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81% Of Texas Job Growth Under Perry Went To Immigrants
diggersrealm.com ^ | September 26, 2011 | By Digger

Posted on 09/27/2011 12:55:20 PM PDT by VU4G10

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To: VU4G10
PERRY'S SUNK! DUMP HIM!
PERRY'S NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME, AND HE NEVER WILL BE!

HERMAN CAIN'S THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.!


21 posted on 09/27/2011 1:33:45 PM PDT by Savage Beast (YES WE CAIN!)
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To: normy

Over the top is supporting socialism and calling it something else. Taking citizens money and spending it to support illegals is socialism.


22 posted on 09/27/2011 1:34:21 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: normy
I would like to believe she would not, mainly because of the attacks she has endured. But it's OK, if Perry gets the nod these attacks will be used up and worthless when the Left tries to use them. But what gets me is the failure of Conservatives to understand that it is not now, nor has it ever been the job of the Texas Governor to secure the border, yet he and Brewer are the only two doing it, instead of thanking him they choose to criticize the way he is fighting the war he is not suppose to be fighting.

Conservatives should know better. We've got 1.1 to 1.2 million illegals in our state that we are not allowed to throw out, we have to feed, we have to provide healthcare for and thanks to the Supreme Court we have to educate all at the expense of the tax payers of the border states. Perry isn't the problem on the border, he didn't turn off the electronic frontier, he didn't recall the National Guard from the border, he isn't bussing them from California and dropping them off on a Texas border crossing that leads to a Mexican dessert and he damn sure wasn't the one who is arming the Narco-Terrorist that are killing Americans and Mexicans by the thousands. Obama did all of that.

23 posted on 09/27/2011 1:36:26 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: VU4G10

Not defending Perry or illegals working here, but what is the unemployment rate in Texas? What is the demographic break down of that unemployment.


24 posted on 09/27/2011 1:40:03 PM PDT by pallis
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To: org.whodat

bump!


25 posted on 09/27/2011 1:44:13 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: VU4G10
Here's a link to the original study.

"Growth in Employment. There are two ways to examine the share of employment growth that went to immigrants vs. natives in Texas during the economic downturn. One way is to compare the increase in total employment to the number of newly arrived immigrants holding a job. The second way is to compare the increase in employment to net growth in the number of immigrants holding a job. While there are differences in these two comparisons, no matter which method is used, the data show that a disproportionate share of job growth went to immigrant workers. "

"Legal vs. Illegal Immigration. It is well established that illegal aliens do respond to government surveys such as the decennial Census and the Current Population Survey. While the CPS does not ask immigrants if they are legal residents of the United States, the Urban Institute, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the former INS, the Pew Hispanic Center, and the Census Bureau all have used socio-demographic characteristics in the data to estimate the size of the illegal-alien population. We follow this same approach"

Perriwinkles will ignore that the employment numbers are taken from the BLS, and that the illegal alien estimates are done that in the same way as done by DHS, INS, PEW, Census Bureau, etc. Translation - the illegal alien number is low balled.
26 posted on 09/27/2011 1:47:02 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: org.whodat

No, socialism is the state owning the means to production, like a national oil or car manufacturer.

You can be against something without having to lie about it.


27 posted on 09/27/2011 1:47:39 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: VU4G10

He might leave that off his resume.


28 posted on 09/27/2011 1:48:20 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: All
Hogwash.

http://www.splcenter.org/publications/the-nativist-lobby-three-faces-of-intolerance/cis-the-independent-think-tank

There's a reason for that. Although you'd never know it to read its materials, CIS was started in 1985 by a Michigan ophthalmologist named John Tanton — a man known for his racist statements about Latinos, his decades-long flirtation with white nationalists and Holocaust deniers, and his publication of ugly racist materials.

CIS' creation was part of a carefully thought-out strategy aimed at creating a set of complementary institutions to cultivate the nativist cause — groups including the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA.

As is shown in Tanton's correspondence, lodged in the Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Tanton came up with the idea in the early 1980s for "a small think tank" that would "wage the war of ideas."

And while Tanton never actually ran CIS, his correspondence shows that as late as 1994, nine years after it was started, Tanton, who remains on FAIR's board of directors today, saw himself as setting the "proper roles for FAIR and CIS."

He raised millions of dollars for the think tank and published the writings of top CIS officials in his racist journal, The Social Contract. He maneuvered a friend on to the board of CIS — a man who shared his interest in eugenics and who attended events with Tanton where white nationalists gave presentations. Through it all, CIS pumped out study after study aimed at highlighting immigration's negative effects.

These studies have hardly been neutral. One of them concludes that because foreign women ("Third World gold-diggers") can obtain work permits by marrying American citizens, it's obvious that fraudulent marriage applications are "prevalent among terrorists."

Another claims that because many immigrants have worked in Georgia since 2000, it's clear that unemployment among less educated native workers is up. A third says that because immigration levels have been high recently, immigrants make up a growing share of those drawing welfare...............................

But every one these claims, each of them at the heart of a different recent report from CIS, are either false or virtually without any supporting evidence. That came to fore again last September, when CIS organized a panel to accompany the release of yet another new report, this one claiming that municipalities in substantial numbers were permitting non-citizens to vote. When challenged, the panelists could only come up with a single possible example of the purported trend.

"CIS' attempts to blame immigrants for all of the U.S.'s problems have been laughable," said Angela Kelley of the Immigration Policy Center, a Washington, D.C., organization that uses well-known scholars to produce reports on immigration-related issues and has debunked many of the studies issued by CIS. "It is clear that CIS is not interested in serious research or getting the facts straight."...................................................................

Krikorian has had considerable success in giving CIS the look of a reputable commentator on immigration. CIS regularly sends experts to testify to Congress and is frequently quoted by the mainstream media. But every now and then, the mask slips.

In 2007, a year before his comments on Washington Mutual, Krikorian accepted an invitation to speak at the Michigan State University chapter of Young Americans for Freedom.

It apparently didn't bother him that MSU-YAF had been widely covered in the media for a series of nasty stunts — staging a "Catch an Illegal Immigrant Day," holding a "Koran Desecration" competition, and posting "Gays Spread AIDS" fliers across campus.

He also didn't seem to mind being part of the same speakers series that included Nick Griffin, a Holocaust denier who heads the extremist British National Party, and Jared Taylor, who says blacks are incapable of civilization.

29 posted on 09/27/2011 1:49:43 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: VU4G10
Whenever someone throws around a statistic as specific as 81 when the underlying data is subject to interpretation I stop reading. The person using the stats are spreading BS. If they qualified their statements like "around 80%", then I might read farther.
30 posted on 09/27/2011 1:51:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TexMom7
I want to make sure that last line got read from my post above...

He also didn't seem to mind being part of the same speakers series that included Nick Griffin, a Holocaust denier who heads the extremist British National Party, and Jared Taylor, who says blacks are incapable of civilization.

31 posted on 09/27/2011 1:51:49 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: VU4G10

The story of American jobs and labor is deeply intertwined with predatory Federal, state and local taxation and regulation....

South Koreans sleep soundly on their border with NORKS because of American Taxpayer dollars and the American GI.

Why can’t Texans, New Mexicans, Arizonans and Californians?....BECAUSE

Illegal immigration is THE KEY to the perpetuation of the status quo in DC......

Predatory tax and regulatory policies-actions that basically serve to perpetuate and grow governments-leave what business is left in the country seeking disposable labor.

Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation. Interestingly, that is WHY the Feds encourage in-state tuition etc for illegals under-the-table -their presence providing disposable labor allows Federal, State and local regulatory and tax excess in the status quo to continue

Immigration is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...no matter how big their cowboy hat and six-gun.

Real”leadership” is that which will place Flyover Country’s interest ahead of the Feds....haven’t yet seen anything meaningful anywhere from anybody to indicate that might happen. We have just one more election cycle to make that happen via rule of law. Otherwise its the end of the run for America.


32 posted on 09/27/2011 1:57:47 PM PDT by mo
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To: TexMom7; Marty62
You and I are on the same page. See my post at #18.

This was posted by FReeper Marty62 earlier today.

"Gov. Perry’s communications director, Ray Sullivan, emailed the Tribune Friday morning to contest the findings in the CIS’s report. Sullivan suggests the 40 percent figure is wrong and cites the report’s own data to bolster his claim.

Below is the statement from Mr. Sullivan:

America’s unsecured border is a huge problem and the states are left with the resulting challenges, especially big states like California, Texas and Florida. In light of the federal government’s failure to secure the border, Governor Perry has championed border security, authorizing $400 million from Texas to fight border crime, and called for penalties against employers who hire illegal immigrants and an end to sanctuary city policies.

However, the numbers contained in and the conclusion of the CIS report are really off base and wrong. A central conclusion of this report is “40 percent of all the job growth in Texas since 2007 went to newly arrived illegal immigrants.

This finding is false. The numbers don’t add up.

Since Jan. 2007, Texas has created 384,700 net new jobs. Source: Texas Jobs Statistics from US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics/Total Nonfarm Seasonally Adjusted Change from Jan. 2007 – Aug. 2011 (Jan. 2007: 10,230,300 to Aug. 2011: 10,615,000)

40% of 384,700 jobs is 153,880 jobs.

The Department of Homeland Security data cited in the CIS report estimates that 60,000 illegal immigrants have arrived in Texas since 2007. Source: Department of Homeland Security report, Page 4, LINK

So if Texas created 384,700 jobs since 2007 and 40% of that is 153,880… and the CIS says 60,000 illegal immigrants arrived in Texas since 2007, then their conclusion must be false and numerically impossible."

33 posted on 09/27/2011 2:03:58 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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...CIS not only opposes illegal immigration, as do most conservatives. They also oppose legal immigration and want to see serious reductions in legal immigration. This is a nativist organization that was founded and funded by John Tanton. Tanton is also responsible for FAIR and NumbersUSA, among other nativist groups who oppose legal immigration. ...

ooh the nerve! Imagine not wanting the country flooded with ~ 40 million illegal aliens, plus anchor babies, and brand new immigrants on the dole who along with their respective extended families cost tax payers hundreds of billions dollars. I'm amazed you didn't add calling them heartless racists who lack compassion.
34 posted on 09/27/2011 2:05:06 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: VU4G10

Again? THis just happened yesterday. And the day before. And the day before. It seems every single day a whole NEW study comes out with the exact SAME bogus information.

Oh wait, it is the exact same REPORT with the exact same BOGUS information . We simply have to read it again and again and again, like it’s GroundHog day or something.


35 posted on 09/27/2011 2:10:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TexMom7

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


36 posted on 09/27/2011 2:10:45 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: txroadkill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


37 posted on 09/27/2011 2:11:30 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26


38 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:18 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: VU4G10

Did I miss something? Headline reads: “Immigrants”. . . Not illegal immigrants . . . So what’s the problem?

PS Sarah’s my first choice, Herman’s my second.


39 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:35 PM PDT by HotKat
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To: normy

I believe most of the Republican posts agaihnst Perry have been since he revealed his true colors on Sept. 22. No one did that but Perry h8imself. Too bad, but better to know the truthsooner than later.


40 posted on 09/27/2011 2:12:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOS NO MATTER WHAT!)
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