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Obama: Deportation numbers are a "little deceptive"
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-blames-republicans-failure-immigration-reform-says-increase ^ | Sept. 28, 2011 | Rachel Rose Hartman

Posted on 09/29/2011 1:17:02 AM PDT by jdirt

President Obama on Wednesday urged frustrated Americans to stop blaming him for the standstill on federal immigration reform and to direct their displeasure instead at Republicans in Congress. "The notion that I can somehow just change the laws unilaterally is just not true," Obama told moderators Wednesday during a Hispanic online roundtable-- "Open for Questions"-- hosted by Yahoo!, MSN Latino, AOL Latino and HuffPost LatinoVoices. "The fact of the matter is there are laws on the books I have to enforce. And there is a great disservice done to the cause of getting the Dream Act passed and comprehensive immigration reform passed by perpetuating the notion that somehow by myself I can just go and do these things," Obama said, referring to proposed legislation to provide a path to citizenship for some children of illegal immigrants. The president praised past Republican presidents George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, whom Obama said understood the importance of comprehensive immigration reform. "Right now, you do not have that kind of leadership coming from the Republican party," Obama claimed. Immigration reform is one of the many issues the president will be forced to address as he courts Hispanic voters during his 2012 re-election campaign. The president finds himself in a middle ground, both advocating a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and acting as the enforcer of current immigration laws. Obama was asked to address an increase in deportations that has occurred during his tenure. He said the numbers are "a little deceptive." Apprehensions at the border are counted as deportations in the reported statistics, Obama said, so the uptick in deportations is caused by "more effective" border control, not by deportations of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants. "

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; obama; statistics

1 posted on 09/29/2011 1:17:05 AM PDT by jdirt
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To: narses; neverdem; SmithL; Nachum; jdirt
Apprehensions at the border are counted as deportations in the reported statistics, Obama said, so the uptick in deportations is caused by “more effective” border control, not by deportations of otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants. “

Lest any of his Hispanic slaves (er, voters) think Obama is actually trying to enforce the laws.

2 posted on 09/29/2011 1:21:36 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: jdirt

Screw him. Reform. And then in 10 years again. Then again after that until we’re nothing more than north mexico. Screw that as well.


3 posted on 09/29/2011 1:34:01 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Apprehensions at the border are counted as deportations in the reported statistics, Obama said

I post this all the time. The big deportation numbers of 400,000 a year or so. 97% of that number is simply Mexicans caught at the border and sent back (by bus) to Mexico. It is not Jose the habitual drunk driver in Minneapolis being deported back to Mexico. Or a Chinese cook found selling cocaine being deported back to China. Real deportations via airplane are expensive and too much of a hassle for the Federales to arrange. They do happen but rarely.

4 posted on 09/29/2011 1:38:26 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: dennisw

Too expensive? The Air Force & Navy visit foreign countries all the time. Load the illegals onto the first flight/cruise outta here & drop them off wherever.


5 posted on 09/29/2011 1:53:07 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (If you want money for minds that hate; all I can tell you is Brother, you'll have to wait.)
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To: jdirt

It is truly astonishing how small and childish Obama is sounding. He is taking responsibility for nothing. He is a little man, unfit for a big job.


6 posted on 09/29/2011 2:14:09 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: jdirt

will have to face in 2012 campaign???

.. he has been campaigning since 2004’


7 posted on 09/29/2011 2:14:23 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: norwaypinesavage

> He is a little man, unfit for a big job.

he is an ILLEGAL MAN FOR THE JOB OF POTUS


8 posted on 09/29/2011 2:16:27 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: jdirt

The race, ethnicity, religion, gender and sexuality of legal immigrants? Who gives a crap?

Illegal immigrants? Prosecute employers who knowingly hire them (drags down wages) and deport the illegal.

Additionally, introduce legislation that makes anybody who entered the country illegally for work have no chance at applying for citizenship,


9 posted on 09/29/2011 2:17:36 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: jdirt; Liz; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Condor51; stephenjohnbanker; South40; cripplecreek
The president praised past Republican presidents George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, whom Obama said understood the importance of comprehensive immigration reform. "Right now, you do not have that kind of leadership coming from the Republican party,"

I hope "that kind of leadership" is gone for good. I will give Reagan a break because he was swindled, but GWB should have known better.

10 posted on 09/29/2011 2:17:58 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: jdirt

Also, this line:

“The fact of the matter is there are laws on the books I have to enforce. And there is a great disservice done to the cause of getting the Dream Act passed and comprehensive immigration reform passed by perpetuating the notion that somehow by myself I can just go and do these things,”

Just makes me wretch. Obama is the president of the US and yet he sounds like he can just barely accept the fact that borders need to be protected.


11 posted on 09/29/2011 2:19:34 AM PDT by Byzantine Basileus
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To: jdirt

I think the majority of the GOP would love to push through amnesty and then go on a hispandering binge, but it’s the people who vote for the GOP who won’t allow it.


12 posted on 09/29/2011 2:31:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Oh, they’re probably just attending their children’s college education in Texas.

Cindie


13 posted on 09/29/2011 2:32:41 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Yes, the number should have a minus sign in front of it. Thanks jdirt.


14 posted on 09/29/2011 2:49:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana
Did Rick Perry endorse Cong Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill)'s Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act?

BREAKDOWN Over and above the millions who violate our borders, 1.5 million legal foreign workers come to the US each year, as a matter of course.

But this number isn’t high enough for Dem Cong Gutierrez and his 92 co-sponsors. The "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill includes a provision called “recapture” that will add up all the supposedly “unused” work visas since 1992 and issue them immediately.

This is a complete fraud, as all unused work visas are rolled over to the family reunification category the next year as it is.

Gutierrez' Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill will create 100,000 visas from countries that send the most illegal immigrants every year. According to the State Department, this will mean 550,000 new foreign workers.

Gutierrez' bill will make it much easier for more illegal aliens to break in. Under the Bill, to prove they have jobs and were in the country BEFORE Congress passed amnesty, illegals are allowed to use stolen ID's, fake green cards, and fraudulent SS numbers....... without fear of prosecution.

==========================================

Mexico facilitates the profitable staging area for Third World and other illegals preparing to violate our borders. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill rewards Mexico b/c they calculatedly promote illegal immigration. Contrary to Obama’s claim that CIR bill will increase border security, it does just the opposite.........

<> it guts successful enforcement measures,

<> limits raids on illegal immigrants,

<> prohibits use of troops on the border,

<> replaces E-Verify used to ensure employers hire legal American workers,

<> overturns all state and local US laws that crackdown on illegal immigration,

<> abolishes 287(g) that allows local L/E and federal authorities to apprehend criminal illegals.

Gutierrez and Rick Perry---perfect together.

15 posted on 09/29/2011 2:53:21 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: jdirt
...otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants.

Let's go with that thought. Who gets a freebie? Rezwan Ferdaus was "otherwise law-abiding," right?

16 posted on 09/29/2011 3:34:11 AM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: jdirt

Thank you for this post, had a liberal other week use the “more deportations” argument against me, when I tried to explain this wasn’t true, he wouldn’t listen. Now his god Obama has just confirmed my point. Bookmarked.


17 posted on 09/29/2011 3:34:54 AM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: jdirt; LowOiL
Not only is there "deception" in the deportation numbers including border apprehensions, there is even more "deception" in the border apprehension numbers.

Almost all of the border apprehension are merely bused to the very border they already illegally crossed - to walk across to the other side. The vast majority of these "deportations" only cross again illegally within a day or two. Like a revolving door, they will do this again and again until they make it undetected.

Every time the same person is caught and walked back counts as another deportation - and the federal government gets to pad the "deportation" numbers it feeds to a misled public.

18 posted on 09/29/2011 4:17:39 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Moonman62

“hispandering binge”

I like that a lot, and will endeavor to use it in the future.


19 posted on 09/29/2011 4:28:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jdirt
... otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants.

In the QPRM, they're fully law-abiding. AG Martha Coakley: "Technically it's not illegal to be illegal in Massachusetts." Case in point: Auntie EBT, Zero's Aunt Zeituni lives on the dole in the GLBTQ People's Republik of Mass.

20 posted on 09/29/2011 4:33:17 AM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: jdirt
This is utter BS. Reform? More like reform and ignore, reform and ignore. Drunk illegals have to run Americans over in order to get deported and even then, nobody actually enforces the deportation order. As for ‘latino groups’ again; BS. MEXICANS.
21 posted on 09/29/2011 4:40:06 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: jdirt
President Obama on Wednesday urged frustrated Americans to stop blaming him for...

I'd suggest Mr. Obama shut up, stop complaining and start marching.

Out the door, preferably.

22 posted on 09/29/2011 4:41:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
I'd suggest Mr. Obama shut up, stop complaining and start marching.

What?! And have to take off his bedroom slippers?!

23 posted on 09/29/2011 5:13:04 AM PDT by mellow velo
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To: jdirt
“The fact of the matter is there are laws on the books I have to enforce”

Really? I thought you were evading all those laws with which you don't agree by using your Executive Orders. All Obama Executive Orders must be rescinded as soon as he is gone.

24 posted on 09/29/2011 5:20:50 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: jdirt
"a little deceptive."

..as opposed to his life,which is such a load of bulls***it couldn't pass load requirements on most bridges

25 posted on 09/29/2011 5:28:46 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: jdirt

We need to use the anti-racketeering RICO laws to prosecute the big institutional offenders like restaurant chains and
hotel chains. These laws have penalties that can include seizure of assets, like personal property. These laws have
been routinely used against drug syndicates.

If some CEO’s think they might lose the lake house, they will get rid of jose in a hurry.

Profiting from the use of illegal alien labor is, IMHO, a type of organized crime.

We need to get a champion of this in Congress like Ted Poe or Michael McCaul.


26 posted on 09/29/2011 5:50:16 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: jdirt
President Obama on Wednesday urged frustrated Americans to stop blaming him...

How far we've fallen...


27 posted on 09/29/2011 6:00:48 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: jdirt

Translation: Those numbers are just to fool the gringos.


28 posted on 09/29/2011 6:35:08 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: jdirt
"The notion that I can somehow just change the laws unilaterally is just not true," Obama told moderators...

I wonder when he learned this.

He apparently did not know it a month ago when he directed gun dealers in border states to begin reporting all multiple long gun sales to the BATFE (in violation of federal fireamrs laws and the 14th Amendment).

29 posted on 09/29/2011 6:46:43 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for NO additional charge!)
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To: jdirt

“...law-abiding illegal immigrants.” ???


30 posted on 09/29/2011 7:35:43 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: jdirt



It is too late to save this nation. We will elect another RINO in 2012 and will continue down the path to One World Government and it amazes me that we have so much buy-in on that heading even on this site, with support for RINOs Romney and Perry and Gingrich.


The illegals are far too ingrained into our government and citizenship (via fraud perpetrated by government officials). We are only biding our time, because people are too short-sighted to see that unless we REVERSE direction we will still get there...to the One World Government. Anyone, who is over 30 years old and has the slightest real attention span, knows the GOPs top contenders are the One World Government politicians. Far too many public-schooled Republicans in the U.S...that's certainly true.



31 posted on 09/29/2011 8:04:11 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I thought just last week he made some comment about having to take action since congress was unable to do so, regarding no child left behind.
And he directed non-enforcement of immigration issues, and lets not talk about gun-runner, or Defense of Marriage Act, or his uncle, or...

The chief reason I did not seek out certain law enforcement fields was the notion that selective enforcement of laws with which I agreed was not a real option.

The executive does not serve as a check on the legislative branch by non-enforcement, but by veto. (IMHO - there are legitimate times he can serve as one on the court that way... but some might find this to be incongruous).


32 posted on 09/29/2011 8:19:26 AM PDT by Apogee
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To: Caipirabob
President Obama on Wednesday urged frustrated Americans to stop blaming him for...

Uh, excuse me but didn't the RATS take over Congress on Jan 2. 2007 (when Bush - the pro-open border GOP President - was still in office), and the boy king took over on Jan 20, 2009????
Hasn't his RAT party had FOUR years to pass COMPREHENSIVE AMNESTY for all those UNDOCUMENTED DEMONRATS?
33 posted on 09/29/2011 8:55:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Amen to that.

Besides being involved in the treasonist acts of some in the DOJ and BATF. Frankly he can JSTFU as far as I’m concerned. It looks like it’s going to be the Voters that have the Cajones to kick his Ass out of the WH.


34 posted on 09/29/2011 11:10:36 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


35 posted on 09/29/2011 2:18:14 PM PDT by HiJinx ("Good government is the concern of all men." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: dennisw

Here in NJ there is no decline in the number of illegal aliens; the basic premise (that deportations had increased) was a hoax to convince working whites that they should vote for Obama (again).


36 posted on 09/29/2011 3:09:30 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: jdirt

“The notion that I can somehow just change the laws unilaterally is just not true,”

Executive Order? What’s that?


37 posted on 09/29/2011 4:20:06 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: kearnyirish2
Here in NJ there is no decline in the number of illegal aliens; the basic premise (that deportations had increased) was a hoax to convince working whites that they should vote for Obama (again).

All a lie because the cruel truth on the deportations number (roughly 300,000-400,000 per year and cited by Nappy Napolitano) is that just about all these "deportations" are Mexicans arrested at the border and sent back to Mexico. Jose from Honduras who is arrested for selling crack in Jersey City? Even after time in prison will he be deported when we have scum like Obama as president? Very dubious because this involves putting him on an airplane which presents logistical problems such as do you put an armed guard on the flight? Do you send him back on a Con Air kind of flight where he is shackled?

38 posted on 09/29/2011 4:56:29 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: dennisw

The logistics are simply an excuse for the inaction of the government (after the initial lie is exposed); they want them here as cheap labor and consumers. While they fill Wal-Marts, they are also here to buy homes and autos that are beyond the reach of tax-saddled (or unemployed) Americans.


39 posted on 09/29/2011 7:13:55 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: jdirt

“Deceptive” is an interesting word for him to use.


40 posted on 09/29/2011 9:05:26 PM PDT by Renata Maree
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To: jdirt
The numbers are deceptive? How about those, manipulating them?

(Read yesterday; that a woman was found dead, beside an SUV. ..a 'strange' one apparently. Made it sound suspect, to say the least.) Meantime; watch those numbers. . .they cannot be trusted.

41 posted on 10/04/2011 2:12:47 AM PDT by cricket
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To: norwaypinesavage
He is a little man, unfit for a big job

A Christie intro, works here/lol. . .That said; Obama is so much more! He is an evil, arrogant; pathologically narcissitic, Marxist-Alyskyite et al totalitarian-minded, evil trickster of the worst - and most dangerous - kind.

And because of his 'success'; we are in the deepest of pathological 'doo' in America.

42 posted on 10/04/2011 2:19:34 AM PDT by cricket (Let Freedom Ring. . .)
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