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Panetta warns Israel against growing isolation (Obama trying to shun Isreal to give up Jerusalem)
cbs ^ | 10/3/2011 | ap

Posted on 10/03/2011 3:31:51 AM PDT by tobyhill

The continuing turmoil in the Middle East makes it crucial that Israel finds ways to communicate with other nations in the region if it's ever going to enjoy peace and stability, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta warned in a blunt assessment.

Speaking to reporters on Sunday as he traveled to the Mideast and Europe, Panetta said the Jewish homeland is becoming increasingly isolated in the region. He said Israeli leaders need to restart negotiations with the Palestinians and work to restore relations with Egypt and Turkey.

"There's not much question in my mind that they maintain that (military) edge," Panetta said. "But the question you have to ask: Is it enough to maintain a military edge if you're isolating yourself in the diplomatic arena? Real security can only be achieved by both a strong diplomatic effort as well as a strong effort to project your military strength."

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1 posted on 10/03/2011 3:32:01 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill; All

What a horific “solution”. Give Jerusalen ot Hamas. Americans are no longer welcome on pilgrimages to Bethlehem and Jerico after those cities were “given” to the so-called Palestinians. But to just hand over the seat of the 3 major mono-theistic religion to what have proven to be animals is ridiculous. Obama should be ashamed of himself. He always wants to take the easy way out. Damn what is right and wrong. He is pure Muslim sympathizer and appeaser.


2 posted on 10/03/2011 3:38:59 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: tobyhill

He keeps burdening himself with Jerusalem and the Jew. So many are blind to Zechariah chapter 12. Heaven and Earth will pass away before the Word of God fails.


3 posted on 10/03/2011 3:48:33 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: tobyhill

I’m getting whiplash.


4 posted on 10/03/2011 3:48:53 AM PDT by barstoolblues (Neither teabagger nor tyrant)
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To: tobyhill

America helps in every way to isolate Israel and then tells Israel they ahve to give up land to be friendly with the natives. Giving up land to Palestinians is like committing suicide.

Panetta is part of the Obama anti-semite, anti -Israel,Pro-Muslim movement.

Israel is isolated thanks to the Arab Spring started by Obama.


5 posted on 10/03/2011 3:49:08 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

I’m getting whiplash.


6 posted on 10/03/2011 3:49:08 AM PDT by barstoolblues (Neither teabagger nor tyrant)
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To: shalom aleichem

He is much more than a Muslim apeaser, he is a Muslim sympathizer. Until the Palestinians give up the right of return and recognize Israel they should be the area of needed change for world leaders. The latest UN side show was a worldwide disgrace. Obama showed NO leadership, as usual.


7 posted on 10/03/2011 3:54:17 AM PDT by paguch
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To: tobyhill
Isn'r this Hillary's area of influence? I'll bet she's pissed.
8 posted on 10/03/2011 3:55:15 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: tobyhill
The only thing holding Obama back from even more open hostility to Israel is the 2012 election. American Jews need to unite and pound the White House with what will happen to the Jewish vote if he throws Israel to the Muslims.
9 posted on 10/03/2011 4:07:39 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: tobyhill

So what I want to know is will the American Jewish voters take note of this. The DNC says that Obama is Pro Israel but his actions prove other wise........


10 posted on 10/03/2011 4:08:46 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: tobyhill

I - S - R - A - E - L.

It’s not that hard to spell.


11 posted on 10/03/2011 4:09:36 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: tobyhill

Panetta is an ass. Look at a map of the Middle East. The Arabs own way more property there than tiny Israel. And yet, the Arabs won’t allow peace. They won’t recognize Israel’s right to exist. They finance terrorist groups.

And Panetta wants Israel to make further concessions. Somehow, it’s all up to Israel to solve this problem. He blames them for being too isolated. It would be funny if it weren’t so serious. In a dramatization, I can see someone like Peter Sellers acting in Panetta’s role.


12 posted on 10/03/2011 4:26:26 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: tobyhill
Obviously Panetta thinks that being isolated from a bunch of crony leaders running their economies into the ground, is a bad position.
13 posted on 10/03/2011 4:27:08 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: tobyhill

Democrats won’t be happy until Israel is destroyed.


14 posted on 10/03/2011 4:29:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: F15Eagle

Don’t forget Sefer Ovadiah ( Book of Obadiah1) It clearly tells of HaShem’s wrath against the US:

1:1
THE VISION of Obadiah. Thus saith the L-rd GOD concerning Edom: We have heard a message from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent among the nations: ‘Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.’

1:2
Behold, I make thee small among the nations; thou art greatly despised.

1:3
The pride of thy heart hath beguiled thee, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, thy habitation on high; that sayest in thy heart: ‘Who shall bring me down to the ground?’

1:4
Though thou make thy nest as high as the eagle, and though thou set it among the stars, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the Lord.

1:5
If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night—how art thou cut off! —would they not steal till they had enough? If grape-gatherers came to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes?

1:6
How is Esau searched out! How are his hidden places sought out!

1:7
All the men of thy confederacy have conducted thee to the border; the men that were at peace with thee have beguiled thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread lay a snare under thee, in whom there is no discernment.

1:8
Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and discernment out of the mount of Esau?

1:9
And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one may be cut off from the mount of Esau by slaughter.

1:10
For the violence done to thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

1:11
In the day that thou didst stand aloof, in the day that strangers carried away his substance, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.

1:12
But thou shouldest not have gazed on the day of thy brother in the day of his disaster, neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.

1:13
Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of My people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have gazed on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity.

1:14
Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.

1:15
For the day of the Lord is near upon all the nations; as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee; thy dealing shall return upon thine own head.

1:16
For as ye have drunk upon My holy mountain, so shall all the nations drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and swallow down, and shall be as though they had not been.

1:17
But in mount Zion there shall be those that escape, and it shall be holy; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.

1:18
And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken.

1:19
And they of the South shall possess the mount of Esau, and they of the Lowland the Philistines; and they shall possess the field of Ephraim, and the field of Samaria; and Benjamin shall possess Gilead.

1:20
And the captivity of this host of the children of Israel, that are among the Canaanites, even unto Zarephath, and the captivity of Jerusalem, that is in Sepharad, shall possess the cities of the South.

1:21
And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord’S.


15 posted on 10/03/2011 4:43:53 AM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: shalom aleichem

I thought that there HAS NOT been an interuption of ANY Christian pilgrimages to Holy Land area, including Bethlehem from American piligrimage groups by all the online ads I see from time to time? Those folks want the money that groups bring.


16 posted on 10/03/2011 4:44:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tobyhill
-"He said Israeli leaders need to restart negotiations with the Palestinians and work to restore relations with Egypt and Turkey."

Panetta is a damn LIAR about Isreal!

Here is why...

"In two and a half years, we met in Jerusalem only once, even though my door has always been open to you. If you wish, I'll come to Ramallah. Actually, I have a better suggestion. We've both just flown thousands of miles to New York. Now we're in the same city. We're in the same building. So let's meet here today in the United Nations. Who's there to stop us? What is there to stop us? If we genuinely want peace, what is there to stop us from meeting today and beginning peace negotiations?"
Bibi Netanyahu - Sep 23, 2011 at the U.N.

17 posted on 10/03/2011 5:02:10 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Sarah Palin and whomever.)
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To: tobyhill
Panetta to Israel: zero says you must negotiate with terrorists
18 posted on 10/03/2011 6:28:04 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Rocky

The democraps are always putting the onus on Israel to solve the problems and the majority of american jews always vote for the democraps.


19 posted on 10/03/2011 6:32:47 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Obama has lost the Jews. Yes, even the liberals.........all but those on the extreme left, which are in fact, a small percentage. They are finished with him.

Most American Jews have family or friends in Israel, and the past events, aided by Netanyahu’s speeches, and the WH’s moves against Israel have opened eyes.

The word is out, people are indeed talking......... The US has joined in the destruction of Israel.


20 posted on 10/03/2011 3:39:28 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: Never A Dull Moment

The majority of americans side with Israel. This will be another losing cause for zero. He is becoming more obvious in his attempts to destroy our country and our friends with each passing day.


21 posted on 10/03/2011 6:09:51 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

What has been done to this magnificent nation rips my heart apart.


22 posted on 10/03/2011 6:49:09 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: Never A Dull Moment

Ditto!


23 posted on 10/03/2011 6:53:41 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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