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Obama Blames US Guns For Mexican Violence, Then Starts Running Guns to Mexico 5 Months Later
thegatewaypundit.com ^ | 9/29/11 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 09/29/2011 11:23:24 AM PDT by SanFranDan

FULL TITLE: Flashback: Obama Blames US Guns For Mexican Violence, Then Starts Running Guns to Mexico 5 Months Later

In April 2009 Barack Obama traveled to Mexico and blamed US gun sellers for “This war is being waged with guns purchased not here but in the United States...more than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that lay in our shared border. So we have responsibilities as well.”

Just to be sure, a few months later the Obama Administration started running their own guns to Mexico.

Also today..Mexican Attorney General told reporters that Obama is more involved with Operation Fast and Furious than he is admitting. The Cypress Times reported:

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1 posted on 09/29/2011 11:23:25 AM PDT by SanFranDan
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To: SanFranDan
He found out that his statements could be proven to be wrong, so he set about to change reality so that he would be right.
2 posted on 09/29/2011 11:25:35 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for NO additional charge!)
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To: SanFranDan
The Impostor Obama pushed not JUST guns
but also grenades.


Was the provenance of THIS one of AG Holder's DOJ/DNC/Obama-supplied grenades?

"Report: Woman survives live grenade in face"

3 posted on 09/29/2011 11:27:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SanFranDan

Besides being a criminal operation that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Mexican and American citizens, Fast and Furious was a political crime far, far exceeding Watergate.

Watergate simply tried to eavesdrop on political opponents.
Fast & Furious tried to stage crimes to advance political agendas.


4 posted on 09/29/2011 11:29:18 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I Like The Content of His Character!)
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To: SanFranDan

He knows all about Fast and Furious. I am not so sure he didn’t discuss this with the pres of Mexico with his blessings.


5 posted on 09/29/2011 11:30:46 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

6 posted on 09/29/2011 11:31:40 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: SanFranDan

TREASON


7 posted on 09/29/2011 11:31:48 AM PDT by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Impeach


8 posted on 09/29/2011 11:32:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Diogenesis

Glad you posted this. I was wondering the same thing. One of Fast and Furious grenades?


9 posted on 09/29/2011 11:33:06 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Someone needs to put a youtube ad together with 0bama stating these things, stating “we’re working on gun control under the radar” to Sarah Brady, then detailing “fast and furious”.


10 posted on 09/29/2011 11:39:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Diogenesis

Seems to me if this grenade came from F&F that this woman would have one hell of a lawsuit against the USA. Well, so would a lot of other Mexicans affected by this.


11 posted on 09/29/2011 11:43:17 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: SanFranDan
Barry invents a problem and then insures it continues. W.C. Fields used a similar tack:

"I always keep a supply of stimulants handy in case I see a snake...which I also keep handy."

12 posted on 09/29/2011 11:44:24 AM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: SanFranDan
Don't forget his statement to his commie buddies about working on gun control “behind the scenes”.....talk about a damning statement if there ever was.
13 posted on 09/29/2011 11:45:13 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: ColdOne; Diogenesis

[Mexico:]Grenade attacks throughout Tamaulipas; shootouts reported
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2784853/posts

Fast & Furious: Congress expanding probe to include grenades http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2784645/posts

[Mexico:]Four reported wounded in Reynosa grenade attack
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/grenades/index?tab=articles

[South Texas]Border Patrol finds rocket launcher, grenade launcher, explosives near Rio Grande
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2778486/posts


14 posted on 09/29/2011 11:46:08 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SanFranDan

soetoro said he was, ¨working under the radar¨ for greater gun control. Now we know what he meant.


15 posted on 09/29/2011 11:48:11 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: SanFranDan

What are the chances this does not go all the way up to the Oval Office? I think this just may be the ticket for Holder and Barry to go straight to Leavenworth prison where they both belong.


16 posted on 09/29/2011 11:59:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ColdOne; Diogenesis

Sources: Five grenades thrown in Rio Bravo[Mexico]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2777229/posts

AND THE SCARIEST:
California Iraqi-Mexican crime ring busted, police say
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2765862/posts

“Police in southern California have arrested 60 people and broken up an Iraqi criminal ring accused of selling drugs, machine guns and improvised bombs out of an immigrant social club, authorities said on Thursday.

The swoop by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and local police targeted a network operating out of El Cajon, which is near San Diego and close to the border with Mexico.”

Child Finds (Live) Grenade Near Local Creek]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2746658/posts

News Troops kill 3 gunmen in northern Mexico, seize weapons, vehicles
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2722755/posts
“Three suspected organized crime gummen were killed and another three were wounded in a clash near the northeastern Mexican city of Matamoros with army troops, who seized more than 100 weapons and nearly a score of vehicles after the gun battle, military sources said.

The Defense Secretariat’s 4th Military Region said in a statement that 83 automatic rifles, 18 handguns, five grenade launchers, a rocket launcher, 11 fragmentation grenades, 28 40 mm grenades, 315 ammunition clips, more than 18,000 rounds of ammunition, 17 vehicles and eight kilos of marijuana were confiscated in Wednesday’s operation. “

Mexican federal police discover arsenal of heavy weapons in Ciudad Juarez home
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712974/posts
“Mexican federal police said Saturday they discovered a basement arsenal hidden behind the mirrors of a home gym that included three anti-aircraft guns, dozens of grenades, a grenade launcher, AK-47s and other high-powered weapons. “


17 posted on 09/29/2011 12:01:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: ColdOne

No.

F&F was predicated on standard straw purchase from legal civilian dealers. Grenades would be nigh unto impossible with lots of very deliberate & unusual paperwork, adding $200 to the cost of each one sold.

Yes it is technically/legally/logistically possible to make that scenario happen, but falls into the “ain’t happenin’” category. Would take a special level of genius sociopath to take F&F there.


18 posted on 09/29/2011 12:12:09 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2
The grenades sent to Mexico were inert grenade hulls, which are fairly readily obtainable as "souvenirs" or "paperweights." However, they can be filled with explosives, although the arming mechanisms are not that readily available. In any case, exporting even the inert hulls is illegal.
19 posted on 09/29/2011 12:20:44 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Hurm.
Demented, but plausible.


20 posted on 09/29/2011 12:27:42 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: UCANSEE2

Good links. Thank you.


21 posted on 09/29/2011 12:28:33 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ctdonath2

full auto stuff would also be subject to ‘unusual paperwork’.

Mexico needs to look to its own military and those of its neighbors as a source for these munitions and weapons.


22 posted on 09/29/2011 12:29:21 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: UCANSEE2

AND THE SCARIEST:
California Iraqi-Mexican crime ring busted, police say
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2765862/posts

I used to live in this town El Cajon.


23 posted on 09/29/2011 12:33:54 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SanFranDan

Wow, its almost like he knows what’s going to happen in the Future! He’s SO Clairvoyant!!


24 posted on 09/29/2011 12:44:54 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Holder and Obama should be extradited to Mexico to face charges there.
25 posted on 09/29/2011 1:26:15 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Can’t argue with that.


26 posted on 09/29/2011 2:06:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Early on when the “guns going south and it’s dealers’ fault” accusation started, I opined that the ATF knew and had signed off for all the proper paperwork required, bulk shipments crossed the border, then...disappeared as intended.

So far everything we know of has been semi-auto or less. If anything is “class III” (grenades included) then Mexico would have to check its side of the paperwork trail.

I’m not thinking that’s it, however, because those who would have signed off on this side would be making a very loud noise about it to protect their necks.


27 posted on 09/29/2011 2:44:57 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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