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Amazon Takes on Apple iPad With Kindle Fire Tablet
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Posted on 09/28/2011 3:55:09 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Putting to rest the endless speculation, Amazon on Wednesday officially introduced not one, not two, but four new Kindle devices. The company aims to lock up the e-reader market with an entry-level $79 Kindle, and to do what countless tech companies have failed at: building a color tablet device at a reasonable price that can compete with Apple's wildly successful iPad.

The Kindle Fire is that gadget.

It's designed mainly as a media consumption device rather than a touch computer and it undercuts Apple's iPad by hundreds of dollars—$199 compared to $500 for an iPad. It will go on sale November 15.

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The Fire uses a dual-core processor and the latest version of Google Android software and looked zippy in hands-on demonstrations. Apps will also be available for the device, but Amazon is clearly focused on tying its own services into the tablet.

“This is an end-to-end service,” Bezos emphasized in his presentation in New York City. He touted not only the book store but the Amazon Prime service, which offers streaming movies and programs for an annual $79 subscription. So far, Amazon has lined up some big content providers, including Fox for movies, but still lacks the catalog depth of competing Netflix. According to Amazon, it is still interested in having a Netflix app on the Kindle Fire, as well as other popular competing services, such as Pandora. Such apps are not available yet, however.

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KEYWORDS: amazon; kindle
Looks very nice and is a perfect price point.

I pre-ordered one today as these are going to sell out.

1 posted on 09/28/2011 3:55:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Forgot to add, the fact that it plays Flash is very nice, as a sizable portion of the web is lash enabled. Too bad Apple doesn’t trust consumers enough for them to turn on Flash should they wish.


2 posted on 09/28/2011 3:56:17 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I've still not figured out what all the fuss is over iPads and "like" devices. (I hate touchscreens period, don't like fingerprints on my screen!)

But what does a iPad like device do for me my phone or computer won't do?

3 posted on 09/28/2011 4:02:25 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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But what does a iPad like device do for me my phone or computer won't do?

Shows you have more money than brains?

4 posted on 09/28/2011 4:05:59 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Does it still have the nice, Kindle e-ink display, or is it glossy like the others so it will collect fingerprints and be hard to see?


5 posted on 09/28/2011 4:07:21 PM PDT by jwalburg (I live in the 57th state.)
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Not sure. I have a Kindle and am going to use that as my e-reader. This will be primarily for surfing the web.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 4:09:20 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: FatherofFive
But what does a iPad like device do for me my phone or computer won't do?

Shows you have more money than brains?

Bada Bing! lol...

7 posted on 09/28/2011 4:09:56 PM PDT by ToxicMich (If I catch you sleeping in this space AGAIN, I'M GONNA KICK YOUR # "?/%")
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To: FatherofFive
"Shows you have more money than brains?"

Ahhh, that might explain why the friends I know who rushed out to buy these vital bits of gadgetry have now mostly abandoned them and their kids use them to play games now.

One of my friends showed me how I could use it to play piano/organ. He started the piano app and had me play figuring I would be won over immediately. I tried the gizmo and it had problems tracking my keystrokes. Not sure if it was an issue with my finger positioning or the screen being smudged or just the app being buggy but it worked poorly.

8 posted on 09/28/2011 4:14:11 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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But what does a iPad like device do for me my phone or computer won’t do?

***

iPad replaces your notebook given:

1) most people consume, rather than produce content
2) better security than a laptop
3) easier administration than a laptop
4) easier to use than a laptop
5) solid state, so 10 hour battery life


9 posted on 09/28/2011 4:16:10 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: ROTB

Add to that list for the Kindle.....

Can take to the beach and out by the pool because of the e-ink.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 4:19:21 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have a Kindle that has the forever 3G ($189 total). Love it. The guy who runs a Kindle blog I visit suggested that to compete against Apple in the pad market, Amazon must offer something in the $200-$250 range. Trying to fight on Apple’s turf of “prestige appeal” was a no-win, for anyone.


11 posted on 09/28/2011 4:20:30 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: FatherofFive
I had just bought a new desktop and a new laptop when I was given an iPad. I use the iPad much more than the other 2 combined. I can hold it in one hand and have gotten pretty good at typing with one hand. I have about 45 books on it already plus lots of music. Y'all do not know what you are missing.
12 posted on 09/28/2011 4:20:50 PM PDT by MamaB
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i’m impressed. my wife loves her ipad and i like my kindle. but a dual processor for 199 with all their online content is quite strong. competition for ipad for first time.


13 posted on 09/28/2011 4:38:32 PM PDT by CrouchingTiger620
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To: CrouchingTiger620

betamax vs VHS

the tablets (this includes the ipad) have to come down to around $100 OR LESS.

MS better get in the game or they are just going to end up a video box company like sega...


14 posted on 09/28/2011 4:49:26 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I also pre-ordered one today. Amazon is so much better than anyone at integrating services, I expect the Kindle Fire to make the iPad look clunky by comparison, and this is only the first generation. What's more Amazon doesn't restrict you like Apple does. That's why I will ever own an Apple product, I don't care for the way in which they always want to be in control. OTOH Amazon will sell you MP3s you can download for a buck and do whatever you want with. You'll be able to buy books from Amazon, magazines, blogs, movies, TV shows, and whatever else, and Amazon will back them up for you in the cloud via Wispernet, and you pay not a penny for the monhly service. Amazon even has out of print films that aren't available anywhere else but the Amazon Box player. These and everything else Amazon can sell you will be fully integrated with the Kindle Fire, which will display your email, and surf the Internet with its own Silk browser, developed by Amazon, and said to be faster than anyother browser. Apple has nothing to compare to this, and it costs $200, about 1/4 the cost of an iPad.
15 posted on 09/28/2011 5:46:31 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

So, can I sideload my own videos onto the Kindle Fire and play them?


16 posted on 09/28/2011 5:50:53 PM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: Mad Dawgg

I know I am not a “mainstream user” of the iPad, but I do use it “productively”.

I design on my iMac, mostly complicated Aran knitting patterns, sock patterns, and lace knitting patterns. I download these to the iPad, and do not need to carry around the books and paper patterns for my knitting.

I can keep up with what the market is doing, (and place an order) without having to be at home, and if stuck waiting, I can play a good game to improve my mental sharpness.

I can read a downloaded book, or if really stuck, can sit and knit from the iPad pattern, while listening to a good mystery/techno political thriller.

Also, can check my email, check on FR, the weather, listen to the radio, find a map to get me where I need to go, or find the closest yarn shop.

What else does a silver-haired granny need? AHA! instant photos of the grands to bore the socks off total strangers when they ask to see what the iPad can do!

Just my 2 pennies....


17 posted on 09/28/2011 5:57:15 PM PDT by jacquej
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"Just my 2 pennies...."

I understand but everything you listed I can do with my Laptop or cell phone. (plus much more)

Which takes us back to the original question What does it do that those two items can't?

18 posted on 09/28/2011 6:43:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: shorty_harris

You should be able to load your own videos. It only has 8 GB of storage, so you’ll be limited.

It supports: Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, Audible (Audible Enhanced (AA, AAX)), DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV, MP4, VP8.

Of those, MP4 is a pretty standard video codec.


19 posted on 09/28/2011 6:56:04 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Mad Dawgg

Tablets are more about doing the couple things you need in a convenient unit, rather than doing things a laptop or phone can’t do.

An iPad is more portable than a laptop, but more usable than a phone. It’s a first-world item for people who can afford a phone, laptop and tablet.

I’ve been surprised how many lawyers are using iPads as their courtroom computers. For them, it’s replacing a laptop they used primarily to read documents.


20 posted on 09/28/2011 6:59:52 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Red in Blue PA

Flash is trash.


21 posted on 09/28/2011 7:03:56 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"I understand but everything you listed I can do with my Laptop or cell phone. (plus much more)"

Try to do something on your laptop while standing in the middle of the room...

22 posted on 09/28/2011 7:14:42 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
What does it do that those two items can't?

Attract muggers?

23 posted on 09/28/2011 7:16:17 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: TXnMA
"Try to do something on your laptop while standing in the middle of the room..."

Ahh I can hold my laptop in one hand and type with my other and use the touchpad also.

24 posted on 09/28/2011 7:26:35 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: shorty_harris

From the Amazon Website:

Content Formats Supported Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively, Audible (Audible Enhanced (AA, AAX)), DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, non-DRM AAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG, WAV, MP4, VP8.

So, the answer appears to be yes, but you can only store Amazon content on their cloud service. Otherwise, the Kindle Fire has only 8G of internal storage.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 7:34:12 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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does it have a slot for an sd or microsd card?


26 posted on 09/28/2011 7:45:31 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I would buy one but ironically I am being seasonally laid off until next spring here in Alaska around that release date, and thats just spending money frivolously IMHO.


27 posted on 09/28/2011 7:49:19 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Sarah Palin and John Bolton--- 2012)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Right price point, but technically, no thanks.

Besides using a highly-customized version of a very old version of Android, the device's high reliance on "cloud computing" to access Amazon-bought media and its paltry 8 GB of storage makes it a bit less attractive than I thought. Indeed, I see the Amazon Kindle Fire as a direct competitor against the Barnes & Noble Nook Color, not as a competitor against the iPad.

28 posted on 09/28/2011 8:28:53 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: zeugma

No, it doesn’t have an SD/MSD slot, but there is a micro USB port. Possibly you could use a flash drive to store media and play it on the Kindle Fire.


29 posted on 09/28/2011 10:16:00 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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What's more Amazon doesn't restrict you like Apple does. That's why I will ever own an Apple product, I don't care for the way in which they always want to be in control.

You nailed it.

Apple should have made Flash an optional thing to be turned on by the ipad user. Instead, they take away all choice. They do this in everything they do, which is why I stay away from Apple.
30 posted on 09/29/2011 4:57:21 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Petruchio
Attract muggers?

I downloaded a 1911 app.
31 posted on 09/29/2011 4:59:56 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Sorry to take so long to get back to you.

My iPhone screen is too small to accurately view my knitting charts, many web sites, and other documents. I have “aging eyes” with trifocals.

My MacBook Pro was a bit heavy and awkward to haul along with me, along with the knitting projects du jour, when running errands that required waiting, traveling, teaching a class, etc.

And, the battery life on the iPad is much longer than either the MacBook Pro, or the iPhone. And, I can read my eBooks on it much more easily when traveling, on the couch, or in bed.

But, you seem happy with what you have, so your needs must be different than mine.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 10:45:38 AM PDT by jacquej
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