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Limbaugh: GOP Establishment "Does Not Want A Conservative Getting The Nomination"
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Posted on 09/28/2011 9:18:22 PM PDT by tsowellfan

RUSH LIMBAUGH: My friends, do not doubt me. I know this is going to shock many of you, and maybe disappoint a lot of you. But when you talk about the Republican establishment -- and you've read their pieces today -- you know what I'm talking about: The columnists, the magazine directors, editors, publishers, whatever, they are reaching and searching for a counter to the conservatives. They don't want Herman Cain getting the nomination; they don't want Perry getting the nomination; they don't want Bachmann getting the nomination. The Republican establishment does not want a conservative getting the nomination...

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1 posted on 09/28/2011 9:18:24 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

We conservatives have to take away the GOP from the “moderates” and liberals.


2 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:01 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: tsowellfan

Rush is right except Perry. I think they’d accept Perry.


3 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:29 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: tsowellfan

ditto.


4 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:36 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: tsowellfan

Who’s the conservative establishment exactly? I might put Rush in it. Bill Kristol spoke very highly of Herman Cain on Special Report and Fox News Sunday last week. Previously he played a big role in promoting Palin for VP. He seems pretty establishment conservative, but I don’t see him rooting for Romney.

Grover Norquist? I expect he’s not a Romney guy either.

So who exactly are these establishment Republicans? Michael Steele? George W. Bush?


5 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:49 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: tsowellfan

The GOP establishement are comprised of liberals. Period.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 9:26:51 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: tsowellfan
Like the WWI generals who were in a cold sweat over the German breakthrough in France, the Republican establishment can't think past the decades of trench warfare where gaining and losing a few yards was what it was all about. They can't even conceive of breaking the fascist democrat party into pieces and then destroying it completely. Look at how they reacted to Reagan and how they handled the impeachment of Clinton. They're so used to the old battle lines that that can't consider victory, only temporary gains they can make to use for the equivalent of prisoner exchanges.

It's time to stop thinking that the sixty years of fascist majorities in Congress were the norm because the democrat fascist party is too strong to defeat. We have to destroy the fascist democrat party as a national political force and we have to do it NOW!

The democrat party is now and always has been the party of slavery, sedition, treason, secession, civil war, KKK terrorism, Jim Crow laws, eugenics laws, constant voter fraud, constant voter intimidation, anti-Semitic immigration restrictions (in response to Nazi Nuremberg laws), advocates of titles of nobility for protected classes of citizens who are above the law, creators of anti-Christian mythology, creators of the welfare plantation system, advocates of infanticide and euthanasia as well as being the party that designed, implemented, and fights to lavishly fund the systematic, eugenics driven, mass murder of minority infants. The democrat party has to be so thoroughly destroyed as a national political party that it is no longer a factor in national politics. Refusing to support less than pure alternatives over a pet peeve, sitting out elections, or doing anything that keeps you from helping or influences others to not help rid ourselves of these parasites while we're force fed democrat arsenic, is either deliberate democrat supporting fifth column activity or your personal agreement that we should commit national suicide. The entire democrat machine, including both government employee unions and the democrat academic rewards and propaganda infrastructure needs to be fought until, to paraphrase Bull Halsey, “ ... democrat is only spoken in hell”.

JMHO

Regards

7 posted on 09/28/2011 9:27:45 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: tsowellfan
After 4 years of Obama, DC owes us a true conservative.
8 posted on 09/28/2011 9:28:22 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: tsowellfan

9 posted on 09/28/2011 9:30:28 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep repeating it.....)
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To: Jack Black

Bill Kristol talked up Cain last week to drop Perry. Today he wants Christie in the race to take down Cain.

He’s the worst.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 9:31:37 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: unkus

They should- Perry is a fiscal Conservative and a social liberal. Pro amnesty. Pro illegal alien.


11 posted on 09/28/2011 9:31:52 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: tsowellfan

Rush: that point is so obvious one need not even comment upon it. Everything the Tea party people force Bonehead to take a conservative stand against Zero, he looks as though someone called and told him his car was on fire.


12 posted on 09/28/2011 9:33:19 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: tsowellfan

the question is why?

Morning traitor Joe has trashed Perry all along

is said Herman Cain isn’t gonna win anything


13 posted on 09/28/2011 9:34:00 PM PDT by jasonongoco2009
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Palin ain’t running, Cain won’t make it past the spotlight, Perry’s been flaming out. We’re gonna end up with Romney unless someone else enters - soon.


15 posted on 09/28/2011 9:35:20 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jack Black

Palin. But you’re right. Anyone but her would be beholden to the norm, imho. It’s going to be fun watching Palin wreak havoc on the norm.


16 posted on 09/28/2011 9:35:20 PM PDT by TwoSwords (Has anyone seen my suspension of disbelief pills?)
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To: matthew fuller
They should- Perry is a fiscal Conservative and a social liberal. Pro amnesty. Pro illegal alien.

False. One of the most persistent lies on FR these days. The ignorance here is embarrassing to me as a FReeper.

http://www.zimbio.com/Governor+J.+Richard+Perry/articles/9/Texas+Governor+Rick+Perry+says+Obama+plan

Texas Governor Rick Perry says Obama's plan to grant Amnesty to 13 million Illegal Aliens who jumped the line is "Assinine" Report By ericdondero on Nov-16-08 5:16am

17 posted on 09/28/2011 9:36:19 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Bean Counter

I’ve been to St. Paul- didn’t see anything that looked liked that. Most of the females looked like lumberjacks.


18 posted on 09/28/2011 9:37:24 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: matthew fuller
Perry is a fiscal Conservative and a social liberal

In what way is Perry a social liberal?

19 posted on 09/28/2011 9:37:56 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Sun

I’ve posted this a number of times and do so again inasmuch as THIS is a constantly recurring problem and some may not grasp how widespread it us.

Over the years – when, to steal a line from Billy Joel, I wore a younger man’s clothes – I was involved with several pretty solid conservative candidates for Congress. One was a Democrat (Lawrence Patton McDonald) – because that was the only way he could win in that district. Those old-timers who know Larry’s record will tell you that he was a solid an anti-communist America Firster and more Republican than the Pubbies in nearby districts at the time. (His mother’s cousin was General George Patton from whom he got the middle name – and his incredible resolve and love of this country.)

Those other candidates ran as Republicans. Because I was a rabid Bircher back then (still am philosophically!), those candidates had to pass my rigid litmus test or I went looking for someone who did. For that reason, I hooked up with what the TRADITIONAL country club Pubbie establishment types believed were too radical for their refined tastes.

As those campaigns began to unfold and it became clear to the country clubbers that these guys 1) had a shot and 2) were pretty independent thinkers who would be hard to keep on the reservation once they got sworn in, the local Pubbies communicated that information to the Republican National HQ types who rather quickly sent in campaign “professionals” ostensibly to lock up the impending victory.

Instead, in nearly every case to which I was privy, these “professionals” proceeded to TORPEDO our guy’s campaign in subtle but effective ways.

From that experience I can tell you that the Pubbies at the HQ in D.C. would rather have a Democrat win a given district than have a pubbie up there who would embarrass them by refusing to follow the party line.

If YOU become involved in campaigns for solidly conservative, America and Constitution loving, hard-nosed, independent thinking candidates in 2012 and beyond – and I pray many of you do — please DO NOT trust any of those folks from GOP HQ in Washington. If they want to send you no-strings cash for your campaign, take it. If, however, they “suggest” sending in one of their “professionals,” tell them to fuggetaboutit.

They ARE WHO GOT US INTO THIS MESS AND THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!

“The common and continual mischief of the spirit of Party is
sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to
discourage and restrain it.” G. Washington


20 posted on 09/28/2011 9:38:15 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: tsowellfan

Considering that the GOP are run by a bunch of right-wing Leftists, yes, they do not want a Conservative at all being nominated or elected.

A Leftist by another name (Dem, Socialist, Commie, etc.) is still a Leftist.


21 posted on 09/28/2011 9:38:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: tsowellfan

Hey Rush.......D U H ?


22 posted on 09/28/2011 9:39:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: tsowellfan

The Republican Establishment would vote for Obama over a Bachman or Palin. They all but gave the election to Obama by pushing that uber-Liberal Dem POS McCain on us.

RNC=DNC=RNC=DNC they are the same. They are all friends and all working together. And what they want is status quo at all costs. Even if it means re electing Obama. They are not with us, they are against us.

The RNC is the enemy of the Tea Party and Conservative America. They are Liberals.

FTRNC!


23 posted on 09/28/2011 9:39:22 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Jack Black

A boogeyman needed to rile up voters?


24 posted on 09/28/2011 9:43:09 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: tsowellfan

All I care about with any of the candidates is whether or not they are going to help to take down every single piece of crap Obama put into law.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 9:43:25 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: unkus; ken21; Carling; Clintonfatigued

I wish Perry had been this good in the Debate:

Please watch this video to the end:

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/RickPerry-immigration-heartless-education/2011/09/28/id/412594?s=al&promo_code=D257-1


26 posted on 09/28/2011 9:44:05 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (OMG means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: 240B

Well said.


27 posted on 09/28/2011 9:47:36 PM PDT by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The GOP aren’t leftists, they are merely “ bought and paid for whores “ by the Lobby Establishment.


28 posted on 09/28/2011 9:47:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Jack Black

“So who exactly are these establishment Republicans? Michael Steele? George W. Bush?”
__________________________________________________________________________________________

They are country club Republicans with a “profit interest” in cheap labor illegal aliens and a continual free flow of them into this country.

They know that securing the border... and I mean REALLY
securing the border would prevent the usual employers like,
restaurant chains, hotel chains, construction, and big agriculture from having free access to the illegals that
they love to hire.


29 posted on 09/28/2011 9:48:22 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: JulieRNR21

I watch the whole thing.

This is very much the Perry I am use to seeing.


30 posted on 09/28/2011 9:48:22 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: tsowellfan

Barbara Bush once said that she hoped Sarah Palin would “stay in Alaska.” Now it’s been reported Babs called Chris Christie and urged him to run. Of course, Mrs. Bush is not a major player in the Republican party by any stretch of the imagination, but this is the attitude shared by the inside the Beltway RINO establishment.....”conservatives need not apply.”

If the GOP establishment screws us again in 2012, then it’s time for the TEA Party to become a full-blown political party after the presidential election. Enough is enough.


31 posted on 09/28/2011 9:49:17 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama inherited a mild recession from George W. Bush and turned it into a major depression.)
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To: Carling

For Perry to discriminate against out-of-state American citizen college students by granting illegals discounted in-state tuition rates is abominable and despicable, AND heartless treatment of his fellow Americans. Would he be better than Obama or Hillary- of course, but many of the announced Rep. candidates would be better. Perry’s stance on illegals is a deal-breaker to the vast majority of Conservatives, and Freepers...


32 posted on 09/28/2011 9:50:02 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: Carling

In State tuition for illegal aliens, his stance of benign neglect about border security.


33 posted on 09/28/2011 9:52:52 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: matthew fuller
In State tuition for illegal aliens, his stance of benign neglect about border security

You lost me here->>his stance of benign neglect about border security

Border security is a federal issue and not the responsibility of the states.

Furthermore, it's very well known that Gov. Perry has requested time and time again that Washington DC send 1000 troops and air support to the border of Texas and Mexico.

34 posted on 09/28/2011 9:56:23 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Perry/Cain haters may not be RINOs but I cant think of anything a RINO would have done differently)
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To: TexMom7

This is very much the Perry I am use to seeing.


Is that good or bad? I can’t watch the whole 15 minutes tonight. Thanks.


35 posted on 09/28/2011 9:57:36 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: matthew fuller

The way most of us feel about Romney, I’ve always felt about Perry. I’m not ‘tearing him down’ because I’m falling prey to some media machinations. I’ve been out-spoken against him for a long time.

Until Cain caught fire, I was torn between him and Bachmann. Now, the more I know about Cain, the better I like him.

I’ll write him in if he’s not our nominee.

I won’t vote for Romney or Perry.

If that means that the nation gets another 4 year of pain - good.

In that event, it’ll be obvious that America hasn’t had her butt spanked hard enough to learn. And I’ll take that hurt just like everyone else.


36 posted on 09/28/2011 9:58:29 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: KingKongCobra

Kristol boosted Palin and then dropped her after she told him to get lost. He’s always looking for some way to worm his way close to the throne. What a snake—Garden of Eden style.


37 posted on 09/28/2011 9:58:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: tsowellfan

Its shaping up to be another “Douche” vs “Turd” election.


38 posted on 09/28/2011 10:00:20 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: tsowellfan

They want Romney for some reason. Idiots.


39 posted on 09/28/2011 10:01:16 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: Jack Black

Who’s the conservative establishment exactly?

- - - -
The country club republicans.


40 posted on 09/28/2011 10:02:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: tsowellfan
I remember Rush when he lost his memory, before he lost his hearing.

Nearly a decade went by when he seldom recalled we were being invaded by millions, our sovereignty and borders totally threatened, with epic violence, not to mention causing a destabilization of the U.S.

41 posted on 09/28/2011 10:02:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tsowellfan; matthew fuller

Plus, Perry’s Texas has spent $400 million of state dollars on securing the border. Money that the federal government should be spending, not Texas.

I think it’s funny that these non-border candidates have no solutions of their own, but they can criticize Perry. Herb Cain’s solution is apparently to make it a state issue, which is ridiculous if you consider the amount of money a border state would have to spend to protect a federal border.


42 posted on 09/28/2011 10:02:56 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Marie

If that means that the nation gets another 4 year of pain - good.


This nation doesn’t have four more years of pain left in it.

Or six, by you sitting it out.

*Unbelievable


43 posted on 09/28/2011 10:09:44 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: Marie

I like your thinking, Marie. I’m with you.


44 posted on 09/28/2011 10:10:59 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 240B
You are so very right, my friend.

Here in KS, we have dealt with our share of RINOs (from Eisenhower forward to Nancy Landon Kassebaum) and they'd rather vote for Satan himself before they'd elect a pro-life conservative.

I say "pro-life" simply because that is the ONE huge dividing line between us, though they aren't keen on guns, hate school choice, loathe the Defense of Marriage Act.

KS RINOs claim to be "fiscal conservatives" (yet they also cling to the liberal versions of the above items) but Kassebaum voted like Teddy Kennedy when she served in the Senate from KS! So much for the "fiscal conservative" drivel.

The end result for people desiring to run for office in KS in the GOP, the real killer to the nomination is, "are you pro-life?" If you answer yes to that one, you might as well realize that those RINOs will run some RINO/mod against you in a Primary election and pour millions into the race for the RINO. Should you be fortunate enough to win against their heavily funded RINO, they will vote for the dimocRAT!

Case in point, KS 3rd District ran Kris Kobach, the Constitutional Law professor that files lawsuits on behalf of those fighting tuition for illegals, no photo IDs for voting, etc., he ran in the 3rd District to beat a worthless dim only to have the RINOs run one of their own, who lost to Kris, then they go out and support the dim anyway - anything but a "creepy pro-lifer."

It has been this way for decades - probably since Reagan, if not at least Eisenhower!

45 posted on 09/28/2011 10:11:32 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: unkus
Rush is right except Perry. I think they’d accept Perry.

So far, he seems like the one they're most eager to crush.
46 posted on 09/28/2011 10:12:28 PM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: tsowellfan
"Border security is a federal issue and not the responsibility of the states."

That's what the Federales claim, but they refuse to do the job, and have actually sued Arizona to prevent their attempt to protect their border- Perry said that the Arizona law was "not appropriate" for TX, altho he recently is claiming that he is standing with them in their lawsuit. Perry has the TX National Guard, TX DPS, Texas Rangers, AND the responsibility to protect TX if invaded. He has NOT protected the border.

47 posted on 09/28/2011 10:13:57 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: Dick Bachert

“They ARE WHO GOT US INTO THIS MESS AND THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!”

Which is why I only contribute (the little I donate) to CONSERVATIVE candidates, and not the party.

And thanks for your interesting post.


48 posted on 09/28/2011 10:17:23 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Carling; matthew fuller
matthew fuller -- don't let the pro-amnesty Perry supporters lie to you.

=========================================================================

But just to be clear: if border security is accomplished, you can envision some sort of path to citizenship for people who are here illegally.

Rick Perry: Sure.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/12/rick-perry-newsweek-interview-transcript.html

49 posted on 09/28/2011 10:24:35 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: D-fendr

“We’re gonna end up with Romney unless someone else enters - soon.”

Only if you base your belief on TODAY’S polls.

Four years ago, Hillary was ahead of Obama, 2-1.

It’s still EARLY, FRiend.


50 posted on 09/28/2011 10:26:03 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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