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Tengo un Dream ( I have a Dream )
The Guatemala Times ^ | 27 September 2011 | Noah Gimbel

Posted on 09/27/2011 6:25:09 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

On August 26, just three blocks from San Francisco’s iconic City Hall, the veil was lowered from a 100-foot-wide, 30-foot-tall mural on the wall of the city’s Quaker Meetinghouse. Declaring No Human Being is Illegal, y Cada Uno Tiene un Sueño (and each one has a dream), the piece is the work of an immigrant-rights youth group called 67 Sueños (67 Dreams) whose mission is to raise awareness of the plight faced by the estimated 67 percent of migrant youth who would not benefit from the provisions of the DREAM Act.

The center of the mural portrays three young migrant figures saying, “67% of migrant youth: are pushed out of high school; are ignored by the media; are excluded from immigration reform.” To their left are symbolic indigenous figures and animals who have gathered, dream-like, before rolling green fields. Moving to the right, a grey cityscape overtakes the green fields, the sky turns dark, and the nightmarish realities of migrant life take shape. A desert graveyard bears the names of some of the many who have died on the journey north or in custody of U.S. law enforcement. Looming behind is the image of the separation wall. One youth is pictured climbing over the fence, while an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent arrests another .

The mural evokes the dichotomy between dream and reality – the latter more akin to a waking nightmare. This dichotomy also captures the tensions around the DREAM Act itself.

Only Some Can Dream

Officially called the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, the proposed DREAM Act would create a path to citizenship for undocumented youth under the age of 35 who entered the country before turning 16.

(Excerpt) Read more at guatemala-times.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; dreamact; guatemala; immigration
Guatemala is one of the poorest countries in the hemisphere. Its malnutrition rates are abysmal. It's wracked with corruption and violence and they think we want their citizens in our military.But the subjects of this legislation – the migrant youths themselves – were never given the opportunity to voice their concerns. Under the slogan “nothing about us without us,” ,, I am sure the parents are going to sit down with 1 year old and start asking about making the trip here and the 1 year old will offer complete details of what his wishes in the matter are. When you are kid what you say really does not matter. You go where the parents go, like it or not.
1 posted on 09/27/2011 6:25:14 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

I thought it was “Tengo un Deram”.


2 posted on 09/27/2011 6:28:41 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: Avery Iota Kracker

Simple: either we end up with a Quebec problem (two languages and cultures)

or we mainstream these youth, teaching them not just English, but all about the reasons behind the Bill of Rights, the American constitution, the heritage which the Founders inherited (learned) from the British experience.

Yes, it will cost; but it will cost the nation MUCH MORE if we allow a Quebec to develop.

(I know some people will say “send them home”. Nice.
But what if they aren’t going anywhere? )


3 posted on 09/27/2011 6:34:36 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: moonshinner_09

“the migrant youths themselves – were never given the opportunity to voice their concerns” (sniff)

Man, yer breaking my heart, the children ...
Oh I almost forgot—I don’t have a heart.

http://antiwar.com/radio/2011/07/01/v-noah-gimbel/


4 posted on 09/27/2011 6:42:38 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Avery Iota Kracker

Yo Tengo un Sueno


5 posted on 09/27/2011 6:43:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: moonshinner_09

“youth under the age of 35”

W.T.F?


6 posted on 09/27/2011 6:45:12 PM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; Bush, only without the staggering intellect and conservative comittment)
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To: moonshinner_09

Anything other than zero tolerance for illegal immigration is taking a crap on the rule of law and pissing all over what it means to be a USC.


7 posted on 09/27/2011 6:45:44 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Vendome

That’s Spanish for “I aint got a creative bone in my body, so I plagarize”


8 posted on 09/27/2011 6:46:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: moonshinner_09

“undocumented youth under the age of 35 ... “

I almost missed this, what the f...?! Yutes?


9 posted on 09/27/2011 6:46:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Grunthor

GMTA
When I was 35 I had a wife, family, job and mortgage.
Are we talking here about the type of French and English `youths’ who like to set cars on fire? Yeah, we definitely need more of those.


10 posted on 09/27/2011 6:49:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: tumblindice

At thirty five I was divorced, two kids, had not lived with parents in 18 years and if you ask a liberal, 35 is a child.


11 posted on 09/27/2011 6:54:02 PM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; Bush, only without the staggering intellect and conservative comittment)
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To: CondorFlight

In Central and South America, on the rare occasion that these parasites are allowed to vote for their leadership, do they more often support left wing socialists or Jeffersonian Constitutionalists and how do you think that will translate in a positive way here?


12 posted on 09/27/2011 6:59:52 PM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; Bush, only without the staggering intellect and conservative comittment)
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To: moonshinner_09

My sister goes down there, to Guatemala, on church missions.
If you want to see a really “heartless” immigration policy, check into how Mexico treats its neighbors to the south. There is no welfare system, no `safe houses,’ no Guatemalan gangs or peasants willing to work for nothing, no demonstrations, court appeals, public denunciations of Mexicans angry because their tax dollars are going to feed, house and clothe the “immigrants,” or tear-jerking articles, at least that I’ve seen here.
The federales catch them, give them a beat-down and dump them across the border. I suppose that’s our fault too, though. Author Noah Gimble can bite me.


13 posted on 09/27/2011 7:05:34 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: tumblindice

lol.


14 posted on 09/27/2011 7:07:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: tumblindice

lol and lol.


15 posted on 09/27/2011 7:09:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: moonshinner_09

Why can’t a special deal be worked with just San Francisco. If Mexico catches a Guatemalan, they get a choice: go home or go to San Francisco. Soon San Francisco is teeming with tens of thousands of Guatemalans trying to live in that choked socialist parody. Quick karma?


16 posted on 09/27/2011 7:11:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: moonshinner_09
Illegal is illegal. I blame the heartless parents for putting their children in this situation.

I would agree to the dream act only if part of the qualification process is that the parents must be deported with no possibility of return.

17 posted on 09/27/2011 7:49:18 PM PDT by GrannyAnn
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To: moonshinner_09

Paint remover or a sandblaster needed to remove the graffiti.

Deport ALL illegals, NO exceptions!
And I DO mean NONE, deport the Cubans too.
Let all of them use their U.S. experience to clean up their own country.


18 posted on 09/27/2011 7:54:07 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition
And I DO mean NONE, deport the Cubans too.

You might have other posts, and even this one, where you make good points. However, this one is just plain stupid, sorry. Cuban refugees are not the same as Illegal immigrants, they just aren't. You can't say "Come here" and then send them home. With the illegals, they were NEVER told to come here and were never given haven. C'mon, THINK man...

19 posted on 09/27/2011 8:50:26 PM PDT by Paradox (Democrats on Obama, They can't deny him, He is them.)
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To: CondorFlight

“or we mainstream these youth, teaching them not just English, but all about the reasons behind the Bill of Rights, the American constitution, the heritage which the Founders inherited (learned) from the British experience.”

That would be a bit difficult; they are Catholic.


20 posted on 09/27/2011 9:57:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Paradox
I never invited Cubans, or any other illegals. To be taken seriously and not compromised the policy has to be uniformly applied, it has to be "fair". Illegal = Illegal, no exceptions. Cuba's problems are not that different than Mexico's (or any of several sources of illegal invasion), until the native population gets sick of it and takes care of the situation nothing will change. See Nicolae Ceaușescu ([nikoˈla.e tʃa.uˈʃesku] of Rumania for a fairly recent proof and example that it CAN be done.
21 posted on 09/27/2011 10:08:16 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition
I never invited Cubans, or any other illegals

But our leaders did, explicitly. The Cubans are not, therefore, illegals.

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here, are you talking about deporting the Cubans that are already here, and have been for a couple of generations now?

22 posted on 09/28/2011 3:26:27 AM PDT by Paradox (Democrats on Obama, They can't deny him, He is them.)
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To: Grunthor

“youth under the age of 35”

Just like the muslim “youths” who riot and rampage.


23 posted on 09/28/2011 4:02:03 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Paradox

We currently have an F’d up policy on Cuban illegals.

“Wet foot” = Deported.
But “Dry foot”, having managed to reach our shore, = Get to stay.

This is inconsistent with our stated immigration policy for every other country.
It is ridiculous to have a split policy for any country, “Dry foot” should be deported too, they are just as illegal, but luckier to have reached shore before being caught.

So Cuba gets to use us as their safety valve, no real change will come to Cuba as those who get truly fed up leave, or are allowed to leave, even occasionally encouraged to leave.
The “safety valve” aspect is similar to Mexico.

We must have a simple and consistent policy, no favoritism for any reason.
Illegal = illegal = deported, NO exceptions for any reason.

If their country is crap, then THEY need to fix it, that might not be easy, too bad, they should not have let it get so foul to begin with.

We had our revolution, it was not painless.
They should not be allowed to take the easy way out and exploit our forefathers sacrifices at no cost to themselves.

I have reached the point that I would like to see a moratorium on ALL “immigration” for at least ten years, we need a breather to catch up with all the “Immigrants” legal and not, who are already here.
We have enough unemployed, stop importing more!


24 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:12 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition

So you mean the new immigrants, I thought you mean all the Cubans who came here years ago. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 11:30:01 AM PDT by Paradox (Democrats on Obama, They can't deny him, He is them.)
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