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Perry open to sending US troops to Mexico
Yahoo News (AP) ^ | 10/1/2011 | STEVE PEOPLES

Posted on 10/01/2011 9:59:16 PM PDT by South40

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry said Saturday that he is open to sending American troops to Mexico to help battle drug cartels.

((snip))

Mexico's government, however, has been opposed to foreign forces in its territory.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: borderwars; drugwars; mexico; perry
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1 posted on 10/01/2011 9:59:17 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Well, Obama already sent the weapons...


2 posted on 10/01/2011 10:00:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; Sea Parrot; ...
Perry is 'open to sending US troops to Mexico'.

Does he want to invade a sovereign nation?

3 posted on 10/01/2011 10:00:54 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: Gene Eric

lol! Good one.


4 posted on 10/01/2011 10:01:33 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

Mexico needs an enema. If you think the number of people crossing our border is bad now, it’s only going to get worse until that cesspool of a country is cleaned up, and the Mexicans aren’t going to do it themselves.


5 posted on 10/01/2011 10:04:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: South40

So I should vote for Palin since she is in and doing so well in the polls. Swell.


6 posted on 10/01/2011 10:08:05 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: dfwgator
My neighbors are jackasses who get a visit from the sheriff's department at least once a month. That doesn't mean I should enter their home, weapons blazing, and try to force them to clean up their act.

Messico is a cesspool. But it's not the job of the American military to clean it up.

7 posted on 10/01/2011 10:10:36 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

Perry is insane.


8 posted on 10/01/2011 10:12:07 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
So I should vote for Palin since she is in and doing so well in the polls. Swell.

I wasn't aware Palin was running.

9 posted on 10/01/2011 10:12:21 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40
Does he want to invade a sovereign nation?

It's Mexico. We've sent bi-planes, the army, arty, and Civil War rations down there before. About 100 years ago.

Maybe it's time again. (without the wormy Civil War rations)

And if a sovereign nation doesn't control their people, like Pancho Villa.... we need to put that stuff down.

Again.

This isn't the first time. There is precedent.

Just because they beat France once, doesn't mean we're at risk. We just need to shut things down, down there. Kill some trouble makers.

/johnny

10 posted on 10/01/2011 10:12:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: donna
Perry is insane.

Yes, I believe he is. Maybe that's what so many find appealing about him. It's certainly not because he is a conservative.

11 posted on 10/01/2011 10:13:37 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

Either we place troops to secure our own border or we invade Mexico to make it ours. Anything else is poltics piad for with the blood of our warriors.


12 posted on 10/01/2011 10:14:09 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: South40

Now that’s straight thinking.


13 posted on 10/01/2011 10:16:05 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Gene Eric

ROFL good one!


14 posted on 10/01/2011 10:17:15 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: South40

Let’s rock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ&ob=av2n

Vote Santorum. He is going to do it. I just feel it.


15 posted on 10/01/2011 10:18:15 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: South40

Sending U.S. military forces into Mexico would be an essential act of war. The government of Mexico would never agree to it.

The United States military will not operate in Mexico short of a full-on invasion. There’s no other way. And, at some point , that may be the only option left but be ready to assume the nation of Mexico in the process.

This is Perry trying to assuage the friction of his “heartless” statement in the debate. That is all. No seriousness or genuine forethought to it.


16 posted on 10/01/2011 10:18:46 PM PDT by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: JRandomFreeper

American forces have crossed our southern border before. But if Mexico does not want our help in trying to solve its rampant crime problem we have no right to force it upon them.


17 posted on 10/01/2011 10:19:03 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

My understanding is only if they request it.

Special Forces could get the Colombian Mafias on the run in Mexico, they have nowhere to go and could be cornered.

The CIA has a full picture of who is who and the network of the narco terrorists in every Mexican State.

Because the Mexican Federal Government can only govern effectively Mexico City (24 million people), US Special Forces could be especially effective in all other states where the narcos control.

The narcos control the political strings in the states outside Mexico City, they have bought the politicians there or have neutered them through a series of murders and other terrorist acts.

So most enforcement actions by local law enforcement is minimal because the Chiefs of Police are neutered or paid off by the narcos. The Mexican federal government has sent their own special forces from Mexico City to other states to fight narcos with some success but the action falls far short of victory.

It is said that Mexico City is off limits to the narcos because that is where the heads of the narco families live, where their children go to school.

But US Special Forces equipped with real time CIA intelligence could exterminate the upper ranks of all the narco families in a matter of weeks.

The problem is the Mexican political establishment is not ready to permit US Special Forces to operate inside their jurisdiction unless it is so secret that no one would know they were ever there.


18 posted on 10/01/2011 10:21:05 PM PDT by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: South40
Yes, I believe he is. Maybe that's what so many find appealing about him.

Actually, Gov. Goodhair isn't very 'eccentric'. And we do like eccentric down here for our politicians. Ref Kinky Freedman. Now that man is my kind of crazy.

Except he's a leftist.

Nope... We do need to use the US Army again, with mules and horses and planes and arty and missles to run right back down to Mexico City and put a stop to the bull-crap.

I'm not calling for nukes, but 155s would be appropriate.

We're being invaded. People are being killed. We're a nation. We can protect our borders, and even run across them to put down the animals that need that.

We've done it before. I say we do it again.

After we finish with Mexico, maybe we can talk about fixing Oklahoma.

/johnny

19 posted on 10/01/2011 10:21:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: South40

A wall is bad, cutting off the benefits is a no go, but INVADING a foreign country is fine??

wow. This guy has got to go.


20 posted on 10/01/2011 10:21:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: 3boysdad
Make it ours?

Yeah...that's just what we need -- 100+ million peasants reliant on the American taxpayer.

21 posted on 10/01/2011 10:21:34 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: JoenTX
The United States military will not operate in Mexico short of a full-on invasion. There’s no other way.

Read some history. Then play again.

/johnny

22 posted on 10/01/2011 10:22:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Mexico is controlled by 15 billionaire families. If they want this to stop, they can hire their own army. They obviously are either in on the cut or have brokered a deal to exempt themselves from attack. Why then should American young men be used to deal with their problem?

Obviously the PTB in both nations do not want to stop this invasion of people and drugs. I wonder what their offshore accounts look like.

No thanks, Perry.


23 posted on 10/01/2011 10:23:46 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: South40

Perry said: “What’s a sovereign nation”


24 posted on 10/01/2011 10:24:27 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Hostage
The problem is the Mexican political establishment is not ready to permit US Special Forces to operate inside their jurisdiction unless it is so secret that no one would know they were ever there.

And they likely never will be. Which means Perry was either blowing smoke or he would do so w/o their approval.

25 posted on 10/01/2011 10:25:07 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40
Does he want to invade a sovereign nation?

THE LOONIE LEFTIES SURE THINK SO!!!

Rick Perry Wants to Invade Mexico!

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26 posted on 10/01/2011 10:25:22 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: South40
But if Mexico does not want our help in trying to solve its rampant crime problem we have no right to force it upon them.

Not true. We did it before. We can do it again.

And if Mexico can't keep their house clean, and it spills into my house.... Oh, hell yes.

War isn't about who is 'right'. It's about who survives.

Lets us play again.

/johnny

27 posted on 10/01/2011 10:26:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: South40

Okay, I’m not saying there aren’t circumstances under which it might be a really good idea to take military action against those trolls. That said, I’m amused by the idea that a fence would be an intolerable hardship on border landowners and a shooting war wouldn’t be.


28 posted on 10/01/2011 10:26:12 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: South40

Did you even read your own article? Of course he’s not going to go invade Mexico.


29 posted on 10/01/2011 10:26:36 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Liz
Perry probably sees Messico as an annex of America in which case he would send troops at will.

I'm beginning to think he's not just insane, he's dangerous.

30 posted on 10/01/2011 10:26:58 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40
But if Mexico does not want our help in trying to solve its rampant crime problem we have no right to force it upon them.

Did Afghanistan request our "help" in addressing their little crime problem?

31 posted on 10/01/2011 10:27:03 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: South40

He did not talk about invading Mexico. He said he is open to the idea of sending troops to assist the Mexican government just like we did in Columbia. We were there at the request of Columbia.

If the Mexican Government is overthrown it’s going to get very ugly and it’s certainly possible. It seems prudent to keep all options on the table and we certainly have resources and intel capability honed in Afghanistan and Iraq that could be effective.


32 posted on 10/01/2011 10:28:05 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: smoothsailing

The ‘loony lefties’ support Perry and his loony leftist policies. So your post makes no sense.


33 posted on 10/01/2011 10:28:36 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: stilloftyhenight
Mexico is controlled by 15 billionaire families.

Then kill them outright in the daylight.

And in the US, we're supposed to be the powers that be.

I'm all for bringing back the troops from the middle east and using them on the southern border.

/johnny

34 posted on 10/01/2011 10:29:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: South40

Wonder how he is going to handle this one when they ask him aout it at the next debate?


35 posted on 10/01/2011 10:30:16 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: JRandomFreeper
Not true. We did it before. We can do it again.

No, it is true -- we have no right to invade Mexico. Care to cite what gives us the right, other than to repeat 'we've done it before'?

36 posted on 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

In that case, let’s invade Washington!


37 posted on 10/01/2011 10:31:37 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: South40
he would do so w/o their approval.

Do the goblins ask for our approval before invading the territory of the US?

Eff 'em.

And then, kill them until we don't have that probem any more.

How hard is that?

/johnny

38 posted on 10/01/2011 10:31:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: South40

Dear Governor Perry: Simple solution - put armed troops shoulder to shoulder on the U.S. side of the entire border between Mexico and Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California while a ginormous solid wall is being built the entire length. Seal all the tunnels. Search everything going to and from. Refuse entry to illegals, confiscate and destroy drugs and guns coming in and guns going out. Put a few select CEO’s who hire illegals in prison as an example to all.


39 posted on 10/01/2011 10:32:07 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: RichInOC
That said, I’m amused by the idea that a fence would be an intolerable hardship on border landowners and a shooting war wouldn’t be.

Good point, Rich. I don't really think Perry wants to invade. But his suggestion cannot be good for relations between the two countries or for his campaign. It makes him sound like a nut -- more so than usual.

40 posted on 10/01/2011 10:33:05 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

It’s the loonie lefties at the website I linked to that think Perry wants to invade Mexico. Isn’t that what you think too? If you don’t then what is the point of this thread?


41 posted on 10/01/2011 10:34:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: South40
What part of being a man, or a sovereign nation do you not understand?

You can do as you want. You may get your ass kicked, but going to war against Mexico isn't some crazy idea that hasn't ever been done before.

So buck up, kid. We can stop a lot of problems by standing up and confronting the troublemakers.

It may be messy and noisy. But we can do it.

/johnny

42 posted on 10/01/2011 10:35:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: tirednvirginia
Of course I read it. Have you read this thread?

I don't really believe Perry wants to invade Mexico (you understand humor, don't you?)

I believe he was blowing smoke in a vain attempt to rekindle his dwindling campaign.

43 posted on 10/01/2011 10:35:48 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: South40

Considering the CIA intel stated upthread, the only troops needed are the pilots of a B2 and a squadron of de-mothballed F117s.

Fly in at 30,000 or higher at 4 a.m., bomb the HQs/bases of the cartels and the homes of their main-mid level people, return home and leave no radar sig to mark our passing. The Mex military then has a ‘chance’ at getting it controlled in the aftermath and disorganization.

And just play dumb about it.

Other than that, nope. Not short of a full-sacle invasion/war and NOT with Obama or General Perry as CIC.


44 posted on 10/01/2011 10:36:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: 3boysdad
In that case, let’s invade Washington!

Actually, I don't have a problem with that. And we've tried that once.

Didn't do so good, but practice makes perfect.

/johnny

45 posted on 10/01/2011 10:37:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: South40
Does he want to invade a sovereign nation?

I don't think Perry sees either the US or Mexico as sovereign. As evidenced by his 2001 Border Summit speech he sees us as not separate but "joined by the Rio Grande"...

46 posted on 10/01/2011 10:39:17 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: South40

Only a few haters would interpret this article in the way you are portraying.

Of course, you know he wasn’t saying he would invade Mexico but would do something smilar as we did with Columbia.

Right now, Mexico wouldn’ be open to it but it very well could change.


47 posted on 10/01/2011 10:39:42 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: smoothsailing
Firstly, does a thread really need a point? The Perrywinkles post anything they can find with his name in the headline, point or no point. That said, this thread did have a point which was to highlight that Rick Perry is so desperate to rekindle his faltering campaign that he would make an inane suggestion like sending troops into Mexico.

And I didn't know you provided a link, I didn't click on it and don't plan to.

48 posted on 10/01/2011 10:39:59 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: NavyCanDo
Wonder how he is going to handle this one when they ask him aout it at the next debate?

He'll call those who disagree 'heartless'.

49 posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:25 PM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: Gene Eric

Yeah, just ask the cartels to please hang on to them till US troops come... somehow I suspect that wouldn’t turn out all that well LOL!


50 posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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