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She's Gonna Blow: Canary Island Evacuated Amid Volcano Fears
Der Spiegel ^ | 09/29/11

Posted on 10/01/2011 7:15:02 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

09/29/2011

She's Gonna Blow

Canary Island Evacuated Amid Volcano Fears

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09/29/2011

She's Gonna Blow Canary Island Evacuated Amid Volcano Fears Photo Gallery: El Hierro Rumbles Photos DPA

Worries of a potential volcanic eruption have prompted Spanish authorities to evacuate residents and tourists on one of the Canary Islands. Thousands of tiny tremors have recently intensified, with the biggest one reaching a magnitude of 3.4, they said. The seismic activity indicates magma on the move. Info

Thousands of tiny earthquakes have rattled the island of El Hierro since this July. But recently the tremors have grown stronger, prompting concern from officials, who fear that a volcano on El Hierro, one of the Canary Islands, could be about to erupt.

On Wednesday, more than 50 residents and tourists staying at the base of the volcano were evacuated, and 11,000 locals nearby were advised to stock up on water, medicine and flashlights in case of an emergency.

Some 8,000 tremors have been registered on the island since July 19, according to the Spanish National Geographic Institute (IGN). Though most of the quakes occurred at sea and were too minor to be felt, they have been increasing in intensity, with one reaching a magnitude of 3.4 on the Richter scale early on Wednesday morning.

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KEYWORDS: canaryisland; canaryislands; catastrophism; lapalma; tsunami; volcano
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I remember some experts claiming that volcanic eruption in Canary Island could cause huge chunk of mountain to crash down to the sea, causing catastrophic trans-Atlantic tsunami to hit U.S. east coast.
1 posted on 10/01/2011 7:15:09 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv; blam

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2 posted on 10/01/2011 7:15:46 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: SE Mom

PING!


3 posted on 10/01/2011 7:17:28 AM PDT by maggief
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To: TigerLikesRooster

...so Wasserman-Shultz’s district may be under water pretty soon..?


4 posted on 10/01/2011 7:19:06 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

for the geographically challenged;)

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/canary.htm


5 posted on 10/01/2011 7:21:20 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“I remember some experts claiming that volcanic eruption in Canary Island could cause huge chunk of mountain to crash down to the sea, causing catastrophic trans-Atlantic tsunami to hit U.S. east coast.”

It’s the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma that’s of concern, not this one. Of course if this one triggers a Cumbre Vieja eruption, that would be different. Even then, though, there’s no guarantee that the next eruption will cause the landslide...it might take several more.

http://www.rense.com/general56/tsu.htm


6 posted on 10/01/2011 7:24:39 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Palin '12 - Take Back America!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We’ll need to follow the tweets.


7 posted on 10/01/2011 7:25:59 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: TigerLikesRooster

WDC could use the rinse BEFORE the elections.


8 posted on 10/01/2011 7:26:17 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: PreciousLiberty

You seem to know a lot about the subject. I saw the TV program on NATGEO or The Science Channel a couple of years ago, but when it happens (the La Palma mountain tsunami) would the resulting 160’ high wave completely wash over the Florida Peninsula on into the Gulf of Mexico?


9 posted on 10/01/2011 7:36:50 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“I remember some experts claiming that volcanic eruption in Canary Island could cause huge chunk of mountain to crash down to the sea, causing catastrophic trans-Atlantic tsunami to hit U.S. east coast. “

I guess I could say some stuff here, but, as they say “Loose lips sink ships.”


10 posted on 10/01/2011 7:46:12 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I remember some experts claiming that volcanic eruption in Canary Island could cause huge chunk of mountain to crash down to the sea, causing catastrophic trans-Atlantic tsunami to hit U.S. east coast.

A specific island which has a specific topography, and this is not that island.
11 posted on 10/01/2011 7:47:29 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: sodpoodle
I see that Gamera lives there

and at first I thought one of the islands was Lazamataz.

12 posted on 10/01/2011 7:49:13 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Democrats: the Party of NO!)
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To: ngat
...but when it happens (the La Palma mountain tsunami) would the resulting 160’ high wave completely wash over the Florida Peninsula on into the Gulf of Mexico?

Until the landslide actually happens all one can do is speculate about how big the landslide will be. Until you know how big the landslide is you can't be sure how big the tidal wave would be.

But hey, we have to sell papers or get hits on our web page to make money, so let's go with the most extreme possibilities. Who knows, maybe it will actually be as bad as we speculate.

Also the tsunami expert we use needs grant money, so it's in his interest to inflate the possibilities of catastrophe as much as possible.

13 posted on 10/01/2011 7:55:09 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: PlateOfShrimp

Clever!


14 posted on 10/01/2011 7:56:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: G Larry
WDC could use the rinse BEFORE the elections.

A rinse right off the map... be a shame to lose some of the national heirlooms in the Smithsonian.

15 posted on 10/01/2011 7:56:45 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

Yeah. I’m stumped for anything else we’d really miss.


16 posted on 10/01/2011 8:00:37 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Quix

P!


17 posted on 10/01/2011 8:01:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ngat

“You seem to know a lot about the subject. I saw the TV program on NATGEO or The Science Channel a couple of years ago, but when it happens (the La Palma mountain tsunami) would the resulting 160’ high wave completely wash over the Florida Peninsula on into the Gulf of Mexico?”

I’m no expert, but I seriously doubt even a 160’ wave would significantly impact the GoM after traversing Florida, in fact I don’t think it would make it clear across at all. The long wavelength of this type of wave would allow it to potentially go far inland though. There might be some direct impact to Mexico and maybe south Texas as the wave passes south of Cuba...it also depends on how deep the bottom is there.

I understand there’s of controversy about how large this wave would be at the US East Coast even in the worst case scenario. It is worth noting that landslides have caused some amazing waves in other places like Alaska.

I’d just as soon not find out how big it’ll be in my lifetime...here’s hoping! :-)


18 posted on 10/01/2011 8:03:11 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Palin '12 - Take Back America!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
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19 posted on 10/01/2011 8:06:42 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I never win at Scrable.)
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To: sodpoodle

Thanks!


20 posted on 10/01/2011 8:10:28 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: who knows what evil?
...so Wasserman-Shultz’s district may be under water pretty soon..?

But the bad news is, so would Rush Limbaugh.

As for the Cumbre Vieja volcano on La Palma (different island) collapse and mega-tsunami, my limited understanding is that it would be a six-sigma event -- not awfully likely.


21 posted on 10/01/2011 8:13:04 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

Rush could leave before the wave got there...the district..? Atlantis.


22 posted on 10/01/2011 8:15:52 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sooth2222

Might not be a terrible idea, for any sea level east coast FReepers to keep at least enough gas in their car to get a hundred miles away from the coast on short notice, when everyone else is also trying to do the same.

Heck even a bicycle perhaps too. Just in case roads get blocked with traffic.

A bike can get quite a ways in 8 hours.


23 posted on 10/01/2011 8:20:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: PreciousLiberty
http://www.rense.com/general56/tsu.htm

Spain gets a 33 foot wave while eastern United States gets a 200 foot wave. Seems counter intuitive to me.

24 posted on 10/01/2011 8:24:27 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: PreciousLiberty
http://www.rense.com/general56/tsu.htm

Spain gets a 33 foot wave while eastern United States gets a 200 foot wave. Seems counter intuitive to me.

25 posted on 10/01/2011 8:24:36 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: null and void
Yeah. I’m stumped for anything else we’d really miss.

Who would welcome a bunch of "homeless" Congress critters? Oh the horror of having to reside in "fly-over" country with the riff-raff.

26 posted on 10/01/2011 8:26:54 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I read this morning that the earthquakes are still quite deep (19 to 14km) and not yet moving upward. The lack of movement is a good thing but could change, of course, particularly with the frequency this volcano is showing. Thanks for the update.


27 posted on 10/01/2011 8:31:13 AM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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Another option...

Use this time, to think for a moment if you live in a lower elevation on the east coast - your most direct route to high ground.

Factor in, you’ll have 8 hours advance notice. Easy walk 3 miles an hour, that’s 20 miles in a pinch.

Most people could simply walk to safe ground, as long as they know ahead of time the nearest route uphill.


28 posted on 10/01/2011 8:31:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: DTogo
Who would welcome a bunch of "homeless" Congress critters?

San Fransisco? They'd fit right in.

29 posted on 10/01/2011 8:37:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Spain gets a 33 foot wave while eastern United States gets a 200 foot wave. Seems counter intuitive to me.

The reasoning is that the predicted land slide points directly at the US, Spain is way off to one side.

30 posted on 10/01/2011 8:39:57 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

31 posted on 10/01/2011 8:41:35 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: PreciousLiberty

The mean elevation of Florida is only 100 feet.The highest point is Britton Hills at 345 feet.I don’t know if a 160 fot wave would make it across either,let’s hope we don’t get to find out.


32 posted on 10/01/2011 8:47:53 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I remember some experts claiming that volcanic eruption in Canary Island could cause huge chunk of mountain to crash down to the sea, causing catastrophic trans-Atlantic tsunami to hit U.S. east coast.

I think that one is an island called Las Palmas, but I could be mistaken. They predict a 100+ meter tsunami, with about an 8 hour warning time for those who hear about it right away.

33 posted on 10/01/2011 8:49:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Chorus:
Now I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Chorus:
Let me say now I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Ground she’s movin’ under me
Tidal waves out on the sea
Sulphur smoke up in the sky
Pretty soon we learn to fly

Chorus:
Let me hear ya now I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Now my girl quickly say to me
Mon you better watch your feet
Lava come down soft and hot
You better lava me now or lava me not

Chorus:
Let me say now I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

— Spoken: “Mr Atley...”

No time to count what I’m worth
‘Cause I just left the planet earth
Where I go I hope there’s rum
Not to worry mon soon come

Chorus:
Now I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Chorus:
One more now I don’t know (ah he don’t know)
I don’t know (he don’t know)
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

But I don’t want to land on no Kuiat City
I’d rather land in Mexico
Don’t want to land on no Three Mile Island
Don’t want to see my skin aglow (no no no)

Don’t want to land upside down in Nantuket
Or in no Nugrill Bay
Don’t want to land in no San Juan airport
where 5 miutes feels like a day

I’d rather be in New York City 23rd street on my way
Don’t want to land on Mullah Omar
that is all I want to say

Chorus:
I don’t know
I don’t know
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow

Chorus:
Just a one more, I don’t know (he don’t know)
I don’t know (I don’t know, man)
I don’t know where I’m a gonna go
When the volcano blow


34 posted on 10/01/2011 8:58:07 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Spain gets a 33 foot wave while eastern United States gets a 200 foot wave. Seems counter intuitive to me.

The remaining part of La Palma will block some of the wave, limiting the effect on Europe. The wave has a free run across the Atlantic on the other side.

35 posted on 10/01/2011 8:59:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

THX THX.


36 posted on 10/01/2011 9:02:36 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Boy, talk about your canary in your mine....


37 posted on 10/01/2011 9:04:17 AM PDT by dangus
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To: PreciousLiberty

The big landslike tsunamis in Alaska occured where the wave energy was channeled and focused inide of bays and straits.

In the wide open Atlantic, the energy from a landslide-created tsunami would spread out in 360*, rapidly dissipating its energy.

A single-point event like even a giant landslide would NOT be like the Indian Ocean Christmas tsunami, where the earthquake took place over 100s of miles, pushing up a huge linear tsunami. In that situation, the energy can’t dissipate in 360*, because the long wave reinforces itself or “holds itself up” across its length.

Anybody who conflates the Christmas earthquake tsunami with a single-point landslide tsunami is ignorant of the physics involved.


38 posted on 10/01/2011 9:07:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The remaining part of La Palma will block some of the wave, limiting the effect on Europe. The wave has a free run across the Atlantic on the other side.

Here is my problem. If I have a wave 200 feet tall starting out a one mile radius, it has a circumference of 6.28 miles. After it has crossed the ocean and has a radius of 3000 miles and a circumference of 18,850 miles, this 200 foot tall wave has increased in volume by a factor (and kinetic energy) of 3000 times. This wave has kinetic energy equivalent to 1/2mv^2. Where did all this kinetic energy gain come from during the transit across the ocean?

39 posted on 10/01/2011 9:10:16 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Might not be a terrible idea, for any sea level east coast FReepers to keep at least enough gas in their car to get a hundred miles away from the coast on short notice, when everyone else is also trying to do the same.

Anybody in Florida might do better to get to the roof of a sturdily-built apartment building than try to get to anything that looks like "high ground" in Florida, when everybody else is trying the same. A quick look at Google Earth shows that almost all of the Florida peninsula is under 100 feet in elevation, with at least half of Florida seeming to be under 50 feet.

General evacuation tip: Have a good state-level map in your car, along with a GPS, and avoid highways at all costs. As Katrina showed, highways quickly turn into slow-moving parking lots. If there's a street route to where you're going, use streets and minor roads rather than highways.

40 posted on 10/01/2011 9:10:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

See 38. You are wrong in general, and also wrong in particular to believe that “The remaining part of La Palma will block some of the wave, limiting the effect on Europe.” Tsunami waves are not “blocked” by islands, they are encircled by the wave energy which simply wraps around them.

There is so much ignorance of physics and hysterical misinformation on these stories I want to just hit my head on my keyboard.


41 posted on 10/01/2011 9:11:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The bike isn’t a bad idea. There are few Eastern metropolises that could be evacuated in any reasonable time. It recently occurred to me the sensibility of knowing the nearest significant elevation at all time; It wouldn’t take that big of a wave to sweep all the way across Florida, amazingly enough; you can go clear from mid-state Atlantic coast to Gulf coast without getting higher than 20’.


42 posted on 10/01/2011 9:12:27 AM PDT by dangus
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Yeah! There is another freeper who understands high school physics! (See 38).


43 posted on 10/01/2011 9:12:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PapaBear3625; JimRed

Please see my 38, and the post by lonesome in Mass a bit after 38.

Please, set this worry aside.


44 posted on 10/01/2011 9:14:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; upchuck
I remember some experts claiming that volcanic eruption in Canary Island
could cause huge chunk of mountain to crash down to the sea, causing
catastrophic trans-Atlantic tsunami to hit U.S. east coast.

(IIRC) the Science Channel ('09).....
,had a special about that very possibility

the Carolinas / Georgia were hardest hit.


45 posted on 10/01/2011 9:15:15 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Water depth only effects the normal sort of tsunami - sidewise or up and down earth movements. The landslide variety is a standing wave - it litterally stands on the water surface - or at least that is my understanding.

Why worry about Florida? The entire East coast up the the height of the wave - what ever that height turns out to be - will be obliterated - in the sense that everything will be scowered down to bedrock.

See Lituya Bay, Alaska for what the damage will look like. Two video included.

You can't surf your way outta this one.

46 posted on 10/01/2011 9:16:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PlateOfShrimp; SortaBichy
Having spent my career in the fish biz, your screen name caught my eye.....and reminded me of a seasoned customer who continued to pronounce 'prawns' as 'prongs'.

"Ship me 20 cases of Jumbo Prongs".

47 posted on 10/01/2011 9:19:05 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: PIF

Please see 38, and don’t be hysterical. Comparing the 360* spread of a single point event in the open ocean to the channelized and focused energy in a BAY in Alaska is just plain foolish.

Now, if you could first build a giant “Grand Canyon” across the Atlantic, keeping all of the wave energy in that channel and aimed at Florida, then I’d agree we have a problem.

But I don’t see a “Grand Canyon” being created with walls higher than the surface of the Atlantic anytime soon.

Folks: Energy dissipates rapidly when it spreads out over 360* and thousands of miles! See 39 for a few basic numbers.


48 posted on 10/01/2011 9:22:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Good points; any thoughts on whether or not there would be any particularly nasty effects from that part of the wave that gets trapped inside the Gulf of Mexico, or any portions that would reflect off of the northern sides of South Africa and, perhaps via Cuba, end up trapped in the Gulf as well?


50 posted on 10/01/2011 9:27:08 AM PDT by Oceander (Not voting for the Republican Candidate is tantamount to voting for Obama)
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