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Fed Plan to Consolidate Power Over Nation's Power Highway Has States Nervous
FOXNEWS ^ | October 01, 2011 | Judson Berger

Posted on 10/01/2011 7:46:59 AM PDT by Son House

The need for more transmission lines is apparent -- in the vast states where wind and other forms of renewable energy are produced, the energy is often hundreds of miles from where it would be consumed.

The states, which along with local governments have long had authority over whether and where power lines get built, derided the plan as a move that would make it harder for local residents to weigh in.

The proposed change has drawn the skepticism of at least one senator. Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., who helped write a 2005 law that initially expanded federal power over power lines, complained about the plan in a letter to Energy Secretary Steven Chu.

The chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee said it appears the commission is trying to "rewrite" the language in the law. He said that's a decision for Congress, not the commission, to make.

The move, he wrote, "would pave the way for the commission to use the newly consolidated powers in ways never intended by Congress."

On paper, the federal government has had expanded authority over transmission lines since 2005, when the Energy Policy Act set up a process that split federal oversight between two agencies -- the Department of Energy and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

Under the law, the Department of Energy was tasked with studying where transmission lines were needed most. Then the FERC was given the power to grant construction permits in those areas under certain circumstances, including if a state withheld approval for more than a year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: consolidate; highway; nervous; power
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Any reason to be skeptical? Solyndra? Why would I trust them on any form of renewable energy being viable?
1 posted on 10/01/2011 7:47:08 AM PDT by Son House
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To: Son House

A single “switch” controlled by the 57 States
and unelected czars.

What could go wrong?


2 posted on 10/01/2011 7:51:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Son House
The need for more transmission lines is apparent

As long as you are determined to generate power far, far away from where it's needed.

3 posted on 10/01/2011 7:52:48 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Diogenesis

I wanted to say something like that but couldn’t think of such an elegant way to say it.


4 posted on 10/01/2011 7:54:17 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Diogenesis

When your track record is Pontiac, Saturn, Solyndra, Health Care Insurance, ect, there’s good reason to expect other forms of renewable energy will leave Power Transmission lines idle too. I might be going to do laundry as this thought sets in...


5 posted on 10/01/2011 7:58:48 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: null and void

Our government is insane. Between this and the green roads to nowhere at $700k per job created.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com


6 posted on 10/01/2011 7:59:07 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

As are we for encouraging them.


7 posted on 10/01/2011 8:02:22 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: null and void

And storage? Or do we all wait for a windy day to plan for doing laundry?


8 posted on 10/01/2011 8:13:00 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

I was thinking more along the lines of neighborhood gas turbine plants, at least until neighborhood thorium plants are available...


9 posted on 10/01/2011 8:18:51 AM PDT by null and void (Day 983 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Son House

“This state has taken billions and billions of dollars of subsidies for renewable energy generation... we’re gonna have to send them power from other states or they’ll be in the dark!”


10 posted on 10/01/2011 8:19:32 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Son House

If they are going to spend billions on “green energy” why not just install solar panels on homes and buildings instead of erecting transmission lines??


11 posted on 10/01/2011 8:28:40 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan

Because solar panels are unreliable and cost too much. Unless you install a boatload of batteries you will always need those transmission lines.


12 posted on 10/01/2011 8:45:59 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Son House

Forget about State’s Rights on transmission power lines....the well-abused Commerce Clause will surely be invoked, and the propeller farms and green payoff-suppliers will be given mandated safe passage to far away load for their remote generation.....ALL subsidized by Taxpayers across the Nation, who get NOTHING OF BENEFIT from it.


13 posted on 10/01/2011 8:46:05 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Diogenesis
A single “switch”...

All your electrons are belong to us!

14 posted on 10/01/2011 8:50:14 AM PDT by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: moovova

Indeed expanded federal power over power lines will give them more power for control.
1.Ability to shut down the internet
2.Shut down power lines
End result no power for city water pumps,gas stations........
With the progressives it’s all about control.


15 posted on 10/01/2011 9:45:01 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Diogenesis
It is a switch that means the potential for mass-extermination of urban centers: No sewerage treatment, no pumped water, no refrigeration, and no pumped fuel, surrounded by a "greenbelt" with no farms and no way out. There is at most two weeks worth of food here, and I'd bet on a half that. At the rate they're overpopulating mountain lions and the way they want to bring in wolves and there won't be any game either. Hell, a few dozen guys in SWAT vehicles with .50 cal could bottle up the entire San Francisco Bay Area and watch 12 million people starve to death in mass chaos.

Of course, there is a counter-strategy that would make such a gambit impossible, but nobody seems to be interested.

16 posted on 10/01/2011 9:54:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Son House

Anytime you see the words “Fed”, “Consolidate”, and “Power” in the same sentence, it’s a recipe for disaster.


17 posted on 10/01/2011 10:02:09 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: palmer

My point is instead of creating giant solar farms and transporting the power to the consumer it makes far more sense to locate the panels at the consumption site. Regardless of the reliability or storage requirements it makes more sense to put the panels where they are ultimately used. Financially it would be far cheaper and functionally it would be more reliable.

Solar is very reliable here in Colorado given the number of sunny days and if you put aside cost does provide independence from the power grid. There are enough taxpayer incentives in place to see a ROI in roughly 12 years. If panels last 25 years without major maintenance that would be a significant savings.


18 posted on 10/01/2011 10:09:52 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Son House

Once again, I ask the question - at what point does the federal government go too far? At what point do we, the people who own this government, say enough is enough and take our government back? At what point do we stop being Chicken Littles running around screaming that “the sky is falling” and actually DO something to STOP the sky from falling??

At what point is enough actually enough?


19 posted on 10/01/2011 10:18:17 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: RockyMtnMan
Most of the biggest solar installations are not PV but solar thermal. Therefore they have to be large and use transmission lines. Out here in the East, solar is a nonstarter whether on the roof or in a centralized plant even with incentives. However they are forcing other ratepayers to subsidize it and then it starts to pay off quicker. But it doesn't help us other ratepayers since we end up paying for power when it is not needed (no sun in the evening during peak power usage).

What could ultimately work is a system where some people put up solar and those and other people install systems that use power when it is available rather than whenever they currently use it. One example might be pumped heat storage. Out in the country I could build a pumped water storage system. I could have my water heater set on a timer, etc.

20 posted on 10/01/2011 10:23:03 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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