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Fla. Man Executed Amid Injection Controversy
CBS News ^ | September 28, 2011

Posted on 09/28/2011 8:24:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A Florida man convicted of killing a police officer during a traffic stop 33 years ago has been executed at the Florida State Prison. The governor's office said Manuel Valle was pronounced dead at 7:14 p.m. Wednesday. He was the first Florida prisoner to be executed with a new mix of lethal drugs.

Valle fatally shot Coral Gables officer Louis Pena in 1978. He also shot fellow officer Gary Spell, who was saved by his bulletproof vest.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; florida; legal

1 posted on 09/28/2011 8:24:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. It does not guarantee a painless execution.


2 posted on 09/28/2011 8:27:01 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud
The constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. It does not guarantee a painless execution.

They should just OD them on heroin. People PAY to do that frequently. Sometimes they almost succeed, and PAY to do it again. It cannot therefore be construed as either cruel or unusual.

3 posted on 09/28/2011 8:36:26 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: nickcarraway

nitrogen asphyxiation - the cleanest, sure fire, low cost, environmentally friendly, painless way to execute someone


4 posted on 09/28/2011 8:37:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: nickcarraway

Justice.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 8:38:11 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: nickcarraway

“The Danish manufacturer of pentobarbital, Lundbeck, has also asked Florida to refrain from using its product in lethal injections.”

Gotta love the Europeans with their morals. They are fine with people, who are no longer of any value to society over there, being put to death (as in euthanasia), but not the same here.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 8:46:06 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Huh? Thirty-three (some) years??

Without getting into the DP itself as an “issue”, the gold standard was prior to FDR taking office. He was in Florida, and some nut job tried to shoot him - while Roosevelt wasn’t injured, the mayor of Chicago, Tony Cermak was severely injured.

Halfway through the trial, Mr. Cermak died. So, in midstream the defendant was charged with murder.

He was captured, arraigned, charged, tried, convicted, and executed.

In Thirty-three DAYS.


7 posted on 09/28/2011 8:46:49 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: umgud
It does not guarantee a painless execution.

And for all that, they get a painless execution anyway.

8 posted on 09/28/2011 8:48:31 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: nickcarraway
Painless execution


9 posted on 09/28/2011 8:54:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like the combo worked just fine.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 8:55:19 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: nickcarraway
I personally dspise lethal injection as a form of execution. Bring back Sparky, hanging, or a firing squad.

The reason I say that is that I believe that an execution should always be recognized as the violent act that it is.

Execution is the State taking a life. I abhor the clinical, medical veneer of a lethal injection...

11 posted on 09/28/2011 8:58:27 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: umgud

As for the “new cocktail of drugs” Hey, it worked!


12 posted on 09/28/2011 9:02:04 PM PDT by politicalmerc (The whole earth may move, but God's throne is never shaken. I think I'll stand by Him..)
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To: nickcarraway
I was born and raised in Coral Gables. Graduated from Gables High as did both my sisters, my wife and our daughter. It's still my home. I have known many many Gables cops over the years. I remember when this happened. I was away at school, but heard all about it very quickly for the pre computer/pre- cell phone era. I didn't know either of the officers involved. I'm sorry it took 33 years to execute this scum bag. But at last a painful episode in the history of the City of Coral Gables and it's excellent PD has been (very) finally closed.
13 posted on 09/28/2011 9:03:31 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: nickcarraway

WTF took so long!!!!


14 posted on 09/28/2011 9:04:18 PM PDT by Postman (Cut, Cap and BBA)
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To: nickcarraway

Good riddance, you POS. May you rot in hell, along with the taxpayer-paid do-gooder lawyers that delayed this for 33 years.


15 posted on 09/28/2011 9:12:30 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s only a “controversy” when you’ve got a bunch of braindead celebrities luggin a load around in their Huggies. Everyone else could really give a ... Adios amigo!


16 posted on 09/28/2011 9:15:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gives them $535 million and they take "the fifth" when asked where it went.)
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To: taxcontrol

so is a .45!


17 posted on 09/28/2011 9:16:02 PM PDT by occamrzr06 (One day this will all make sense!)
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To: occamrzr06

With a .45 you are not 100% sure of no suffering. Plus there is the blood splatter from potentially HIV contaminated blood.


18 posted on 09/28/2011 9:18:41 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: nickcarraway

Murderers on death row need to Man Up and stop all of their crying and whining about the sting they feel from the needle during their execution.


19 posted on 09/28/2011 9:19:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gives them $535 million and they take "the fifth" when asked where it went.)
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To: Freedom4US

“You give me electric chair. I no afraid of that chair! You one of capitalists. You is crook man too. Put me in electric chair. I no care!”


20 posted on 09/28/2011 9:21:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Thirty-three years?


21 posted on 09/28/2011 9:21:54 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Freedom4US

“Viva Italia! Goodbye to all poor peoples everywhere! Push the button!”


22 posted on 09/28/2011 9:22:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: taxcontrol

The Constitution say no cruel and unusual punishment. It doesn’t say NO suffering.

If you point it the right way, it splatters away from you.


23 posted on 09/28/2011 9:22:52 PM PDT by occamrzr06 (One day this will all make sense!)
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To: Carry_Okie
They should just OD them on heroin. People PAY to do that frequently. Sometimes they almost succeed, and PAY to do it again. It cannot therefore be construed as either cruel or unusual.

I like this idea.

24 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:38 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: nickcarraway

Took long enough.
Buh-bye, scumbag.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sargon

Totally agree.


26 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:58 PM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Freedom4US

Wow. When I saw “1978” it occured to me that that was the year my 51 Y.O. brother graduated high school. The system is sick.


27 posted on 09/28/2011 9:28:36 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Carry_Okie

That’s brilliant!


28 posted on 09/28/2011 9:30:31 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Earth first! We can log the other planets later")
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To: Carry_Okie

That’s brilliant!


29 posted on 09/28/2011 9:30:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Earth first! We can log the other planets later")
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To: taxcontrol; occamrzr06
With a .45 you are not 100% sure of no suffering.

So true.

You could pull a muscle on your trigger finger, or get a a mild strain from the recoil if it hits you wrong.

30 posted on 09/28/2011 9:41:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Amberdawn
Wow; he must’ve been really dumb. So he's like, 84, now?
31 posted on 09/28/2011 9:44:46 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: taxcontrol; mrreaganaut

Great idea, and ‘green’ too!


32 posted on 09/28/2011 9:44:54 PM PDT by reaganaut (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: nickcarraway
33 years ago? That's justice? He should have been executed 33 hours after the guilty verdict. Good riddance scumbag.
33 posted on 09/28/2011 9:46:38 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Longbow1969
I like this idea.

Simple, isn't it?

I can't stand these thugs playing with our money while they cite bogus claims when the obvious solution hangs in front of everybody's noses. Nobody mentions it because the left wants a world where crooks get away with murder and the public pays for it. Isn't that obvious by now?

34 posted on 09/28/2011 9:48:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: VeniVidiVici

One of my personal favorites...

Seriously, my professional research area is death and disease in the Middle Ages, torture and executions are part of that.


35 posted on 09/28/2011 10:14:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: FredZarguna

Lol! That was the year my NOW 51 y.o. bro graduated...


36 posted on 09/28/2011 11:11:36 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: nickcarraway

NEXT!


37 posted on 09/28/2011 11:22:48 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: nickcarraway

33 years. What a joke.


38 posted on 09/28/2011 11:40:15 PM PDT by onona (Words spring songs in my head, what can I say ?)
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To: ExSoldier

I was born and raised just E. of Coral Gables.
Was living there in 1978 and honestly don’t remember this incident.

That’s the main problem w/ Capital Punishment.
The time between the crime and execution is so long the two become detached.
No cause and effect. No deterrent.


39 posted on 09/29/2011 2:38:05 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: nickcarraway

“He also shot fellow officer Gary Spell,”

Was Valle an officer, or is this just poor writing posted by a major news outlet?


40 posted on 09/29/2011 2:42:15 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: taxcontrol
nitrogen asphyxiation - the cleanest, sure fire, low cost, environmentally friendly, painless way to execute someone

I had a doctor apply some of that, in liquid form to a wart on my finger, it was anything but "painless", she might as well have used a blow torch.

41 posted on 09/29/2011 4:36:31 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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Wow. When I saw “1978” it occured to me that that was the year my 51 Y.O. brother graduated high school. The system is sick.

Amberdawn, I wuz gonna zing you for that remark but I checked first and saw that somebody already did and also that you are a good sport and laughed at your own funny miscomment.

42 posted on 09/29/2011 4:46:13 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: umgud
The Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment

This is true except it apparently doesn't apply to the families of victims. Liberals have caused the families to be punished cruelly for years while they rally around these vermin and prevent their executions. This family waited 33 years for justice. That's totally unacceptable.

43 posted on 09/29/2011 4:55:47 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Freedom4US

I agree it took too long.


44 posted on 09/29/2011 5:48:16 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Graybeard58
Nitrogen asphyxiation is the result of an atmosphere breathed where there is too little oxygen. This causes the person to pass out and without intervention, die. This condition is very dangerous because there are no warning signs. No smell, no feeling of panic or that you can't breath. The victim just falls asleep.
45 posted on 09/29/2011 8:59:36 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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