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Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control
Salon ^ | Sept. 27, 2011 | Brad Friedman

Posted on 09/27/2011 9:11:14 AM PDT by Clairity

Exclusive: A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated

It could be one of the most disturbing e-voting machine hacks to date.

Voting machines used by as many as a quarter of American voters heading to the polls in 2012 can be hacked with just $10.50 in parts and an 8th grade science education, according to computer science and security experts at the Vulnerability Assessment Team at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois. The experts say the newly developed hack could change voting results while leaving absolutely no trace of the manipulation behind.

"We believe these man-in-the-middle attacks are potentially possible on a wide variety of electronic voting machines," said Roger Johnston, leader of the assessment team "We think we can do similar things on pretty much every electronic voting machine."

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: diebold; elections; electronicvoting; hacking; voterfraud; votingmachines
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To: Clairity
Electronic voting machines in my area also have printed paper ballots which are retained in the voting machines. Does the "no trace left behind" method include a big eraser or bottle of White Out to change that paper?
21 posted on 09/27/2011 9:35:00 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: Clairity
  A real voting machine is a piece of paper, a pencil and maybe a small ink pad. The voter simply connects the dots for his chosen candidates and signs the bottom of the ballot. A fingerprint could also be added to the ballot for extra security. Using a computer to do something as simple as placing a vote is ridiculous.
22 posted on 09/27/2011 9:35:02 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Clairity
Good response in Salon's comments section:
And yet Salon defends their own objection to voter IDs solely on the assertion that voter fraud 'never happens'
23 posted on 09/27/2011 9:36:14 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Clairity

Leaves no trace...this is certainly a convenient statement to be made for the benefit of whichever party loses.


24 posted on 09/27/2011 9:37:27 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Texas Fossil

Salon is only reporting it — the original data comes from Argonne National Laboratories Vulnerability Assessment Team.

http://www.ne.anl.gov/capabilities/vat/


25 posted on 09/27/2011 9:41:45 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

A lady in y Community, Not a Staunch Democrat, but a hysterical crazed Democrat died this week, but I am sure she will vote in the next election.


26 posted on 09/27/2011 9:42:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Maurice Tift
A fingerprint could also be added to the ballot for extra security.

Cardcheck writ large? No thank you.

I could go for a thumbprint reader as part of the sign-in process. On line real time comparison to thumbprints given the same day. Try to vote twice, go to jail.

27 posted on 09/27/2011 9:46:56 AM PDT by null and void (Day 979 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Maurice Tift

[ A real voting machine is a piece of paper, a pencil and maybe a small ink pad. The voter simply connects the dots for his chosen candidates and signs the bottom of the ballot. A fingerprint could also be added to the ballot for extra security. Using a computer to do something as simple as placing a vote is ridiculous. ]

Computers in voting should be used to scan the fingerprints on the vote cards and look for duplicates and then once you found the duplicates you find which ones are fradulent and search against the FBI database and once you find a match you persecute the SOB who fraudulently votes to the fullest extent of the law.

Voter fraud should be a felony because it is direct TREASON against the republic.


28 posted on 09/27/2011 9:48:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Clairity

Harris County’s Republican Leadership has voting machines that are tamper proof.


29 posted on 09/27/2011 9:49:07 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: null and void

How about using a postcard sized card that you vote on and then before it is placed inthe box you put a physical thumbprint on it in front of witnesses.

Then after the cards are counted the thumbprints are scanned into a computer and they are searched for duplicates. Then your voter investigators investigate those matches and NAIL the bastards who vote fraudulently.

I would even like something like a “voting receipt” that mails you back a sealed card that shows how your vote was entered and if it doesn’t match who you voted for you can alert the election investigators and they can check for fraud.

You could use multiple cards, for elections.

Blue for “National Elections” (president, senators and reps)
Red for “State Eelctions” (State Reps, state issues)
White for “Local Elections” (Mayor, city / county issues )


30 posted on 09/27/2011 9:55:30 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Clairity

Only a complete Moron would believe that These Electronic voting machines are not being manipulated in places. It is just so easy to do. It is the equivalent of rigging the ballot box.


31 posted on 09/27/2011 9:56:34 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Clairity

Sensationalist crap from the liberals at bradblog. For just 10.50 in parts you can solder up thousands of these MIM boards
and then insert them before an election and remove them after the election. Yeah right.

You don’t have to be smart to see through these leftist hacks, you just have to not be a fool.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 10:01:29 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Clairity

I am tired of our inability to build a secure electronic voting system. I’m also tired of our inability, or lack of will or desire, to build a secure voter verification system.

My right to vote is too valuable a thing, bought at too high a price, to devalue it so much with crappy machines that can’t accurately count my vote, and non-existant verification rules that allow others to vote multiple times, vote for other people, or vote when they have no right to do so.

My new rules for voting would be strict. Nobody votes without a passport or a special government citizenship verification. All votes will be printed at time of vote. The voter will be able to look at the paper, and then the paper will be put in a special locked box corresponding to the machine.

After each election, a random sampling of those boxes will be opened and hand-counted, and the results compared to the electronic box they correspond to. If ANY discrepancy is found, the entire election will be paper-counted. The paper can be designed so it can be scanned, but the scanners will be tested with the hand-counted ballots first to verify THEY have not been tampered with.

Further — each candidate will be allowed to provide their own scan-counter. And if the candidate scan-counter doesn’t match the official count for a particular box, all the votes in that box will be hand-counted.

It will slow down the process in close elections, but it has a great chance of being secure, and verifyable. Biggest problem — people forgetting to drop their votes into the box after reading them. But that’s a stupidity issue, and if you are too stupid to drop a paper in a box, I don’t think we will miss your vote.


33 posted on 09/27/2011 10:02:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Clairity
This attack reminds me of that Armenian Stop & Shop hack of a few years ago. You paid for your groceries with your debit card and watched your account drain away through ATMs all over the world.

Physical access is a risk to any voting system.

34 posted on 09/27/2011 10:03:37 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: GraceG

The whole point of secret ballots is that NO ONE knows how you voted, only THAT you voted.

Signing the ballot, thumb printing the ballot, pasting your photo on the ballot, etc. allows people who voted the “wrong” way to be punished.


35 posted on 09/27/2011 10:05:12 AM PDT by null and void (Day 979 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Clairity

The author, I believe, is a left wing crackpot who runs The Brad Blog. His nonsense is routinely spewed on sites like DU and it’s all a bunch of conspiracy drivel. What they believe is that Republicans have been stealing elections with electronic voting machines. They are certain of this and spread loopy conspiracy theories all over that Bush didn’t win Ohio in 2004, that the Republicans didn’t really win the midterms in 2002, etc, etc. Nothing this author says should be taken seriously. He’s a far left nutjob looking for ways to explain away Democrat election losses.


36 posted on 09/27/2011 10:10:46 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Maurice Tift

So, you’re not a big fan of secret ballots, eh?


37 posted on 09/27/2011 10:12:14 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Clairity
Won't even need to hack them. King Obama has at least 45% of the voters and probably can recruit the rest by just buying them.
38 posted on 09/27/2011 10:13:47 AM PDT by Logical me
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If the Dems can do it (manipulate the machines), then WE can do it. So let THEM worry about it. We’re smarter than they are, anyway.


39 posted on 09/27/2011 10:22:25 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Vaduz

You don’t have to wonder; I can guarrentee it.


40 posted on 09/27/2011 10:34:06 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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