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81% Of Texas Job Growth Under Perry Went To Immigrants
diggersrealm.com ^ | September 26, 2011 | By Digger

Posted on 09/27/2011 12:55:20 PM PDT by VU4G10

Governor Rick Perry is quick to tout the job growth in Texas as one of his defining characteristics, accomplishments and results that Americans should depend on when considering him for the Republican nomination for president. Placing this issue front and center has pushed him forward and convinced many that he may be the candidate to support to resurrect a climate of positive job creation in this country. As there is a continued downturn in the US job market it seems like a plausible consideration until you actually take a look at the job climate Perry created in Texas. As with everything in politics bending things in your favor when the truth is not quite as appealing is an art form. And Perry, his team and supporters are either masters or blinded by numbers they have not looked into. The Center for Immigration Studies has taken up the challenge of actually looking into the jobs created in Texas and just who those jobs went to in a new report.

The report confirms that jobs were created in Texas, 279,000 to be exact, over the last 4 years from 2007 to 2011. Who has received these jobs and how this impacts the United States as a whole - should Perry become president - is another matter. The report, which used census data, finds that of the 279,000 jobs created 225,000 of those jobs went to immigrants, both legal and illegal, who arrived in the US in the same four year period.

The majority of growth of working age people in Texas - 69% - was of native born Texans. Yet of this group they only received 19% of the newly created jobs in the state. The rest went to immigrants who came into the state since 2007.

The most damning statistic the report finds is that half of the 81% of jobs immigrants received were taken by illegal aliens. Thus 40% of all job growth in Texas in the past four years went to illegal aliens, 40% went to non-citizen legal immigrants and 19% went to native Texans who are US citizens. The report finds also that the jobs taken are far from the "jobs Americans won't do". The job types taken were not only of a low-skilled blue collar type; a third of the immigrants who took a job had some college. It was across the educational spectrum of jobs that immigrants received over native Texans. I contend that it is not because the immigrants were more qualified, but that the jobs climate that Rick Perry created in the state of Texas was in favor of immigrants over the native born.

When just the number of employed native born Texans are analyzed for the past four years, the numbers speak volumes as to the truth of the jobs situation in Texas. In 2007 the percent of native born Texans with a job was 71%, in 2011 it is 67%, a 4% drop in native employment. As the report points out this is consistent with the rate of employment of all the other states.

... it is difficult to find evidence to support the argument that things are very different in Texas than in the rest of the country for the native-born population. In the second quarter of 2011, the unemployment rate in Texas was 8.1 percent for natives, ranking the state 22nd out of 50 states in terms of the lowest rate. If we compare the growth in unemployment from 2007 to 2011, the rate roughly doubled in Texas, which is very similar to what happened in the country as a whole. The share of working-age natives holding a job in Texas was 66.6 percent in 2011, ranking Texas 29th in the nation. Both the unemployment rate and the employment rate represent a significant deterioration for natives since 2007. A deterioration that roughly parallels what took place in the rest of the nation.

Is this really a jobs program we want for the United States?

When governor Perry points out that he's created jobs, he has created jobs for non-citizens in his state. He has created jobs for those who cannot vote for him, while those who supported him are left out of a job. It is simply ludicrous to have the largest growth in your state be native Texans, yet to have 81% of new jobs not go to those native Texans and then to turn around and call that a win for your state on job creation.

The reality is that Texas governor Rick Perry has encouraged illegal immigration. He has also encouraged legal immigrants in his state to create and give jobs to other immigrants, both illegal and legal over US citizens. There can simply be no other way to look at it. There is no reason for growth to be in one segment of the population, denying it to all the others unless the job climate created favored that situation. It defies logic and reason to see this happen and not believe that there is either an incentive balance created by the state legislature of Texas and Rick Perry, or there is some outright racism going on favoring immigrants over citizens in how people are being hired. The only other false argument that could be made is to believe that native Texans are simply a lazy bunch of people - and that I do not believe.

This all boils down to the truth of the matter and that truth is that the facts point out that Rick Perry is the governor of the non-citizen. He looks out for non-citizens first and touts his job creation among them as his highest accomplishment. That is not what we need for the United States. We need a leader who is willing to support the creation of jobs among all segments of society and not put in place incentives that favor illegal aliens and the guests we have allowed to come to our country over the citizens of our nation. When you hear Perry say anything about job creation in Texas, remember that the US Citizens in Texas were not among those who received those jobs by and large, they were illegal aliens and guests we have invited in to compete directly against American workers who have taken 81% of the jobs in Texas.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; heartless; hispanics; illegals; immigrants; perry
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1 posted on 09/27/2011 12:55:22 PM PDT by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

I guess then more Americans should have gone there to get the work.


2 posted on 09/27/2011 12:59:20 PM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: VU4G10

I’m sure the number is high, but I don’t think it’s THAT high. I’m not defending this guy...I’m not a fan, for sure...but I hate when we do this crap. Save this kind of exaggeration for the Dem candidate.


3 posted on 09/27/2011 1:00:37 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: VU4G10
Well Digger said it so it must be true. Interesting that I live here and I don't see it. I see people from Chicago here, and New York and Washington State. I see Ohioans and Pennsylvanians but the immigrant is harder to find. Oh there are quite a few Indians who seemed to have moved here but other than that it's mostly displaced Americans coming to Texas for work.

Nice Try but you and your ilk might try toning down the over the top barrage. People might start suspecting you're lying and give Perry some sympathy.

If I were you I would stick to the "Rick Perry hates America and 12 year old girls,his 12 year record as Texas Governor and Lt.Governor is all smoke and mirrors and he loves Muslims and Mexicans more than the people he defended as an Air Force Pilot. He really despises his own parents and all that salt of the earth thing too."

4 posted on 09/27/2011 1:05:53 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: VU4G10
Where did you dig up this turd?

The link you provided failed. Obviously, this is another BS hit piece from an obscure source. Yet you run with it anyway.

Doing the dirty work for the Left for free I see.

5 posted on 09/27/2011 1:06:09 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: VU4G10

81% Of Texas Job Growth Under Perry Went To Immigrants

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This is not true. This has already been debunked. There are previous FR threads with more info if anyone cares.

But the truth is... Who does care? If you don’t like Perry - you are gonna glom onto to this like a dog on a bone.

If you do like Perry (and if this crap was true) - it still wouldn’t change your mind.


6 posted on 09/27/2011 1:06:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: VU4G10

Cali would be glad to send Perry and the great state of Texas a few million more cholos and their familias... please spread the word.


7 posted on 09/27/2011 1:06:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: VU4G10
Strange you didn't link it so I will.

http://cis.org/immigrants-filled-most-new-jobs-in-Texas

By their own admissions their numbers were a guess. I own a business that returns disabled people to the workforce in Texas, when this report first came out it started a stir but after review we found that the research was dubious at best and nothing more than an academic backed attack on Perry and the State of Texas.

8 posted on 09/27/2011 1:09:19 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: VU4G10
 
What we have here is another blogger cutting and pasting from from a MSM source
 
Texas’ jobs bonanza for aliens


9 posted on 09/27/2011 1:12:56 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: VU4G10

Guess the author hasn’t ridden around Dallas, Houston or San Antonio. There are lots of cars down here from most of the other 57 states. Plus, the illegals have been self deporting since the housing industry hit the skids.


10 posted on 09/27/2011 1:17:57 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: normy
Interesting that I live here and I don't see it. I see people from Chicago here, and New York and Washington State. I see Ohioans and Pennsylvanians but the immigrant is harder to find.

Perhaps they are not in your part of the state...Texas will become increasingly a Democrat state. The graph below is projections based on 1990-2000 trends, I'm sure it's much worse based on 2000-2010 projections.


11 posted on 09/27/2011 1:18:22 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: jessduntno

>>> I’m sure the number is high, but I don’t think it’s THAT high. I’m not defending this guy...I’m not a fan, for sure...but I hate when we do this crap. Save this kind of exaggeration for the Dem candidate. >>

Exactly. This is a poorly thought out hit piece. OF COURSE most of the jobs created in the last four years went to people who just moved to a state - ANY STATE - that’s probably why they moved there in the first place.

And the reason so many who moved to Texas are from Mexico has a lot to do with geography and a poor job by the US Government on the border.


12 posted on 09/27/2011 1:19:42 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: txroadkill
The constant barrage of half truths and smears against Perry and Texas has really soured me to any candidate other than Cain or Newt. Perry is my guy but the tactics by Palin supporters, and I believe she backs this, is disgusting. I have never in my life seen such an active attack on a fellow Republican by Republicans.

I believe because of this, Perry will win the nomination because it's way too over the top.

13 posted on 09/27/2011 1:19:48 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: VU4G10

When a story such as this one repeatedly conflates illegal immigrants with legal immigrants, it can not be taken seriously.

One of my grandfathers and both of my grandmothers were immigrants. None of them were illegal immigrants.

Lumping them together like the author did is reprehensible.


14 posted on 09/27/2011 1:20:25 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: VU4G10

The link is DEAD.

Is this from the same source that said Perry had new-born babies for breakfast?


15 posted on 09/27/2011 1:21:12 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: jessduntno
I read that 40% went to immigrants where there is also the 81% It says immigrants not illegals..If someone wants a job there are jobs to be found..I knew of a place that moved to Mc Gregger and they were hiring 500 people now that was about a month ago..As for Perry giving theses jobs out then that is false..the employer is the one hiring and most of these people come from other states to get away from Unions and higher taxes..I have not works outside of the home in a long time but I can tell you I have no fear that I could not find any job I wanted if I qualified for it..We have lots of people that don't want to work just like other cities all they have to do is lay on their back and pop out one kid after another and Uncle Obama will give them Obama money..

All this is is another white house snow job..I would like to ask this question to the morons in Washington,Why don't you fools take care of the borders like we and Perry ask and there would not be so many illegals around not only that but they are letting thousands a day come through and they are drug cartel employees..

16 posted on 09/27/2011 1:25:11 PM PDT by PLD
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To: VU4G10

Shouldn’t the point be that there is WORK in Texas????????????


17 posted on 09/27/2011 1:25:43 PM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; VU4G10
This is an analysis from CIS: The Center for Immigration Studies. CIS not only opposes illegal immigration, as do most conservatives. They also oppose legal immigration and want to see serious reductions in legal immigration. This is a nativist organization that was founded and funded by John Tanton. Tanton is also responsible for FAIR and NumbersUSA, among other nativist groups who oppose legal immigration. There are also mentions of Tanton's ties to Stormfront and VDARE, two websites banned by FRee Republic for their fringe, hostile and violent beliefs.

The Wall Street Journal wrote an article on Congressional ties to fringe groups like these. Here's what the WSJ wrote about John Tanton. This came from an original FR thread dated June 17, 2004.

"During a immigration subcommittee hearing in March, Mr. Cannon had the gumption to question the executive director of CIS, Mark Krikorian, as well as to challenge Roy Beck, who heads NumbersUSA and serves as "spokesman" for CFAW. After first denying it, Mr. Krikorian was forced to admit that CIS is a spin-off of FAIR. In fact, CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA, Project-USA -- and more than a half-dozen similar groups that Republicans have become disturbingly comfy with -- were founded or funded (or both) by John Tanton, a retired doctor in Michigan. In addition to trying to stop immigration to the U.S., appropriate population-control measures for Dr. Tanton and his network include promoting China's one-child policy, sterilizing Third World women and wider use of RU-486. FAIR, where Mr. Krikorian once worked, is run by Dan Stein and shares advisers and personnel with CIS and other members of the Tanton nexus. As our Jason Riley noted in a March 15 op-ed, "By Dr. Tanton's own reckoning, FAIR has received more than $1.5 million from the Pioneer Fund, a white-supremacist outfit devoted to racial purity through eugenics." Representative Cannon says, "Tanton set up groups like CIS and FAIR to take an analytical approach to immigration from a Republican point of view so that they can give cover to Republicans who oppose immigration for other reasons."

18 posted on 09/27/2011 1:30:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: VU4G10

Perry is another John McCain.
Pick him and Obama will cruise to a second term.

The only people who want Perry are the establishment Republicans, RINOs all, who fear losing control of their party to Tea Party people who want to restore and protect America and its citizens, not the illegal - ILLEGAL - aliens.


19 posted on 09/27/2011 1:32:21 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Texas resident
There are lots of cars down here from most of the other 57 states.

LMAO, good one!
20 posted on 09/27/2011 1:33:10 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Peace through strength has worked better than peace via appeasement in history.)
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To: VU4G10
PERRY'S SUNK! DUMP HIM!
PERRY'S NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME, AND HE NEVER WILL BE!

HERMAN CAIN'S THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.!


21 posted on 09/27/2011 1:33:45 PM PDT by Savage Beast (YES WE CAIN!)
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To: normy

Over the top is supporting socialism and calling it something else. Taking citizens money and spending it to support illegals is socialism.


22 posted on 09/27/2011 1:34:21 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: normy
I would like to believe she would not, mainly because of the attacks she has endured. But it's OK, if Perry gets the nod these attacks will be used up and worthless when the Left tries to use them. But what gets me is the failure of Conservatives to understand that it is not now, nor has it ever been the job of the Texas Governor to secure the border, yet he and Brewer are the only two doing it, instead of thanking him they choose to criticize the way he is fighting the war he is not suppose to be fighting.

Conservatives should know better. We've got 1.1 to 1.2 million illegals in our state that we are not allowed to throw out, we have to feed, we have to provide healthcare for and thanks to the Supreme Court we have to educate all at the expense of the tax payers of the border states. Perry isn't the problem on the border, he didn't turn off the electronic frontier, he didn't recall the National Guard from the border, he isn't bussing them from California and dropping them off on a Texas border crossing that leads to a Mexican dessert and he damn sure wasn't the one who is arming the Narco-Terrorist that are killing Americans and Mexicans by the thousands. Obama did all of that.

23 posted on 09/27/2011 1:36:26 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: VU4G10

Not defending Perry or illegals working here, but what is the unemployment rate in Texas? What is the demographic break down of that unemployment.


24 posted on 09/27/2011 1:40:03 PM PDT by pallis
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To: org.whodat

bump!


25 posted on 09/27/2011 1:44:13 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: VU4G10
Here's a link to the original study.

"Growth in Employment. There are two ways to examine the share of employment growth that went to immigrants vs. natives in Texas during the economic downturn. One way is to compare the increase in total employment to the number of newly arrived immigrants holding a job. The second way is to compare the increase in employment to net growth in the number of immigrants holding a job. While there are differences in these two comparisons, no matter which method is used, the data show that a disproportionate share of job growth went to immigrant workers. "

"Legal vs. Illegal Immigration. It is well established that illegal aliens do respond to government surveys such as the decennial Census and the Current Population Survey. While the CPS does not ask immigrants if they are legal residents of the United States, the Urban Institute, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the former INS, the Pew Hispanic Center, and the Census Bureau all have used socio-demographic characteristics in the data to estimate the size of the illegal-alien population. We follow this same approach"

Perriwinkles will ignore that the employment numbers are taken from the BLS, and that the illegal alien estimates are done that in the same way as done by DHS, INS, PEW, Census Bureau, etc. Translation - the illegal alien number is low balled.
26 posted on 09/27/2011 1:47:02 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: org.whodat

No, socialism is the state owning the means to production, like a national oil or car manufacturer.

You can be against something without having to lie about it.


27 posted on 09/27/2011 1:47:39 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: VU4G10

He might leave that off his resume.


28 posted on 09/27/2011 1:48:20 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: All
Hogwash.

http://www.splcenter.org/publications/the-nativist-lobby-three-faces-of-intolerance/cis-the-independent-think-tank

There's a reason for that. Although you'd never know it to read its materials, CIS was started in 1985 by a Michigan ophthalmologist named John Tanton — a man known for his racist statements about Latinos, his decades-long flirtation with white nationalists and Holocaust deniers, and his publication of ugly racist materials.

CIS' creation was part of a carefully thought-out strategy aimed at creating a set of complementary institutions to cultivate the nativist cause — groups including the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA.

As is shown in Tanton's correspondence, lodged in the Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Tanton came up with the idea in the early 1980s for "a small think tank" that would "wage the war of ideas."

And while Tanton never actually ran CIS, his correspondence shows that as late as 1994, nine years after it was started, Tanton, who remains on FAIR's board of directors today, saw himself as setting the "proper roles for FAIR and CIS."

He raised millions of dollars for the think tank and published the writings of top CIS officials in his racist journal, The Social Contract. He maneuvered a friend on to the board of CIS — a man who shared his interest in eugenics and who attended events with Tanton where white nationalists gave presentations. Through it all, CIS pumped out study after study aimed at highlighting immigration's negative effects.

These studies have hardly been neutral. One of them concludes that because foreign women ("Third World gold-diggers") can obtain work permits by marrying American citizens, it's obvious that fraudulent marriage applications are "prevalent among terrorists."

Another claims that because many immigrants have worked in Georgia since 2000, it's clear that unemployment among less educated native workers is up. A third says that because immigration levels have been high recently, immigrants make up a growing share of those drawing welfare...............................

But every one these claims, each of them at the heart of a different recent report from CIS, are either false or virtually without any supporting evidence. That came to fore again last September, when CIS organized a panel to accompany the release of yet another new report, this one claiming that municipalities in substantial numbers were permitting non-citizens to vote. When challenged, the panelists could only come up with a single possible example of the purported trend.

"CIS' attempts to blame immigrants for all of the U.S.'s problems have been laughable," said Angela Kelley of the Immigration Policy Center, a Washington, D.C., organization that uses well-known scholars to produce reports on immigration-related issues and has debunked many of the studies issued by CIS. "It is clear that CIS is not interested in serious research or getting the facts straight."...................................................................

Krikorian has had considerable success in giving CIS the look of a reputable commentator on immigration. CIS regularly sends experts to testify to Congress and is frequently quoted by the mainstream media. But every now and then, the mask slips.

In 2007, a year before his comments on Washington Mutual, Krikorian accepted an invitation to speak at the Michigan State University chapter of Young Americans for Freedom.

It apparently didn't bother him that MSU-YAF had been widely covered in the media for a series of nasty stunts — staging a "Catch an Illegal Immigrant Day," holding a "Koran Desecration" competition, and posting "Gays Spread AIDS" fliers across campus.

He also didn't seem to mind being part of the same speakers series that included Nick Griffin, a Holocaust denier who heads the extremist British National Party, and Jared Taylor, who says blacks are incapable of civilization.

29 posted on 09/27/2011 1:49:43 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: VU4G10
Whenever someone throws around a statistic as specific as 81 when the underlying data is subject to interpretation I stop reading. The person using the stats are spreading BS. If they qualified their statements like "around 80%", then I might read farther.
30 posted on 09/27/2011 1:51:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TexMom7
I want to make sure that last line got read from my post above...

He also didn't seem to mind being part of the same speakers series that included Nick Griffin, a Holocaust denier who heads the extremist British National Party, and Jared Taylor, who says blacks are incapable of civilization.

31 posted on 09/27/2011 1:51:49 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: VU4G10

The story of American jobs and labor is deeply intertwined with predatory Federal, state and local taxation and regulation....

South Koreans sleep soundly on their border with NORKS because of American Taxpayer dollars and the American GI.

Why can’t Texans, New Mexicans, Arizonans and Californians?....BECAUSE

Illegal immigration is THE KEY to the perpetuation of the status quo in DC......

Predatory tax and regulatory policies-actions that basically serve to perpetuate and grow governments-leave what business is left in the country seeking disposable labor.

Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation. Interestingly, that is WHY the Feds encourage in-state tuition etc for illegals under-the-table -their presence providing disposable labor allows Federal, State and local regulatory and tax excess in the status quo to continue

Immigration is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...no matter how big their cowboy hat and six-gun.

Real”leadership” is that which will place Flyover Country’s interest ahead of the Feds....haven’t yet seen anything meaningful anywhere from anybody to indicate that might happen. We have just one more election cycle to make that happen via rule of law. Otherwise its the end of the run for America.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 1:57:47 PM PDT by mo
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To: TexMom7; Marty62
You and I are on the same page. See my post at #18.

This was posted by FReeper Marty62 earlier today.

"Gov. Perry’s communications director, Ray Sullivan, emailed the Tribune Friday morning to contest the findings in the CIS’s report. Sullivan suggests the 40 percent figure is wrong and cites the report’s own data to bolster his claim.

Below is the statement from Mr. Sullivan:

America’s unsecured border is a huge problem and the states are left with the resulting challenges, especially big states like California, Texas and Florida. In light of the federal government’s failure to secure the border, Governor Perry has championed border security, authorizing $400 million from Texas to fight border crime, and called for penalties against employers who hire illegal immigrants and an end to sanctuary city policies.

However, the numbers contained in and the conclusion of the CIS report are really off base and wrong. A central conclusion of this report is “40 percent of all the job growth in Texas since 2007 went to newly arrived illegal immigrants.

This finding is false. The numbers don’t add up.

Since Jan. 2007, Texas has created 384,700 net new jobs. Source: Texas Jobs Statistics from US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics/Total Nonfarm Seasonally Adjusted Change from Jan. 2007 – Aug. 2011 (Jan. 2007: 10,230,300 to Aug. 2011: 10,615,000)

40% of 384,700 jobs is 153,880 jobs.

The Department of Homeland Security data cited in the CIS report estimates that 60,000 illegal immigrants have arrived in Texas since 2007. Source: Department of Homeland Security report, Page 4, LINK

So if Texas created 384,700 jobs since 2007 and 40% of that is 153,880… and the CIS says 60,000 illegal immigrants arrived in Texas since 2007, then their conclusion must be false and numerically impossible."

33 posted on 09/27/2011 2:03:58 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
...CIS not only opposes illegal immigration, as do most conservatives. They also oppose legal immigration and want to see serious reductions in legal immigration. This is a nativist organization that was founded and funded by John Tanton. Tanton is also responsible for FAIR and NumbersUSA, among other nativist groups who oppose legal immigration. ...

ooh the nerve! Imagine not wanting the country flooded with ~ 40 million illegal aliens, plus anchor babies, and brand new immigrants on the dole who along with their respective extended families cost tax payers hundreds of billions dollars. I'm amazed you didn't add calling them heartless racists who lack compassion.
34 posted on 09/27/2011 2:05:06 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: VU4G10

Again? THis just happened yesterday. And the day before. And the day before. It seems every single day a whole NEW study comes out with the exact SAME bogus information.

Oh wait, it is the exact same REPORT with the exact same BOGUS information . We simply have to read it again and again and again, like it’s GroundHog day or something.


35 posted on 09/27/2011 2:10:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TexMom7

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


36 posted on 09/27/2011 2:10:45 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: txroadkill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


37 posted on 09/27/2011 2:11:30 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


38 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:18 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: VU4G10

Did I miss something? Headline reads: “Immigrants”. . . Not illegal immigrants . . . So what’s the problem?

PS Sarah’s my first choice, Herman’s my second.


39 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:35 PM PDT by HotKat
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To: normy

I believe most of the Republican posts agaihnst Perry have been since he revealed his true colors on Sept. 22. No one did that but Perry h8imself. Too bad, but better to know the truthsooner than later.


40 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOS NO MATTER WHAT!)
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To: VU4G10

Did I miss something? Headline reads: “Immigrants”. . . Not illegal immigrants . . . So what’s the problem?

PS Sarah’s my first choice, Herman’s my second.


41 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:45 PM PDT by HotKat
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To: VU4G10

Well, gee, who wants to hire heartless people?


42 posted on 09/27/2011 2:14:10 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Amnesty (ie: Perry/Rubio) will be the final death blow to the United States of America.)
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To: Zeppo; ZULU; normy; PLD; PSYCHO-FREEP; pallis; apocalypto; org.whodat; HotKat; Paperdoll

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


43 posted on 09/27/2011 2:16:43 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

You made an assumption based on what I did not say - therefore not understanding at all what I meant - and responded to me with information that is not relevant to my point at all - thus we are done here.

As an undecided with published cred on pro Palin and pro Cain articles (and nothing either way on Perry) I was simply saying that Digger’s particular argument was weak. Anything beside the particular argument made by Digger is totally not relevant to my argument.


44 posted on 09/27/2011 2:18:45 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: algernonpj

I don’t think the jobs created include illegals mainly because it is against the law to create a job for an illegal or hire one.

It would really stupid to report you hired an illegal.


45 posted on 09/27/2011 2:21:34 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: VU4G10

Exactly where do these statistics come from? Is there a line on the W-4 that asks if you are an immigrant? Legal or illegal? Country of birth? I don’t remember seeing that on any W-4s I’ve had to fill out.


46 posted on 09/27/2011 2:22:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: algernonpj
>>>>>>ooh the nerve! Imagine not wanting the country flooded with ~ 40 million illegal aliens..

Look, puppydog. My post was not about illegal immigration. I oppose illegal immigration and so do most conservatives. Guess you missed that part.

This has to with legal immigration and the efforts by John Tanton and his fellow nativists, racists and white-supremacists at CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA and their associates at Stormfront and VDARE, who support ideas like "racial purity through eugenics"". Tanton and his fellow fringers smearing Rick Perry. Not a novel idea but good to know.

This week its Tanton&Company. Last week it was Texans for Public Justice, a Democrat front group. Next week, who knows. LOL

47 posted on 09/27/2011 2:24:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Paperdoll

I can’t wrap my brain around the fact that Perry (and apparently a lot of other Texans) feel it’s perfectly logical to provide in-state tuition to an illegal from Mexico. While at the same time charging out-of-state tuition to a legal American citizen kid from Oklahoma, who might happen to live 1 mile from the Texas border.


48 posted on 09/27/2011 2:28:15 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: TexMom7
I don’t think the jobs created include illegals mainly because it is against the law to create a job for an illegal or hire one.

It would really stupid to report you hired an illegal.


Being illegal does not prevent at least 8 million illegals having jobs per PEW.

Of course you wouldn't report you hired an illegal; if you reported the hire of an illegal you would either report their false SSN given you or hire through a temp agency that vouched for them. There was a factory raided out west where every worker used the same SSN and the owner claimed there was no clue they were illegals.

Owning a business does not automatically make you honest!
49 posted on 09/27/2011 2:28:22 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Sorry to have confused you with the reality of the source of digger’s information ;)


50 posted on 09/27/2011 2:31:02 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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