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UC Berkeley GOP student bake sale is mean-spirited
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/27/11 | Chip Johnson

Posted on 09/27/2011 10:03:10 AM PDT by SmithL

I don't know about the political ethics or math skills of the UC Berkeley students who came up with the idea for an Increase Diversity Bake Sale, but they certainly know how to draw a crowd.

The student Republican group that sponsored a race-based bake sale set to be held on the campus today must have been counting on raising more than just the cookie dough.

There are few places in America more reactionary than a college campus, and among them, UC Berkeley is a leader.

A bake sale flyer posted on Facebook last week linked the price of pastries to the race, ethnicity or gender of the buyer so that "White/Caucasians" are charged $2, "Asian/Asian-Americans," $1.50; "Latino/Hispanic" $1; "Black/African Americans," 75 cents; Native Americans 25 cents and a 25 cent discount to all women.

The bake sale creators have no understanding of how race works in America.

In a country whose earliest beginnings relied on an economic system that placed a price tag on the value of a black man, and carried out genocide against its native inhabitants, you would have to be tone-deaf to promote such an idea. Unless of course, all you really wanted was some attention focused on your cause.

Student organizers said the point of the bake sale was to mock a bill now on Gov. Jerry Brown's desk that would allow university officials to consider race, ethnicity and gender as factors in its student admission decisions. Prop 209 prohibits public universities from considering an applicant's race, gender and ethnicity.

It may have been presented as nothing more than a bit of political theater created to shine a light on a legitimate policy issue, but it came off as mean-spirited.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; bakesale; berkeley; beserkeley; blueyed1quarterinjun; butt; buttweight; buttweightmoochelle; buttweighttheresmore
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1 posted on 09/27/2011 10:03:20 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Which is more “mean spirited” - charging a student more for a baked good - or denying a student a place at your University because they didn’t have the correct skin color - and instead giving the place to a less qualified individual with the correct skin color?

The only thing I see that the students did wrong is that Asian students should be charged MORE than Caucasian students - not LESS.

Nobody gets a worse deal in college admissions than an academically excellent (but not extraordinary) Asian student.


2 posted on 09/27/2011 10:06:31 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SmithL

Correct. It is mean-spirited.

Towards Whites.


3 posted on 09/27/2011 10:06:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: SmithL

The writer refuses to acknoledge that the Liberal mindset requires that all good things occur due to their largess.

What egos!


4 posted on 09/27/2011 10:08:30 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: SmithL

The vermin media would have us believe that EVERYTHING done ANYWHERE outside the approved Liberal Playbook is ‘Mean Spirited’. This therefore makes the moniker of ‘Mean Spirited’ an acknoeldgement of truth and further, a badge of honor...


5 posted on 09/27/2011 10:10:17 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: SmithL

how is this mean spirited, while the bill before governor moonbeam isn’t?


6 posted on 09/27/2011 10:10:26 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: SmithL

When liberals look at themselves in a mirror, they never seem to recognize who their looking at.


7 posted on 09/27/2011 10:10:54 AM PDT by uptoolate (For the record: I have complete assurance that nothing can pluck me from His hand)
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To: SmithL

Education for CA libs:

1. A bake sale is not mean spirited.
2. Making me purchase insurance I don’t need is mean spirited.
3. Using my tax $$ to fund things not in the constitution is mean spirited.
4. Calling Sarah Palin stupid whilst actually claiming that the Obamabutt has a brain at all is mean spirited.
etc. etc, etc.

Shove it up your smelly Obamas, libs.


8 posted on 09/27/2011 10:11:01 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SmithL

If any comment or action demonstrates or implies that the Free S**t Army (as Karl Denninger calls it) doesn’t, in fact, deserve any Free S**t - it’s mean-spirited. We know this game well.


9 posted on 09/27/2011 10:11:30 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: SmithL

Reverse discrimination is still discrimination.

My hat is off to the students who are shining a light on the discriminatory practices of the university.

This is just like the new U-180 film floating around that is absolutely fabulous in getting students to agree that Hitler’s techniques to brainwash people to believe that Jews were not human is the same technique used today by the pro-choice crowd to believe that the fetus is not human. Find the best similar situation, get people to agree that it is wrong, and then apply it to the other situation. Kind of reminds me of teaching with parables!


10 posted on 09/27/2011 10:13:19 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: SmithL

Meanies!

They should have charged white and asian studente double and made them give away half the goodie to a person of color~


11 posted on 09/27/2011 10:14:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: silverleaf

You know - Whites are people of color too! The combination of ALL colors in the spectrum. Black is technically the lack of color!


12 posted on 09/27/2011 10:20:25 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: SmithL

wow. These people will name call and do anything but discuss the issue in an adult and reasonable manner.


13 posted on 09/27/2011 10:20:25 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SmithL

The UCB GOP failed at one thing, they should have opened another bake sale booth next to it where the prices were set based on goods being sold, not who they were sold to. The have a sign above that booth with the message “This is how colleges should operate” and above the other one put the banner “This is how the college system is currently ran”.

They needed to compare and contrast the differences between how it is and how it SHOULD be.


14 posted on 09/27/2011 10:22:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SmithL

mean-spirited = true


15 posted on 09/27/2011 10:27:46 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: OriginalChristian
but it came off as mean-spirited

"Mean spirited" is a codeword to be applied to anything of which the socialists do not approve.
They are the self appointed arbiters of all things unfair, unjust, or biased and it is mean-spirited to expose them as the mean, deceitful, lying and bullying people that they really are.

16 posted on 09/27/2011 10:29:02 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Obama is a one trick phony (wealth distribution).)
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To: SmithL
The author, Mr. Johnson, should be happy this bake sale wasn't held in Madison, Wisconsin. According to a study of University of Wisconsin admissions data (noted in this recent Free Republic post, "a black or Hispanic undergraduate applicant was more than 500 times likelier to be admitted to Wisconsin-Madison than a similarly qualified white or Asian applicant."

Instead of the "White/Caucasian, $2; Black/African American, $0.75" charged at UC Berkeley, the prices at the University of Wisconsin may have been "White/Caucasian, $375; Black/African American, $0.75" for realism.

17 posted on 09/27/2011 10:29:50 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: SmithL

Day 1. Sell too ethnic minorities and women only
excluding white males.

Day 2. Sell too white males only.

See which gets a pass.


18 posted on 09/27/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: SmithL
but it came off as mean-spirited.

"Mean spitied" in this context means that it was effective in getting it's message across. The liberal media hates it when anyone on the conservative side makes valid points.

19 posted on 09/27/2011 10:42:33 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SmithL

Illegal aliens - FREE


20 posted on 09/27/2011 10:44:22 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Fox News story on this... http://video.foxnews.com/v/1184891495001/fox-news-debuts-new-election-technology/?playlist_id=86858#/v/1185209797001/racist-bake-sale-or-statement-on-affirmative-action/?playlist_id=87485


21 posted on 09/27/2011 10:46:41 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (Repeal Obamacare !!)
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To: SmithL

You can email the Berkeley College Republicans at:

BerkeleyCollegeRepublicans@gmail.com


22 posted on 09/27/2011 10:48:18 AM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: SmithL

As a member of a persecuted religious minority (Jew), with disabilities, and of advanced years (can remember when Jesus wore short pants), I want a full, written explanation as to why I have not yet received my free chocolate eclairs from the Berserkley booth.

I gotz rights AND entitlements! ! !


23 posted on 09/27/2011 10:48:49 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: Scoutmaster

oldie, but a goodie:

“University Of Wisconsin Says It Faked Diversity Photo”

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_18_98/ai_66157053/

The University of Wisconsin at Madison recently admitted that school officials could not find an existing example of racial diversity during a sports event there, so a publicity photo on the cover of its 40-page fall admissions brochure was doctored to include a Black student among a crowd of White football fans.


24 posted on 09/27/2011 10:51:53 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: SmithL
There are few places in America more reactionary than a college campus, and among them, UC Berkeley is a leader.

"That word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

25 posted on 09/27/2011 10:51:57 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I never win at Scrable.)
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To: SmithL

Mean-Spirited = Disagreeing with a liberal.


26 posted on 09/27/2011 10:53:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jeff Chandler

Inconceivable!


27 posted on 09/27/2011 10:56:12 AM PDT by DTxAg
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To: SmithL
There are few places in America more reactionary than a college campus, and among them, UC Berkeley is a leader.

Huh?

28 posted on 09/27/2011 10:56:16 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: SmithL
There are few places in America more reactionary than a college campus, and among them, UC Berkeley is a leader.

Huh?

29 posted on 09/27/2011 10:57:03 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: SmithL
There is a distinct difference between criticizing an idea in the public marketplace, criticizing a public figure and criticizing a group based solely on an ethnic, religious, social or economic difference. Rich or poor, white, black, Asian or Latino, it doesn't matter. You can only meet people one at a time.

You mean like the "rich," "millionaires," "billionaires," "corporate jet owners"?

30 posted on 09/27/2011 11:04:12 AM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao
Rich or poor, white, black, Asian or Latino, it doesn't matter. You can only meet people one at a time.

It matters after dark in my neighborhood. There's been a lot of "one at a time" armed robbery.
31 posted on 09/27/2011 11:08:42 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: SmithL

Yes, indeed, it’s mean spirited to call out the hypocrisy of liberals.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 11:09:45 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: SmithL
In a country whose earliest beginnings relied on an economic system that placed a price tag on the value of a black man, and carried out genocide against its native inhabitants, you would have to be tone-deaf to promote such an idea.

And you have to be an idiot to write a sentence like the one above.
33 posted on 09/27/2011 11:10:03 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Timocrat

As a UC-Berkeley alum, this is the most rediculous assertion I have read in years.


34 posted on 09/27/2011 11:14:51 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: SmithL

“Mean spirited” is a code word for “honest”.


35 posted on 09/27/2011 11:18:19 AM PDT by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: SmithL

“Genocide against its native inhabitants”? Genetic analysis proves they’re Chinese. Stay up with the times, Chip.


36 posted on 09/27/2011 11:24:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: allmendream

Correct. It is also Asians (mainly the students parents) who are the most bitter about this situation in California.


37 posted on 09/27/2011 11:32:30 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: SmithL
Modern public college campuses -- "reactionary"??? (they surely mean conservative by that).

It is to LOL

38 posted on 09/27/2011 11:48:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: SmithL

Actually, I think the students’ idea is brilliant. They certainly get their point across.


39 posted on 09/27/2011 11:50:13 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SmithL
The bake sale creators have no understanding of how race works in America.

Yes, actually they do. What their critics have is a fond illusion, a fairy story with themselves cast as the heroes. Taking away their fairy story and forcing them to look at reality may be "mean-spirited" but it turns out to be necessary.

40 posted on 09/27/2011 11:52:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: aruanan
Let's see, chattel slavery bit the dust in America due to DemocratsRepublicans?

The new country was not always friendly to Indians, with infamous examples like the Trail of Tears, but often it was friendlier to Indians than their fellow Indians were. And ultimately it gave Indians most of their wish, which was to be let alone on private lands and passively get funds from treaties and mineral rights -- which could have been a pot of jam for them, but largely they languish.

41 posted on 09/27/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The new country was not always friendly to Indians, with infamous examples like the Trail of Tears, but often it was friendlier to Indians than their fellow Indians were.

And way friendlier than under the Spanish or Portuguese.
42 posted on 09/27/2011 11:55:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: blueunicorn6

It was long suspected by anthropologists that what we know as American Indians were peoples who crossed a land bridge to North America which briefly existed across what we now call the Bering Strait. It joined what we call Siberia today to what we call Alaska today.

I’m not aware of genetic proofs that tie American Indians to oriental peoples. That was long a debated question. Who carried that out?


43 posted on 09/27/2011 11:58:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Billthedrill

How much mileage do these people really want to get out of old grievances? Virtually everyone had ancestors that were somebody else’s slaves or conquered people. And present day color or race has little to do with that. That is a cheap minded wild goose chase.


44 posted on 09/27/2011 12:02:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: SmithL

Lift the rock. Listen to the howls of agony,


45 posted on 09/27/2011 12:10:50 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: SmithL

What is more ‘mean spirited’ then denying acceptance based on merit? What is more mean spirited then saying that it is not your hard work and accademics that matter but how you look that matters?


46 posted on 09/27/2011 12:14:14 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: aruanan
"And way friendlier than under the Spanish or Portuguese."

I'd have to see more evidence to be convinced of that. The Psanish and Portuguese internarried with Indians to such a great extent that the mixed-race population now makes up the substantial majority of Latin American societies. There was a substantial cultural as well as genetic fusion.

Whereas, as I nuderstand it, intermarriage between English-speaking settlers and tribal people was far more rare. Most Indians in North America were firmly pushed back and then segregated into reservations. (A possible, partial exception might be the mixture of Scotch-Irish and Cherokee in Appalachia.)

47 posted on 09/27/2011 12:25:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Half the lies they tell about me ain't true." - Yogi Berra)
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To: SmithL
The bake sale creators have no understanding of how race works in America.

Sounds like they understand it perfectly. Chip on the other hand, not so much.

48 posted on 09/27/2011 12:26:10 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: Da Coyote

Or

Shove it up your SMELLY OBAMASS, libs.


49 posted on 09/27/2011 12:30:34 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>I’m not aware of genetic proofs that tie American Indians to oriental peoples. That was long a debated question. Who carried that out?<<<

Mitochondrial DNA studies seem to indicate that some of the ancestors of Native Americans came from central Asia, with the ancestors of modern Europeans moving east and the Native Americans moving west. There’s a lot of speculation about how Native people came to North America, including by boat along the coast. Eskimoan peoples have definite Asian origins and got to North America recently, in comparison. I can see it in my classroom - the Yup’ik kids often look very Chinese, while the Athabascan kids look almost European, except for the slightly brown skin.

In any case... the Berkeley students put on a brilliant satire. Which is why they pissed off so many people.


50 posted on 09/27/2011 12:43:28 PM PDT by redpoll
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