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RUSH: Why Aren't They Begging Rubio?
www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | September 29, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 09/30/2011 12:35:26 AM PDT by Yosemitest



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Rush, You're great, and I have enormous respect and admiration for you.
BUT ... you said:

Rush ... I'm one of those people. There's no way in hell I can compromise my values.
Rush, I can't support Romney, Perry, Ron Paul, or Jon Huntsman. They're just too liberal or "Establishment Republican" types for me to support.
As long as the "Establishment Republicans" keep telling us to vote for the lesser of two evils and vote RINO, they'll lose, because the base won't buy that crap amy more.
The "Establishment Republicans" taught us well ... that


Rush, you said:

You said in an earlier article titled On Texas and Presidential Politics about "illegal immigration" and "Perry's in-state tuition business" :


Well ... that's me. There's no way in hell that I can support that Anti-American crap.
I just can't, and I won't!
I won't even think about it.

Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.


Well Rush, in closing, I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!
1 posted on 09/30/2011 12:35:35 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

I know that the establishment doesn’t care for the constitution one twit, but I thought Rubio wasn’t eligible in terms of having both parents being Americans at the time he was born?


2 posted on 09/30/2011 12:43:18 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Yosemitest
Rush also said that he understands why Christie doesn't want to run and that the anal exam that any R will get is only worth it if the person is completely committed to the job.

If Rubio says he's not ready then by Rush's own statements and logic he should wait 'till he is. I think Rubio is a smart cookie and knows that he could win this so why not get in? It's not because he doesn't think he can win.

3 posted on 09/30/2011 12:44:02 AM PDT by byteback
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To: Jonty30
I know.
The Democrats think you must be born in the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, to be a Natural Born Citizen.
4 posted on 09/30/2011 12:48:38 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: byteback
This isn't about Rubio running,
but it clearly shows why we MUST flush out the "Establishment Republicans" (read RINOs) into the open and defeat them.
5 posted on 09/30/2011 12:53:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Jonty30
Reference Rubio's eligibility, read The Good News: Rubio's Eligible By Chet Arthur July 9, 2011
6 posted on 09/30/2011 1:00:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

The Democrats have a better sense of geography than most Americans.

The Mombasa General Hospital is in a suburb of Connecticut.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 1:06:01 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: byteback

Rush is right about the Establishment. It didn’t disappear in 1964. It had to remain back stage while Nixon was in office, but then when he
appointed Jerry Ford and the Ford appointed Rockefeller. It was right there again. Reagan then won despite them.although he had to take George H.W. Bush as a kind of Jerry Ford substitute. Good ole JERRY never forgave Reagan for displacing him, although we didn’t know that until Ford died that he was so bitter. Reagan of course drove Carter insane. But the surest sign of the continuing power of the Establishment is that Kissinger is still taken seriously. Which is why George Bush’s foreign policy was so odd. The mess ins Iraq put the “Realists” back in charge, so that when he said things such as “Islamic Fascism, he was forced to get back in line. Apart from his occasional rebellion, Bush was an Establishmentarian, with his domestic policies.


8 posted on 09/30/2011 1:10:18 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Jonty30
That's in the Fifty Seventh State?

9 posted on 09/30/2011 1:12:56 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

That definition of natural citizen seems to stretch the Founders’ intentions. Their intent was to minimize the ability to defeat the United States from the inside and considering kids who are the product of one parent being American or allowing them to be born outside the US seems to work against the intent.


10 posted on 09/30/2011 1:20:40 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
I've got over 26 years in the military.
That definition is accurate.
11 posted on 09/30/2011 1:27:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Jonty30

The Constitution. If you capitalize anything capitalize the Constitution. It’s the one the world copies and the one that will keep America free.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 1:28:38 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I will do that.


13 posted on 09/30/2011 1:30:45 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Yosemitest

If that’s how the Founders defined it, I respect it.

It’s just there are so many trying tear apart at the Constitution that you’re probably better off tightening the eligibility a bit.


14 posted on 09/30/2011 1:37:01 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
This is for you. Just click on "Find Out".

15 posted on 09/30/2011 1:44:02 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Jonty30

I disagree.
We can't do any better than following the Constitution.
16 posted on 09/30/2011 1:45:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

Rush: Why aren’t they begging Rubio?

Nextrush: When Sarah Palin enters the race and rises up in the polls they will be begging Rubio to get in to stop her....

My take is that Perry came in when Bachmann was rising and won the Ames, Iowa straw poll.

My take is that all the Chris Christie talk is designed to take attention off the rise of Herman Cain.

The establishment floats candidates to preempt the rise of conservative ones in the race.


17 posted on 09/30/2011 1:50:24 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Nextrush

I couldn’t agree with you, more.


18 posted on 09/30/2011 1:51:42 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

By some standards mentioned, if Rubio is ineliglble then so is JFK and MCCAIN.


19 posted on 09/30/2011 2:15:43 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida
To all those "Establishment Republicans" who would raise such a straw man, we're taking names and writing 'em down.
We WILL remember.
20 posted on 09/30/2011 2:24:22 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

I can definitely appreciate that position, for if you can change the constitution in any way whatsoever, you can also change it in all ways possible.


21 posted on 09/30/2011 2:26:48 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
The Constitution can be changed, through the Amendment process.
But ... it's vvvveeeerrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy difficult.
22 posted on 09/30/2011 2:33:20 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Jonty30
Also read Article V: Congress, Conventions, and Constitutional Amendments by Matthew Spalding, Ph.D. and Trent England, February 10, 2011, of thed Heritage Foundation.
23 posted on 09/30/2011 2:39:20 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Nextrush

“The establishment floats candidates to preempt the rise of conservative ones in the race.”

You know, you might have a point there. You have helped me reach a decision I wasn’t exactly sure I could reach. I am a Palin supporter 100% now.

The Republican Establishment does NOT want a true conservative candidate.


24 posted on 09/30/2011 2:59:08 AM PDT by depenzz (There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt. John Adam)
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To: Yosemitest

Good posting and an interesting read of the Rush talk.

Rubio, and Jindal, are both ineligble because their parents were not US citizens at the time of their births. ....I think both of the guys are very good for the Conservative portion of the GOP!

Just because Obama has gotten away with the scam on America does not mean it’s okay to ignore the Constitutional requirements relating to a President being a Natural Born Citizen; ie. born in the US or territories and having both parents of US citizenship.


25 posted on 09/30/2011 3:06:31 AM PDT by octex
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To: Nextrush

I think you win the prize for dumbest screen name in FR history...... How many stations are you on Limbaugh, Jr.?


26 posted on 09/30/2011 3:11:53 AM PDT by catfish1957 (A politican with a heart usually means they have one hand in our pocketbooks!!!)
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To: Yosemitest
Sorry, but the whole Rubio is eligible falls apart on this line-

His parents were resident aliens when he was born in 1971, seeking and soon to receive their status as naturalized U.S. citizens.

Like the parents of Wong Kim Ark, Rubio's parents were resident aliens at the time of his birth.

This would make Rubio a native born citizen, not a natural born one.

Had he been born after they were naturalized, it would be a different story.

27 posted on 09/30/2011 3:21:42 AM PDT by MamaTexan
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To: octex
Since your reply is to post @1, I assume you haven't read post #11.
I refer you to post #11 in response to your statement that Rubio's parents were not US Citizens at the time of their birth, and "is ineligible."
Please notice the part that says
Interesting, isn't it.
28 posted on 09/30/2011 3:32:20 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

This was in the St. Pete Times...concerning Rubio’s recent visit to Libya. Believe it or not, the Times, the liberal rag, brings up whether Rubio is a natural born citizen. They’ve never ever questioned Obama’s bc issues, or the fact that one of his parents weren’t citizens, but they bring up the talking point of Rubio’s citizen qualifications. It’d be funny, if it wasn’t so sad.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/marco-rubio-embraces-national-spotlight-he-draws-tougher-scrutiny


29 posted on 09/30/2011 3:51:25 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: MamaTexan
I refer you
Well, it's pretty plain that
30 posted on 09/30/2011 4:05:23 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: catfish1957

I have some media experience, I admire El Rushbo and heck I can win people over in my two workplaces.

I’m available for an audition anytime, too.


31 posted on 09/30/2011 4:06:26 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: octex

Yes .


32 posted on 09/30/2011 4:12:11 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: dawn53
You notice they DON'T say whether he is or is not a natural born citizen, but that
Funny, how they refuse to source the original law, that makes it clear that he is a natural born Citizen.
33 posted on 09/30/2011 4:14:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

Interesting link; thanks.


34 posted on 09/30/2011 4:19:08 AM PDT by Oceander (Not voting is tantamount to voting for Obama)
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To: Yosemitest

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/960104/posts


35 posted on 09/30/2011 4:21:26 AM PDT by Huck (Oy.)
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To: Yosemitest

Why not Rubio? Hmmm, a freshman senator with no executive experience who’s big positives are his public speaking and his ethnicity. What could possibly go wrong?


36 posted on 09/30/2011 4:23:14 AM PDT by Huck (Oy.)
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To: Yosemitest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4u62YwQ5cc


37 posted on 09/30/2011 4:25:21 AM PDT by Huck (Oy.)
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To: Huck
If you noticed the photo in the article of Ronald Reagan, it linked to an article you might like. Just click on it.
I've read it, but I still won't vote for a RINO.
Let the RINOs compromise toward the conservatives for a change, or else lose.
I don't vote for RINOs any more.
I refer you back to post #1.
38 posted on 09/30/2011 4:33:27 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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Gee Rush, maybe because Rubio isn't ELIGIBLE.

Neither of his parents were US Citizens when he was born. Which kinda goes against that Constitution thingy of ours.

And I don't give a rat's patoot about Obama scamming the system. We are NOT the RATS - period, end.

39 posted on 09/30/2011 4:37:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Yosemitest
That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years

Until they BECOME citizens, they are not 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States'.

It's why they're considered resident ALIENS...because they are 'alien' to US jurisdiction.

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"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."
Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866

U.S. v. Anthony 24 Fed. 829 (1873)
"The term resident and citizen of the United States is distinguished from a Citizen of one of the several states, in that the former is a special class of citizen created by Congress."

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A 'created' citizen, cannot, by it's inherent definition be a natural born one, because natural-borns are created by Nature, not by man.

40 posted on 09/30/2011 4:43:29 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Huck
That was 6 minutes and 49 seconds of my time well spent. Thank you.
But you might enjoy this with video.
Just click on it. It's called Rush Limbaugh - "Rollback Pelosi" 2/12/2010
41 posted on 09/30/2011 4:50:02 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: MamaTexan
WRONG.
As soon as they apply for Citizenship, they are 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States'.
42 posted on 09/30/2011 4:53:36 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

How do you get around the fact that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land that trumps all legislative acts? Therefore, Congress can not devine who is or is not a citizen if what they are are doing is unconstitutional? They do not have the authority to amend the Constitution. It would not be the first Congressional misadventure that is subsequently found to be unconstitutional.


43 posted on 09/30/2011 4:55:58 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Condor51
I refer you to post #11 and post #30.
Rubio IS ELIGIBLE!!!
44 posted on 09/30/2011 4:56:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Jonty30

Rubio is perfectly eligible, he’s a natural born citizen, and there has never ever been a case where someone was declared not a natural born US citizen on the basis of his parents’ citizenship. Place of birth is what does it; that’s why the Chinese can pay to come in and have babies here, who automatically are considered natural born US citzens, even though their parents live in China and take them back to China immediately and raise them there. Like it or not, the place is what matters.

In fact, if Rubio’s parents had been US citizens but if he himself had been born elsewhere, he would not be considered natural born. This was the whole argument over McCain, if you will recall, who was born to a military family in a hospital in Panama that was used by the military but was not actually on the base (not on US soil, in other words).

So Rubio is fully eligible. Whether he’d want to run, of course, is another matter, and I don’t think he would. He has a very nice young family to look after, and I think he’s happy with what he’s achieving in the Senate.


45 posted on 09/30/2011 4:58:43 AM PDT by livius
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What part of An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790) don't you understand?

It's their job. It established the RULE of Naturalization.
How dense can you get?!?!?!
46 posted on 09/30/2011 5:00:16 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest
I saw them - FAIL.

The author is a Rubiobot, I checked all his past articles.

47 posted on 09/30/2011 5:05:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Yosemitest

No, you fail to understand how the Supreme Court works. Just because Congress has the authority to make laws does not mean that all such laws are Constitutional. If the Act you refer to is challenged in the Supreme Court, the Court will judge the law against Article II. It may or may not pass the test.


48 posted on 09/30/2011 5:06:08 AM PDT by iontheball
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I thought Rubio wasn’t eligible in terms of having both parents being Americans at the time he was born?

Made-up birther nonsense.

Rubio is eligible.

49 posted on 09/30/2011 5:08:21 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: MamaTexan
This would make Rubio a native born citizen, not a natural born one.

That's a distinction that doesn't exist in the law. Whether it existed in the framer's minds, or in their intentions, or whether it ought to exist, etc., is fine to argue about, but Rubio's eligibility or lack thereof is determined by the law.

The law says that a person born in U.S. territory of parents who are not "under foreign jurisdiction" (not diplomats, foreign military at war with the U.S., etc.) are citizens by birth, and the law does not distinguish between "citizen by birth" and "natural-born".

50 posted on 09/30/2011 5:11:43 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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