted and hoodwinked again by these political deceivers and frauds.

To be honest, every time I see Perry and his animated phony facial expressions, my first thought is, "Oh gezzzz, here we go same GD thing all over again".

35 posted on 09/28/2011 9:07:45 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
You should really concern yourself with what else is going on in this country today. Immigration is not going to be the priority in this election.

If that is all you are concerned with, then just vote for Obama. He's done so much more than Perry on that issue. /S That's right, Bachmann used your word magnet in relation to this issue. Vote for her, she looks like a really well-balanced candidate for you.

If the worst thing Rick Perry did was not veto a legislative act ten years ago that allowed IN-STATE tuition rates to students that met residency requirements; mandated and killed a bill for a vaccine; and called some people heartless--then he has my vote. After reading what some people post around here, heartless was much too kind a word.

36 posted on 09/28/2011 11:57:11 AM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: World'sGoneInsane; Iron Munro
You should really concern yourself with what else is going on in this country today. Immigration is not going to be the priority

Name some big issues in America today that is not directly related to these tens of millions who are gang raping our system at every level.

Take your time.

37 posted on 09/28/2011 12:08:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Here’s a few: the economy, Obamacare, and the economy. Did I mention the economy?


38 posted on 09/28/2011 12:29:12 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: World'sGoneInsane; Iron Munro
You should really concern yourself with what else is going on in this country today. Immigration is not going to be the priority

Name some big issues in America today that is not directly related to these tens of millions who are gang raping our system at every level.

Take your time.

Here’s a few: the economy, Obamacare, and the economy. Did I mention the economy?

Are you joking?

You *cannot* possibly be this dense or naive.

Tens of millions of illegals have taken hundreds of thousand of jobs met for Americans, they have driven the wages down in entire industries, they are choking off our healthcare, jammed our emergency rooms, hospitals, jails, schools, they are choking off our welfare, our social services, and have created epic fraud within our economy. Not to mention Mexicans send tens of *billions* out of the U.S. back to Mexico. I could go on.

Is it possible you can be this naive?

39 posted on 09/28/2011 1:39:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Tens of millions of illegals have taken hundreds of thousand of jobs met for Americans, they have driven the wages down in entire industries, they are choking off our healthcare, jammed our emergency rooms, hospitals, jails, schools, they are choking off our welfare, our social services, and have created epic fraud within our economy. Not to mention Mexicans send tens of *billions* out of the U.S. back to Mexico. I could go on.

Well said!

Such things are intuitively obvious to the unbiased observer.!


40 posted on 09/28/2011 1:58:59 PM PDT by Iron Munro (A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: dragnet2
That is one sector of the economy. One sector.

BTW, here is Gov. Perry's answer to your questions regarding the border. You will have to read the whole article or listen to whole video.

It is posted below:

41 posted on 09/28/2011 2:04:27 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: dragnet2

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/RickPerry-immigration-heartless-education/2011/09/28/id/412594


42 posted on 09/28/2011 2:05:05 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: Iron Munro
Such things are intuitively obvious to the unbiased observer.!

You summed that up well.

43 posted on 09/28/2011 3:51:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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