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WI: Mukwonago High School can keep Indians nickname
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 9/30/11 | Bruce Vielmetti

Posted on 10/01/2011 12:21:27 PM PDT by Jean S

Judge rules DPI administrative hearing on matter was unfair

A Waukesha County judge has ruled that the state's effort to strip Mukwonago High School of its Indians nickname was unconstitutional because an administrative hearing on the case was unfair.

Circuit Judge Donald Hassin Jr. granted summary judgment Thursday in favor of two residents who challenged the 2010 state law that allowed complaints about Indian nicknames and mascots.

While he did not find the law itself unconstitutional, he said found it "an uncommonly silly law," quoting from a famous U.S. Supreme Court case on privacy. But eliminating it, Hassin wrote, is up to the Legislature.

Hassin did agree with residents James Schoolcraft and Craig Vertz that the law, as applied against Mukwonago schools, was unconstitutional because the decision maker - a Department of Public Instruction employee named Paul Sherman - had an impermissibly high risk of bias.

In a 22-page ruling, Hassin recounted the history of the complaint against Mukwonago schools, the August 2010 hearing at which the school district had to try to rebut a presumption that its Indians name and mascot were discriminatory, and how various constitutional analyses applied.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: politicalcorrectness
I am sick of this PC garbage.
1 posted on 10/01/2011 12:21:28 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wisconsin ping!


2 posted on 10/01/2011 12:23:17 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

It is high time sensible people called this stuff SILLY because that is what it is.


3 posted on 10/01/2011 12:23:31 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98

I am amazed and pleased that Wisconsin is becoming the eat of sanity in this country.


4 posted on 10/01/2011 12:28:29 PM PDT by burroak
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To: Jean S

I’ve been around Indians all of my life. I was a minority in elementary and high school. I work with Indians now. In all my years, I have never once heard even one of them complain about this. A lot of them are hardcore Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians fans and they wear all of the “team gear” for those teams. This is just a bunch of white college commie kid nonsense.


5 posted on 10/01/2011 12:43:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Wouldn’t “Mukwonago” be an Indian name? Maybe they should change the name of the town as well. Something like “Bubbling Brook” or “Maplecrest?” Only Gaia could take offense.


6 posted on 10/01/2011 12:46:38 PM PDT by Ax
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ridicule is one the ultimate weapons in a struggle against anything. This judge essentially ridiculed the whole suit and can now be quoted in future such cases.


7 posted on 10/01/2011 12:47:20 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: burroak

I’ve always thought that Beef Wellington was the eat of sanity, but I’ve been out of circulation for a few years.


8 posted on 10/01/2011 12:48:18 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Jean S

I’ve never understood this assault on indian school team names except as the bleat of the terminally offended. I mean, a school team name is typically chosen to imply something strong, worthy, and fierce; Eagles, Wolverines, Warriors, Braves. No one is going to name a team the Fighting Politicians or the Screaming Comunity Organizers.


9 posted on 10/01/2011 1:23:22 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (If found, please turn me in to AttackWatch)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Don’t forget the Chiefs of Kansas City, Florida Seminoles and my favorite the Fighting Sioux of North Dakota.

The people of North Dakota have embraced the logo. Every race here has a fighting Sioux shirt.


10 posted on 10/01/2011 1:36:17 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: 6SJ7

Political correctness says that we’re supposed to be offended by Indian nicknames. We’re supposed to sit down, shut up, and get with the program.

I think the NCAA has some new regulations about Indian mascots or Indian nicknames going into effect.

And what of other names which could be offensive, which we never hear complaints about, such as :

Boston Celtics
Notre Dame Fighting Irish
San Diego Padres

Why isn’t PETA on our case about the numerous sports teams named after animals? If it’s offensive to Indians to have nicknames derived from Indians, isn’t it offensive to have nicknames derived from animals????


11 posted on 10/01/2011 1:36:39 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Ax

I’d guess 1/3 of city names in Wisconsin are American Indian derived.


12 posted on 10/01/2011 1:50:50 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Maybe not 1/3 but there are lots. I live in Ottawa, just south of Ocononowoc and 30 miles west of Milwaukee - all Indian names.

Marquette University changed its team name from “Warriors” to “Eagles” several years ago. I still don’t get that.


13 posted on 10/01/2011 2:02:47 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: South Dakota

I spent my last 8 years in the Army in Attack Helicopter battlaions. Our mission was to kill people and break things. We flew Apaches, Blackhawks and Kiowas. Never heard any complaints from the “intellectual” college kiddies.


14 posted on 10/01/2011 2:04:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Political correctness says that we’re supposed to be offended by Indian nicknames.”

Political correctness decrees that Indians must be offended by the use of Indian nicknames by non-Indians.
And who chose to call them Indians? Certainly not they, to whom that name was assigned by others.
Indians, being human, are capable of feeling offended, if they so choose, by words.
My animal pets, OTOH, will show emotional responses to the tone of my speech but not to the words, per se, unless I trained them to respond to certain vocalized commands.


15 posted on 10/01/2011 2:09:46 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Steely Tom

Black eyed peas, corn bread, Cole slaw and baked sweet potato are the eats of sanity. An entree is optional.


16 posted on 10/01/2011 2:25:15 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Not to mention Wisconsin itself. I’m from Michigan and we’ve got a few Indian named cities ourselves.


17 posted on 10/01/2011 2:31:47 PM PDT by Ax
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To: 6SJ7
The folks who go out there to destroy Indian symbols, words and names actually hate Indian people and wish they'd just disappear.

It's a sort of racism that seems to be OK among the Leftwingtards and "newsies".

I'd like to see the Indians push back against this stuff by inviting some of the worst offenders out to a reservation and losing them in the hills, or maybe just staking them out for a few days.

18 posted on 10/01/2011 3:01:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is just a bunch of white college commie kid nonsense.

That's exactly what it is. Naming a team after an Indian tribe is a sign of respect for its strength and bravery. Why can't these clowns see that?

19 posted on 10/01/2011 4:05:16 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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To: Jean S

One of my neighbors is from a local tribe. I asked him once “Why is it always Native American this, Native American that, Native American the other thing, but when it comes to gambling, it’s always ‘Indian Gaming (in CA)”. He replied “Beats me - among ourselves, we always say ‘Indian’. I think it’s just a club we can use to beat you guys up with”.


20 posted on 10/01/2011 4:31:31 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Dilbert San Diego
How bout them "Fighting Whities"!

BTW The name "Boilermakers" was originally an insult aimed at Purdue's football team after beating the tar out of Wabash College, by the local Crawfordsville sports writer.

21 posted on 10/01/2011 4:58:58 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Jean S; Boiler Plate
I wish Washington would be the Redskins for four games, then the Blackskins for four games, then the Yellowskins, then the Whiteskins. "Blessed are the peacemakers." That's a team everyone could support. (Somebody smarter than I will need to figure out the three new mascots.)

In the playoffs they'd continue being the Redskins.

22 posted on 10/01/2011 5:23:17 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Jean S

Does that mean Marquette can take it’s historic nickname back? s/off


23 posted on 10/01/2011 5:26:24 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ax; Jean S
Wouldn’t “Mukwonago” be an Indian name?

And Waukesha, too, where the judge made the ruling. I grew up not far from Wauwatosa, outside Milwaukee. My best friend lives in Mequon. Now I live in Massachusetts. If they're gonna change the names, start here -- call it Kennedia. (What am I saying!?)

24 posted on 10/01/2011 5:44:04 PM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; Jean S

“Why isn’t PETA on our case about the numerous sports teams named after animals? If it’s offensive to Indians to have nicknames derived from Indians, isn’t it offensive to have nicknames derived from animals?”

Then you’ll have the Vegan contingency upset over:

‘The Tuscon Tomatoes’

‘The Poughkeepsie Potatoes’

‘The Cleveland Cucumbers’

Can’t have those angry mobs armed with veggie peelers upset, LOL!


25 posted on 10/02/2011 5:46:42 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Jean S

Two of our local High Schools are nicknamed ‘Wildcats.’ Both had hatchet-wielding Indians as the mascot, up until a few years ago.

The kids are now making a MINT selling ‘old school’ t-shirts with the old Indian logo on them to people my age and older, LOL!

I’m going to go find that t-shirt and wear it today! :)


26 posted on 10/02/2011 5:49:02 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Hunton Peck; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; bushwon; ...
Wisconsin Politics Ping List Ping!
27 posted on 10/02/2011 6:11:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Jean S

My high school changed their names too... from Indians to Bengals. What a frickin joke. Our schools were in areas where Native Americans had ancestral land, so the names were homage to them. But the stupid PC school board President some years back made all schools with offensive nicknames change them.


28 posted on 10/02/2011 6:14:50 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I’ve been around Indians all of my life.

So am I, but I work in IT :)

I was talking with a guy I work with from India about Mexico, and mentioned about how a large portion of the population is descended from Indians. I then said "I mean not from India, I mean native Mexican..." he stopped me and said with a smile, "I know what you meant".

29 posted on 10/02/2011 7:12:41 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I don't hate Mormons. Is that okay?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks! Wow! A judge with some common sense, and the courage to speak plainly!


30 posted on 10/03/2011 9:17:10 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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