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Perry promotes his years of experience taking on illegal immigration, tries to blunt criticism
Washington Post ^ | Oct 1, 2011 | AP

Posted on 10/01/2011 8:55:43 AM PDT by Clairity

His aides believe that his decade of experience as a border-state governor bolsters his credibility on immigration and border security.

He said he vetoed a Texas bill that would have given illegal immigrants driver's licenses, helped pass a bill requiring voter identification at the polls, spent $400 million on security measures to help secure the state’s border with Mexico, and strongly opposed granting amnesty to people who illegally entered the United States.

"I'm a governor. I don't have the pleasure of standing on the stage and criticizing," Perry said. "I have to deal with these issues."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; entitlements; perry
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To: wmfights
Does anyone believe that a northeast blue blood is going to aggressively work to solve illegal immigration?

Not on your life. Except perhaps to "solve" it for illegal immigrants, so they won't have any problems coming in without any requirement to get a visa or check in with a local immigration office or let the government know where they're living and working.


41 posted on 10/01/2011 9:30:53 AM PDT by Oceander (Not voting for the Republican Candidate is tantamount to voting for Obama)
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To: wmfights

This is not a two man race.


42 posted on 10/01/2011 9:30:53 AM PDT by Grunthor (Cain. You see what he's done to Garafalo and Freeman. Wouldn't it be fun to see all the time?)
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To: Clairity

Perry is partially if not almost entirely responsible for the illegals in his state for the last 10 years.

The federal government is responsible for border security, but states can make it less hospitable for illegals, and Texas has been a hospitable state for illegals under both Bush and Perry, which is why it has massive amounts of illegals in the state and has turned the demographics of the state upside down.

Texas is more like California than it is like Arizona.

And the reason illegals love California is because California liberals have the welcome mat open for them.

If California was more like Arizona, it wouldn’t be as bad as it is now, same goes for Texas.

I don’t trust Perry on illegals. I think his instincts are to be like Bush and McCain, which is to supplicate to Mexicans and their illegal invasion.

I bet Perry’s first major policy push would be for amnesty.

I don’t say this because I hate Perry, but his record speaks for itself.

If we are going to elect another Bush like candidate for amnesty, we might as well elect Jeb, at least he is smart and can communicate in complete sentences.


43 posted on 10/01/2011 9:31:07 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: BobL

I don’t think Slick Rick would enjoy it very much.


44 posted on 10/01/2011 9:31:37 AM PDT by Grunthor (Cain. You see what he's done to Garafalo and Freeman. Wouldn't it be fun to see all the time?)
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To: P-Marlowe; Clarity; Liz
The link has been posted ad nauseum on Perry threads. Clearly you missed it. Here is the MSNBC version. It also appeared in the Dallas News and the My San Antonio website.

Then of course, there's this gem about the number of illegals getting in state tuition in Texas... guess what? It's rising too. Read the details closely and you'll find the are 'eligible for state aid', which is a fancy way of saying supporting illegals with taxpayer money.

You don't get rid of ants by spreading sugar, plain and simple.

45 posted on 10/01/2011 9:35:37 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Clairity

Why don’t you ask your boy what the difference is between calling border fences ‘silly’, as he did in October 2009 in a debate with KBH versus his sudden support for ‘strategic border fences’.


46 posted on 10/01/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
You're right, that's exactly what we don't want, another George Bush. Being from Connecticut, that's what he was and he gave us millions of illegals.

You raise an interesting point. I would agree with you that the "patrician class" part of his character stopped him from aggressively pursuing solutions to illegal immigration, social security, and fannie/freddie. He did propose solutions to all these things and then backed off.

There's no reason to believe that Perry will be any different. He's against almost every effective measure to solve the problem, although he does talk a good game, just like Bush.

This is where being a "right fighter" and having absolute litmus tests gets in the way of getting solutions to problems. There are a couple key differences between Perry and Bush. Whereas Bush grew up in an elite environment Perry did not. Bush attended northeast prep schools and then an ivy league college. Perry did not. Environment does play a role in the development of a persons personality. I believe Perry is a bit tougher.

As far as the educating of illegals children I believe Perry did the right thing.

47 posted on 10/01/2011 9:37:55 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Grunthor

You wont’ believe how many people that ‘heartless’ comment has pissed off. Even the guy who owns the car wash I go to this morning made a sarcastic remark about him being ‘heartless’.


48 posted on 10/01/2011 9:38:42 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Clairity

He pamders...as do most Texas pols looks like

I’m done with them for the near future


49 posted on 10/01/2011 9:39:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (I'm hardcore Dixie Man to the bone but I am having some serious nostalgia for the West these days)
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To: heiss
He insult conservatives. I’m sick of perry.

So am I. This country is in big trouble if it elects another illegal alien enabler. Perry talks a good phony game about "boots on the ground", which is why I pray he does not BS his way into the WH like Bush did.

50 posted on 10/01/2011 9:39:08 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: World'sGoneInsane
At that townhall forum last night Perry drove home what should be the fundamental issues this election season --- jobs jobs jobs, less taxes, less spending, less govt, deregulation and ending Obamacare. Along with assuring everyone he will fix SocSec for future generations while not touching current recipients.

While Perry has a less then ideal stance on immigration, the issue of illegal border crossings is being demagogue by creeps like Willard and the hordes of malcontents slinking around.

51 posted on 10/01/2011 9:41:38 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: radpolis

Rick Perry- “I Am Not for Amnesty” |

The Shark Tank

http://shark-tank.net/2011/09/21/19756/


52 posted on 10/01/2011 9:43:33 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Clairity
He said he vetoed a Texas bill that would have given illegal immigrants driver's licenses,

But he'll give you in-state tuition!

helped pass a bill requiring voter identification at the polls,

So you can be college-educated, with no voting rights, and no ability to drive to work... to a job you shouldn't have as an illegal immigrant!

spent $400 million on security measures to help secure the state’s border with Mexico,

While enticing more illegal immigrants with... in-state tuition!

and strongly opposed granting amnesty to people who illegally entered the United States.

No amnesty, but you can go to college, with in-state tuition!

Perry claims his "Texas Dream Act" is not the same as the "Federal Dream Act" because it's a "states rights issue" for Texas.

Then Perry turns around and says Mitt Romney's "Massachussetts Health Care" is the same as the "Federal Health Care" and has nothing to do with states rights. The Texas two-step us dumb Yankees just don't git?

53 posted on 10/01/2011 9:44:09 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: txrangerette; Wild Irish Rogue
So if Cain is not the nominee, he is for...??

Heaven help us if he's the nominee. Cain is so happy to be the anti-candidate that he speaks without thinking how his words will be used against him. He's attractive now, but when people start thinking about who our next POTUS will be do they really want someone who says "I don't know a lot about foreign policy", "I support the 2nd Amendment, but states should be able to restrict it", "I'm Pro-Life but I won't sign a pledge stating that".

Cain plays right into obama's hands. He makes obama look like he's experienced and competent.

54 posted on 10/01/2011 9:45:45 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: rintense; Clarity; Liz
YOUR statistic was for the last 11 years.

The reason for the increase in illegal immigrants in Texas is largely due to the fact that there are more jobs in Texas. The decline in illegal aliens in the other states is largely due to the fact that the other states have been losing jobs.

Using your logic you could say that Obama has done more to stem the tide of illegal aliens than any other president since Carter, since he has managed to keep the unemployment levels at near double digit numbers nationwide since he took office.

55 posted on 10/01/2011 9:47:01 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: DTogo
Don't forget he said 'border fences are silly' in 2009 now he like strategic border fencing.

The guy is almost on par with Romney and Kerry when it comes to flip flops.

56 posted on 10/01/2011 9:47:11 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: P-Marlowe
Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982), was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States struck down a state statute denying funding for education to illegal aliens and simultaneously struck down a municipal school district's attempt to charge illegal immigrants an annual $1,000 tuition fee for each illegal alien student to compensate for the lost state funding[1]. The Court found that where states limit the rights afforded to people (specifically children) based on their status as aliens.... Texas.

Actually in 2010 a study reported by a news outlet posted illegal immigration was down in all states that so border, but Texas.

Texas Moves to Crack Down on Cities Protecting Illegal
Immigrants
Published May 10, 2011

The vote came on the eve of Obama's first trip as president to the U.S.-Mexico border, where he planned to continue his recent push to revive legislative efforts to remake the nation's immigration laws....In the absence of a sweeping national law, many statehouses have taken immigration matters into their own hands.

Other states are not widely effected as the border states will illegal immigraion.
We say no to illegal immigrants, yet we help them stay... Americans want to stop illegal immigration. Yet we happy to benefit from low prices for groceries, cheap yardwork and housecleaning services.

Government interference stops states from acting in their own best interests on immigration [see Arizona] as well as the "wants" and "needs" of the well to do in America.

2003 was a different time in Texas when it came to the problem of Illegal immigration. The Democrats and like thinking politicians on the Right have dangled the carrot, and with the matricular consular card, approval of dual citizenship by Mexico..more and more came.

Bureaucratic red tape.

57 posted on 10/01/2011 9:47:51 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: rintense

“You wont’ believe how many people that ‘heartless’ comment has pissed off.”

Oh yes I would believe it. I was a Perry supporter. On the ping list and everything. Then he opened his mouth to attack Romney and George W Bush popped out (er...uh... before before....against). Then he opened his mouth again to defend his in-state tuition fiasco. Bush popped out again (vigilantes). Lindsay Graham as well (bigots). And lets not forget John McCain (lazy).

I stopped supporting Perry right then. I hope he loses the nomination so that the big-business, illegal loving bastards in the GOP establishment once again get the memo; WE’RE DONE supporting open-borders, amnesty POS politicians that spend more time attacking (us) the base than attacking the Democrats and illegal aliens.


58 posted on 10/01/2011 9:50:35 AM PDT by Grunthor (Cain. You see what he's done to Garafalo and Freeman. Wouldn't it be fun to see all the time?)
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To: rintense
Yeah, history shows that border fences never keep unwanted foreigners out of your country because:

- it's too hard to build them in remote places
- people will just climb over or dig under them
- we've tried it already and it didn't work

/s

59 posted on 10/01/2011 9:51:35 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: P-Marlowe; Liz
Nice way to parse the data. You are so in denial about Perry and illegals it's sad.

And to blame the rise of illegals in Texas on more jobs? Wow, way to 'rationalize' criminal behavior. Yet, Perry did nothing to discourage illegals from coming.

I never thought I'd see the day when a freeper would rationalize and excuse illegal immigration.

60 posted on 10/01/2011 9:51:39 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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