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Researchers Hack Voting Machine for $26
Fox News ^ | 9/30/11 | Matt Liebowitz

Posted on 09/30/2011 11:46:31 AM PDT by antidemoncrat

Researchers from the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois have developed a hack that, for about $26 and an 8th-grade science education, can remotely manipulate the electronic voting machines used by millions of voters all across the U.S.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; elections; hack; vote; voterfraud; votingmachines
Gee. It only takes an 8th grade education. I guess that means the Democrats will be able to influence the next election.
1 posted on 09/30/2011 11:46:34 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat

Easy to control any information via electronics. Paper sounds good to me. It worked for over 200 years. Don’t fix something that ain’t broke.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 11:50:30 AM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

It’s already ‘fixed’. And the MSM backed it at the time - which means it’s what dems wanted. That’s a hint.


3 posted on 09/30/2011 11:54:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Muslims will want to go to the moon when the Jews set-up Israel there. - Dennis Miller)
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To: RC2

Paper + ID card


4 posted on 09/30/2011 11:55:08 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: antidemoncrat
You need unobserved and unmolested access to the circuit boards in the voting machine. Give me unobserved and unmolested access to a paper ballot box and I can “hack” it also by simply stuffing it with premarked ballots. Much easier than splicing in a new electronic circuit.
5 posted on 09/30/2011 11:56:18 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: antidemoncrat

SOME of them, anyway!


6 posted on 09/30/2011 11:57:28 AM PDT by momf (Gun control is not about guns; it's about control..(replace the word Gun with any change they want.))
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To: MNDude

“Paper + ID card”

..and a dated Tattoo seal on your forearm that you voted.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 11:59:34 AM PDT by lwoodham (There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: lwoodham

A finger dipped in purple ink will also work well.


8 posted on 09/30/2011 12:00:45 PM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: antidemoncrat

I saw this elsewhere.

Yeah. “Simple”, provided you have physical access to the machine and can disassemble it without leaving a trace, etc.

By that standard, an ATM is “simple” to crack too.


9 posted on 09/30/2011 12:00:55 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: antidemoncrat

I think we should break out the purple dye and see how the dims fare in the next election.


10 posted on 09/30/2011 12:01:23 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: antidemoncrat

Purple inks seems to work well........

11 posted on 09/30/2011 12:03:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (We cannot defeat an enemy that the president and hence his administration cannot name.......)
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To: GraceG

I like the purple dye idea, too.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 12:05:06 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: antidemoncrat
So apparently hackers will decide the next election. Each candidate will have to hire their own hacker and anti-hacker and then let the battle begin.

This scenario would make a good pre-election movie.

13 posted on 09/30/2011 12:05:23 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: antidemoncrat

So anyone WITH ACCESS to the machine could do it? Looks like controlling access is the key. Besides, potentially you would have to access hundreds of the machines to make a national election difference.


14 posted on 09/30/2011 12:06:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: antidemoncrat

ALTERNATE HEADLINE: “Dems confident in regaining House, keeping Senate, White House”


15 posted on 09/30/2011 12:11:24 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: RC2

Its really very simple. Use the electronic voting machines to make your choices and print out a voter verifiable paper ballot. At the end of the day, the manual paper count better match the electronic count. Redundancy AND a paper trail!


16 posted on 09/30/2011 12:21:25 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: antidemoncrat
This looks like another example of government funded research to find out what everybody already knows - if you can take apart something, modify it, and then put it back in service without anybody noticing you can perpetrate pretty much any kind of crime you want - including fixing elections.

This can and has been done with ATM machines, card swipe terminals in supermarkets, etc.

In actual practice taking the voting machines apart and hacking them involves breaking in to and working for hours in government buildings without being noticed, creating replacement seals that can pass the inspection of poll workers, etc. It is more of a movie plot than a practical idea.

So why did we spend taxpayer money on the research in the first place?

17 posted on 09/30/2011 12:22:12 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: antidemoncrat; RC2; GOPJ; MNDude; Prokopton; momf; lwoodham; Explorer89; Pessimist; GraceG; ...

Oh for crying out loud.

Far easier for a single, high-school dropout campaign worker to simply throw a box of paper ballots in a dumpster.

If you have (1) unlimited access to the machine, (2) and can take the case apart and (3) can solder a daughtecard onto the circuit board -which is obvious for later fraud investigation- and can (4) control thousands of machines in real time to “blank the screen and change the vote” from only yards away from dozens? thousands? of polling stations....

Really? This is a concern?


18 posted on 09/30/2011 12:24:00 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: antidemoncrat
...can remotely manipulate voting machines...

The private market is so much more cost effective than govt. The govt spends billions in food stamps to accomplish the same thing.

19 posted on 09/30/2011 12:32:41 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: freeandfreezing

EXACTLY!


20 posted on 09/30/2011 12:34:48 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RC2

That’s one issue on which I have to give Canada their props. They count the entire country, every election, on paper ballot.


21 posted on 09/30/2011 12:41:26 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RC2

i keep telling ya, the only way we can have an honest election is to discard vote by mail, and human counting of ballots. The computers have been rigged for years. Human beings double counting keeps vote counting honest!
Taxpayers should confront their election boards insisting to return to “old fashioned tried and true vote methods”!
Checking eligibility would also help.


22 posted on 09/30/2011 12:53:38 PM PDT by Paperdoll (Herman Cain for President in 2012!)
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To: antidemoncrat
Gee. It only takes an 8th grade education. I guess that means the Democrats will be able to influence the next election.

I imagine ACORN and SEIU knew this in 2008 and just didn't do it enough in 2010. We have to watch in 2012!

23 posted on 09/30/2011 1:11:14 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: antidemoncrat

This is why leftist (and their friends across the aisle) demanded computerized voting machines after Gore was foiled in Florida. Anyone with a brain knew they could fix election with computerized elections! The Chad stuff was BS.


24 posted on 09/30/2011 1:12:12 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: antidemoncrat
ID + optically-scanned paper ballot, although it didn't prevent zombie overvoting in my state last time...

Purple ink is a winning idea.

25 posted on 09/30/2011 1:32:44 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Paperdoll

I totally agree. So we have to wait a few days to get the results. Won’t hurt a dam thing.


26 posted on 09/30/2011 1:41:59 PM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

Paper ballots can be stuffed...


27 posted on 09/30/2011 2:03:42 PM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: antidemoncrat

Imagine that...


28 posted on 09/30/2011 2:10:18 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: MNDude

“Paper + ID card”

SHOCKED, I’m absolutely SHOCKED! You must be xenophobic or racist, wanting someone to show an ID card just to vote!

/sarc

Mrs BN & I just scheduled an appointment at the local National Guard office to get our disabled veteran (and spouse) ID cards for Commissary privileges. In order to be issued the card we need to bring the following documentation:

Both Birth Certificates, with raised seals
Marriage License, with raised seal
Both Social Security cards
My DD-214
Letter from the VA certifying that I am 100% Service Connected Disabled AND Eligible for Commissary Card.

(note: the letter notifying me of being determined to be 100% Service Connected Disabled is NOT sufficient. I MUST have the subsequent letter confirming Commissary Privileges)


29 posted on 09/30/2011 2:16:35 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: sam_paine

Exactly. If someone found out that you could access them remotely AS THEY SAT at the polling places and without physically touching them, THEN I would be worried.


30 posted on 09/30/2011 2:38:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Obviously commisary privlidges are a lot more important than the presidency of the United States. You dont even need a drivers licence for that now.


31 posted on 09/30/2011 2:56:36 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: PoloSec; antidemoncrat
So apparently hackers will decide the next election. ... This scenario would make a good pre-election movie.

Already done, though instead of hacking, there was an apparently untrivial bug in the algorithm - Man of the Year (2006), with Robin Williams and Laura Linney.

It "works" much better in the movies - like James Bond or Mission Impossible series - than in real life. In real life it's a lot easier to "find" mailbags with stuffed mail-in ballots floating in the river or the dumpster, or miscount "chads" than it would be to hack an electronic ballot machine (especially if there is a verifiable paper output).

Nobody complains about optical-scan inked ballots, yet in the academic environment it's fairly easy to hack / reprogram the computer that scans and counts these.

Any electronic device can be hacked given enough time and resources, but that doesn't mean that they are not an improvement on existing systems (paper, stones, papyrus, inked fingers, etc...) The proper security environment in each would be essential to prevent cheating and "hacking".

32 posted on 09/30/2011 3:05:51 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: antidemoncrat

There was a frequent guest on Art Bell’s show, CoasttoCoastam who warned about the vulnerability of voting machines since 2000 or so. She works for an computer auditing firm and hired someone to hack into the voting machines. I remember being dismayed about how easy it was to alter the most important citizen power, the right to vote.

Nobody seemed to care when the Demos in Washington and SF produced box after box of “found” ballots in the 2004, 2006, and 2008 elections.


33 posted on 09/30/2011 3:26:59 PM PDT by jayrunner
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To: Red Badger

With the added bonus that you can spot a Democrat voter by their purple nostrils.


34 posted on 09/30/2011 3:46:21 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Prokopton
Give me unobserved and unmolested access to a paper ballot box and I can “hack” it also by simply stuffing it with premarked ballots.

Paper ballot boxes are generally supposed to be kept in view of election officials from all interested parties, or locked with separate locks for each party, are they not? Electronic voting machines, by contrast, are more likely to be placed in a private booth with a voter, and would thus be more readily tampered with.

Actually, I don't know why voting machines aren't designed so that the case can be secured with multiple independent padlocks (one per party)? If the machine just has a built-in lock, then anyone with the key must be trusted. By contrast, if a representative of each party puts a padlock on the machine, then unless all parties are crooked, the machine will be tamper-proof.

35 posted on 09/30/2011 10:46:02 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: supercat
Electronic voting machines, by contrast, are more likely to be placed in a private booth with a voter, and would thus be more readily tampered with.

Do you really believe that a person could go into a voting booth, open up the locked and sealed voting machine, connect a motherboard to the circuit board in the machine, re-lock and reseal the machine, all without being noticed?

I still think it would be much easier to "stuff" a paper ballot box, something that has been going on for centuries. Washington State is notorious for cheating with paper ballots. No matter what system we use, if the people counting the votes are corrupt, the election will be corrupted.

36 posted on 10/01/2011 1:11:08 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton; supercat
Do you really believe that a person could go into a voting booth, open up the locked and sealed voting machine, connect a motherboard to the circuit board in the machine, re-lock and reseal the machine, all without being noticed?

With all the "electioneering" I saw going on at my polling place in 2008, I'd not be surprised to learn that some people are being paid NOT to notice.

37 posted on 10/01/2011 8:16:26 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

What should concern every American regardless of their politics is that they (call them Powers that Be) want the ability to make software patches and global changes that will affect large numbers of vote tallies. That ability is what needs eliminated for the sake of our democracy. They want to assure that the politicians elected and in place will work for them, not us.


38 posted on 11/22/2011 10:48:54 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Prokopton

You’re right....this isn’t a ‘remote’ access...it’s access through trusted means...that means a Democrat-controlled voting precint!!!!!!


39 posted on 11/22/2011 10:50:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

How can you trust the modern way of voting, when a liberal computer geek could break in and change it from Romney to Obama?

I feel we should go back to the old fashion paper ballots.


40 posted on 11/01/2012 6:15:18 PM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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To: RC2

I AGREE IN USING PAPER INSTEAD OF A COMPUTER THAT COULD HACKED.


41 posted on 11/01/2012 6:18:02 PM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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To: RC2

I AGREE IN USING PAPER INSTEAD OF A COMPUTER THAT COULD HACKED.


42 posted on 11/01/2012 6:18:14 PM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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To: RockinRight

Not if you watch your area and also the voter.:)


43 posted on 11/01/2012 6:21:43 PM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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