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Hispanic population outstrips estimates
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Posted on 09/28/2011 7:48:47 AM PDT by xzins

WASHINGTON, March 15 (UPI) -- At 38.7 million, the Hispanic population in the United States is larger than expected, an analysis of the 2010 Census by the Pew Hispanic Center indicates.

The 2010 Census counted nearly 600,000 more Hispanics than estimated in 28 states, the Pew Center said Tuesday.

The gap between the 2010 count and estimates of the Hispanic population by the Census Bureau were widest in states with relatively small Hispanic populations, Pew said.

It was more than 10 percent higher than expected in Alabama, Louisiana and Kansas.

"Hispanics are in some places growing faster than we had thought," said Pew demographer Jeffrey Passel. "This sort of broad pattern suggests immigration into these new areas was a bit higher."

Data released from 33 states indicated Hispanics accounted for 58 percent of population growth in the past decade.


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1 posted on 09/28/2011 7:48:52 AM PDT by xzins
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There are legal Hispanics and illegal Hispanics. What is the breakdown?


2 posted on 09/28/2011 7:54:28 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: xzins

you know those vague 20-30 that’s now 40 million lettuce pickers who pay taxes and take jobs Americans don’t want to do, like carpentry,painting,municipal road work,truck drivers,roofers,landscaping,movers,meat packing,poultry,supermarket workers...yeah those guys, operating an automated lettuce picker doesn’t pay enough......surprise,surprise.


3 posted on 09/28/2011 8:00:49 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: xzins

bump.


4 posted on 09/28/2011 8:03:32 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: xzins

38.7 million, the Hispanic population in the United States is larger than expected.
Thank you congress you rat s.o.d.’s.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 8:12:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Godwin1

It doesn’t give a breakdown. My guess is that very few illegals turned in Census forms. That would be like putting a target on their backs.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 8:14:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

in that case, there’s probably 80 million total.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 8:17:19 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

I agree with you, but I wouldn’t go as high as 80 million. Maybe 50. I don’t know how you’d estimate it.

Maybe some were picked up in that “statistical analysis” that the 2010 census supposedly used in some places, so if we took half the estimated illegal population of about 15 million or so, and added it to this reported number of about 40 million, then we’d have in the neighborhood of 45-50 million.

But that’s just a wild guess with lots of assumptions.


8 posted on 09/28/2011 8:23:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

“Hispanics are in some places growing faster than we had thought,” said Pew demographer Jeffrey Passel. “This sort of broad pattern suggests immigration into these new areas was a bit higher.”

The Hispanic Pew Center? How objective is that I wonder?

With all the immigration, both legal and illegal, it’s time for the USA to put the brakes on it. Catch our breath and see what maximum numbers we really want. I think taking a sabbatical would be in order since there’s so much illegals here. Use those resources to find and deport those not belonging here.


9 posted on 09/28/2011 8:25:53 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: xzins

I don’t care what the ethnic breakdown of the population is as long as most of them are Americans, love the flag and Constitution and support what America stands for.

Everything else is irrelevant.

The GOP has a lot of problems. The Tea Party is just the “Tonic” the doctor ordered. The next dose they need is to make a more vigorous outreach to the Hispanic and Black communities. They have to stop “writing off” these people DESPITE rebuffs from the racialists who try to dominate their politics.

With people like Marco Rubio, Colonel Allen West, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, and many others, we KNOW that there is hope for conservatism and loyalty among ALL ethnic groups in America.

Many of the troops which have fought and died for this country from its very inception have been black, and starting around WW2, Hispanic, in background.

As long as they consider themselves Americans first, that is all I care about.

And I am a white Anglo-American, despite the tagname.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 8:26:06 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: xzins; Travis McGee

oh great ...70% vote Democrat as a rule...sometimes more...especially among newer arrivals

Bush got maybe 38% according to some questionable polls in 2000

wow...38%!!!

folks better start caring unless you think you can change generations of voting habits on a dime..which you can’t

platitudes are not called that for nothing

do we have no GOP that will answer this with anything but pandering?


11 posted on 09/28/2011 8:32:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Since they were analyzing census data, they were speculating on the numbers provided them by the US Census.

The 40 million or so Hispanic number seems to make sense. So does the large population growth. Anglo couples tend to have a very low birth rate, just like their European counterparts, so it’s inevitable that America will eventually begin to take on the appearance of those having the most babies.


12 posted on 09/28/2011 8:32:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
My guess is that very few illegals turned in Census forms. That would be like putting a target on their backs.

Who would "target" them. My understanding is that illegal invaders were "encouraged" to cooperate with the census, more money and power for their "home" areas.

13 posted on 09/28/2011 8:33:26 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: xzins

even the legal ones that don’t speak english and can’t read or write won’t participate in a census. The census is counting only a specific group of hispanic...the legal ones that can read and write and speak english. That’s why I double the number. I suspect if a very thorough counting of all residents in the US was conducted, the breakdown would be like this:

40% caucasian
35% hispanic
10% black
10% mixed
5% all others


14 posted on 09/28/2011 8:33:47 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; indylindy; ...
Hispanic population outstrips estimates....2010 Census counted nearly 600,000 more Hispanics than estimated in 28 states, the Pew Center said Tuesday.

Phony Third World agit-prop---inflating the size of their voting blocs to rig elections and get their hands on US tax dollars.

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LATINO CENSUS SCAMS were outed right here on FR.

FR POST: I directly witnessed Hispanics ‘coach’ other Hispanics on what to say to California census takers ..... in order to: (1) inflate Hispanic numbers at the address, (2) to make up names, and, (3) list Hispanics living elsewhere as living at that address.

An Hispanic PhD candidate at a research foundation said the census scam was perpetrated to give latinos more representation...and more govt giveaways from vote-crazed candidates. That census game occurred 20 years ago and was being perpetrated in Hispanic communities throughout the West.

NOTE----Falsifying official documents is a felony. Providing false information to a census taker is a violation of federal and state law.

Keep in mind---latinos pay several thousand dollars to establish multiple identities with forged documents. Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities. Another illegal collected $3.5 million in UI checks using false identities.

=========================================

The census was co-opted and moved into the WH when Ohaha came in. The US census operation has been fully politicized. Dems are cooking the census books, manipulating the census, turning it into a vote-rigging machine.

Q. So how can the census be turned into a vote-rigging machine?

A. Census Bureau managers create, say 10,000 bogus census questionnaires, in each district. Lists of faked people are kept on file and registered to vote in various precincts. On election day, ringers are bussed in, armed with lists of registered names.....they then use the faked names to vote.

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REFERENCE----Two Census Bureau managers fired for creating at least 10,000 bogus questionnaires
New York Daily News | 6-26-10 | Samuel Goldsmith, Jake Pearson, Michael Mcauliff
FR Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010

Two Census Bureau managers from a Brooklyn field office were fired after their bosses found they faked household surveys the Daily News learned. --snip--

15 posted on 09/28/2011 8:33:59 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


16 posted on 09/28/2011 8:34:19 AM PDT by HiJinx ("Good government is the concern of all men." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: wardaddy

One issue is that we white folks don’t like to have babies anymore. Black folks have a huge number of their babies aborted.

Hispanics, on the other hand, many of them Catholic or from largely Catholic cultures, have large families and abort far fewer babies.

I understand that Asians were the 2nd leading growth group.


17 posted on 09/28/2011 8:35:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: B4Ranch

ping


18 posted on 09/28/2011 8:37:25 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Prokopton

I think some probably did, but if it were me, no way I’d trust a government agent of any kind.

I don’t, and I’m not Hispanic.

Wasn’t Reagan’s line about a horrifying prospect being someone saying, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.”


19 posted on 09/28/2011 8:38:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Your breakdown seems reasonable to me.


20 posted on 09/28/2011 8:39:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

I prefer the traditional Anglo oriented culture of America. This is an invasion of an alien culture that is not content with the 15 Hispanic nations south of the Rio Grande. They have to make America Hispanic too or at least large parts of it. They would not be succeeding except that Americans are too nice and have rolled over for this invasion. Plus Americans became too good to do certain jobs. Too lazy.


21 posted on 09/28/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: dennisw

See #17


22 posted on 09/28/2011 8:42:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: ZULU

We have to reach out to all Americans. But importing poor aggrieved minorities, natural Democrats, is not going to help. We have high unemployment. Now is the time to reduce immigration for all Americans, especially Blacks and Hispanic Americans who are primary losers to new immigrants and illegal aliens.


23 posted on 09/28/2011 8:44:40 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mamelukesabre

That’s ridiculous. There are 200 million whites in America.


24 posted on 09/28/2011 8:46:11 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

Well, I wasn;t talking about illegal invaders, regardless of origin. We don’t need them. We need to control who comes here.

But if we don’t need the impoverished people you are referring to, WE DON’T NEED “GUEST WORKERS” either. I don’t want them. I want people who want to be Americans.

Wiser heads than I should determine what our immigration quotas are. But it shouldn’t take SEVEN YEARS to become an American.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 8:48:52 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: xzins; wardaddy

The huge family stereotype of immigrants only lasts one generation...in my opinion. I see lots of asians and mexicans from HUGE families who grow up in america as americans and then all their siblings have ONE child. They have 12 brothers and sisters, 50 aunts and uncles, about 2 hundred cousins...but they choose to have only one child. Maybe two. And all their siblings and all their cousins do the same. There is something about modern western culture that makes people want only one or two kids...unless you are a white person, then you seem to want zero kids, a toyota prius, an iphone, an ipad, and two cats.


26 posted on 09/28/2011 8:53:24 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: ZULU
Well, I wasn;t talking about illegal invaders, regardless of origin. We don’t need them. We need to control who comes here.
Do we really need 1.2 million legal immigrants a year?

But if we don’t need the impoverished people you are referring to, WE DON’T NEED “GUEST WORKERS” either. I don’t want them. I want people who want to be Americans.
We can probably use a Bracero program, although mechanization of agriculture is long overdue.

Wiser heads than I should determine what our immigration quotas are. But it shouldn’t take SEVEN YEARS to become an American.

I disagree. Citizenship should be harder. The test is a joke and 7 years is not long enough to Americanize these days. Both of my parents are naturalized citizens.

Coincidentally, History Channel International is running its Barbarian series today. I suggest people DVR the Goths episode, which is on right now and will be replayed later today.

27 posted on 09/28/2011 8:54:49 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mamelukesabre; wardaddy
zero kids, a toyota prius, an iphone, an ipad, and two cats

Rotflol!

28 posted on 09/28/2011 8:55:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: rmlew

I suggest people DVR the Goths episode, which is on right now and will be replayed later today.

You don’t like Swedes?


29 posted on 09/28/2011 8:58:13 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: rmlew

the official number for hispanics is 16.5%. I say the reality is about double that when you count ALL hispanics illegal and legal and illiterate that don’t get counted. Double 16.5% is 33%.

obviously, some hispanics are white.

no, my numbers are not ridiculous.


30 posted on 09/28/2011 9:01:15 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Liz; stephenjohnbanker; Travis McGee
There's things to worry about and then there's thing to be deeply concerned about. The Hispanics can be controlled with a simple document check. Islam is another story.

“Fundamental Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in.” —Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoagland, speaking on radio in 1983.

“If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we’ve all worked toward for so long.” — President George Bush (January 1991)

I try to live by the Doc Holliday Principle:

When trouble comes, it’s not how many friends you have that counts − it’s what kind of friends they are.

31 posted on 09/28/2011 9:01:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: xzins

For 20 years or more the government and media have been telling us there are about 8 to 12 million illegals in the USA and about 1 million new illegals coming in every year.

But according to them there are still only 8 to 12 million illegals in the country.

It’s magic!


32 posted on 09/28/2011 9:02:10 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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To: Godwin1
There are legal Hispanics and illegal Hispanics. What is the breakdown?

I've read several times that about 1/3 of Hispanics in the US are illegal. And that's pretty consistent with the low ball 11 million illegals the government estimates, if you up estimate a few million, that is right around 1/3 of 39 million.

People should keep in mind that if we ever enforced immigration laws, that would force many self-deportations and all the demographic projections we see would not come about.

33 posted on 09/28/2011 9:02:38 AM PDT by Will88
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To: xzins
Wasn’t Reagan’s line about a horrifying prospect being someone saying, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.”

But that's only for hard working, tax paying citizens. It is music to the ears of a welfare sucking illegal invader.

34 posted on 09/28/2011 9:03:17 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: B4Ranch

My position on Islam is all non-citizen Muslims should be deported, all citizen Muslims should be treated like the Japanese in WW2, all mosques and madrassehs should be dismantled, and no more Muslims should be allowed in to America until the Saudis agree to let synagogues and Churches be built in Saudi Arabia and other religions to practice there also.

Islam is not a race and not a religion. Its an alien, fascist political ideology masquerading as a religion.


35 posted on 09/28/2011 9:11:18 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: ZULU

You have a clear comprehension of Islam. It is a religious culture, without a doubt.


36 posted on 09/28/2011 9:18:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: xzins

The Netherlands, England and France imported workers to replace the children they weren’t having, thinking they would pay for their retirements. Now 40% of the Netherlands immigrants are themselves on welfare while portions of French and English cities are claimed as sovereign muslim territory subject to sharia law. (These were invited immigrants.)
We’re next. What are we going to do about it? Nothing.
We can’t even control our own borders and our leadership shows no interest in taking any real steps to protect us from this foreign invasion of locusts and narco-terrorists.


37 posted on 09/28/2011 9:26:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: ZULU

Actually, I like Swedes. It is about the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the crippling the Eastern Roman Empire by the Goths, when they were allowed to cross the Danube.


38 posted on 09/28/2011 9:39:20 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: B4Ranch; Condor51

I think Doc Holliday actually said, “ When trouble comes,it’s not how many friends you have....it’s the number of guns you got loaded that count.”


39 posted on 09/28/2011 9:46:49 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: rmlew
Well, they came from Sweden.

I think the Roman Empire scenario does bear close resemblance to our own in the sense that prior to the Empire's collapse, people who were not Roman Citizens were recruited into the Roman army, required to learn Latin and served under officers who were Roman citizens - at least at the higher levels. For the most part, they were required to learn to be Romans, so that when they were finally discharged and given citizenship papers they had become de facto Romans.

After the massive civil wars in the Second Century, a lot of the Roman officer class were killed off. The Empire then began the insidious practice of recruiting non-citizens into their military forces, allowing them to serve under their own tribal chiefs, not requiring them to acculturate, and allowing them to fight with their own weapons and tactics.

In the case of the Goth, they had pressed against the eastern borders of the Empire in an effort to escape the Huns and sought asylum and protection from the Romans. The latter allowed them in, exploited them and attempted to disarm them. Eventually the Goths rose up and killed the Emperor in a battle and defeated the Roman Army.

However, the Goths DID admire the Empire and its civilization and attempted under one of their king, Theodoric, to fuse the Goths and Romans as a people and bring back the Empire.

I guess the moral for us is to REQUIRE new citizens to learn English and learn to accept our culture, while keeping their own, should they so desire.

40 posted on 09/28/2011 9:58:45 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: xzins; mamelukesabre

Problem is hispanic illegitimacy is now approaching that of blacks....which in my day was only 20%...whites were .05% then....hispanics were MIA

First slaver revenge

Now conquistador blowback from what are mostly indians
We’re getting our asses kicked
We civilized all of them and this is the thanks we get?....ingrates

I am one oppressive white guy breeding lika rabbit and I love it.....raising them hardcore too


41 posted on 09/28/2011 10:02:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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To: xzins; mamelukesabre

Problem is hispanic illegitimacy is now approaching that of blacks....which in my day was only 20%...whites were .05% then....hispanics were MIA

First slaver revenge

Now conquistador blowback from what are mostly indians
We’re getting our asses kicked
We civilized all of them and this is the thanks we get?....ingrates

I am one oppressive white guy breeding lika rabbit and I love it.....raising them hardcore too


42 posted on 09/28/2011 10:03:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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To: xzins

UNEXPECTED !


43 posted on 09/28/2011 10:06:21 AM PDT by traumer
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To: wardaddy

Say hi to all your kids. :>)

America’s future is a real mother!


44 posted on 09/28/2011 10:13:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins; mamelukesabre

You don’t have Asians in that breakdown.


45 posted on 09/28/2011 10:23:13 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

He had an “all others” category. I think Asians grew and that there are approaching 10 million Asians now.


46 posted on 09/28/2011 10:25:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

When does a person stop being Hispanic (as if that is anything other than a political designation) and start being an American?


47 posted on 09/28/2011 10:38:22 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: xzins

Yes Asians are 2nd largest immigrant growth group. We are swamped with illegal alien Chinese and illegal alien Muslims from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India. Filipinos used to all come here legally but now they also come illegally. Lots of Korean immigrants. So the Asian population is so huge it is natural they will be the second largest group of immigrants legal and illegal.


48 posted on 09/28/2011 10:44:04 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: xzins
Hispanic population outstrips estimates

I guess hispanics are just really good strippers, then.

49 posted on 09/28/2011 10:44:18 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: mamelukesabre

What is the thing with cats lately? I saw more feral/stray cats around everywhere we went on vacation this summer (a 4 day drive across the country). And I mean seriously LOTS of them. They are everywhere. It’s like an alien (as it from another planet) invasion... Sorry, your mention of cats made me think of it.


50 posted on 09/28/2011 10:44:30 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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