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Gun laws accomplish nothing of value(OH) ^ | 2 October, 2011 | Jeff Garvas, Cleveland

Posted on 10/03/2011 5:11:44 AM PDT by marktwain

Mark Naymik's Sept. 22 column,"Gun violence swells calls for state action," is typical anti-rights nonsense that suggests politicians in Columbus can simply pass more laws and make Cleveland's criminals leave their guns at home. Cleveland's problem isn't guns; it's bad people who obtain guns illegally.

When Mayor Frank Jackson vetoed flash-mob legislation in August, he said, "The law needs to be narrowly tailored to combat the illegal activity, be an effective deterrent to wrongdoers, and not unduly interfere with the rights of law-abiding citizens." Jackson's own words help us conclude that Cleveland's gun ordinances -- which have been nullified by the state's highest court -- were pointless restrictions that only obstructed the rights of law-abiding citizens.

Naymik bemoans the loss of gun registration, another court-abolished Cleveland mandate that trashed the privacy of Cleveland's gun owners while offering no deterrent or public benefit. Were wrongdoers lining up to register their illegal and stolen firearms?

Fortunately, Cleveland's "assault weapons" ban went the way of the city's other gun-control laws. But if "assault weapons" were such a threat to the city, why did its recent, highly publicized gun-buyback event exclude long guns from its reward system? The answer: The buyback was nothing more than "security theater" -- the same vacuous role-playing we've all witnessed at large retail stores as a security guard apathetically smears a highlighter across your receipt at the exit.

Despite some 700 firearms being collected at Cleveland's buyback, it was preceded and followed by a rash of violent shootings. The vast majority of firearms turned in likely came from honest people who were not shooting each other in the streets.

Cleveland had numerous shootings before its gun-control laws were declared illegal. Naymik clearly doesn't remember how poorly those laws failed us in the first place.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; cleveland; gun; guncontrol; oh
Nice to see this stated in a Cleveland publication.
1 posted on 10/03/2011 5:11:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain


The author, Jeff Garvas, is the founder and leader of OhioCCW. They do some great work around these parts.

They files suit a while back against a hard core liberal suburb here regarding their no-gun policy at city parks. The city finally backed down a few weeks ago and remove the signs.

In response, OhioCCW threw an open carry picnic in one of the parks to celebrate. :)

A good time was had by all!

2 posted on 10/03/2011 5:54:48 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Pessimist

That makes me smile!

3 posted on 10/03/2011 5:56:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: marktwain

We need to start actively excluding (voting against lawyers) running for public office.

Lawyers have this false belief that making more laws to correct social behavior will actually change how humans behave. The worse example of this was shown last night on PBS when the progressive movement passed Prohibition. The greatest thing about the series, so far, was the numerous speeches about how Prohibition would forever change the American landscape for the good. I found it scary how close those speeches sounded to the current "Green" "Sustainable" energy speeches.

If people, either collectively or as subclasses, aren't obeying a particular law what sane person believes that making more laws or harsher laws will be more effective? Lawyers and their adult versions, judges and politicians do.

See the last 2.5 years in D.C. for an example.

4 posted on 10/03/2011 5:57:40 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: marktwain
The vast majority of firearms turned in likely came from honest people who were not shooting each other in the streets.

Some crooks used 'buy backs' as ways to dump hot guns - (no questions asked...) and used the money to buy better weapons.

Has there ever been a liberal idea that worked?

5 posted on 10/03/2011 6:26:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Bibi would go toe to toe with the devil if it was the only way to save his beloved Israel.)
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The only way to change behavior is to change the underlying misconceptions and beliefs. Laws will never do this. They are only reflexive to the situation.

The way to change behavior is through education and the instilling of morals and values, not the destruction of those which is what the legal profession has done.

The prolifigation of laws is what has brought us to the point where we are today. In the dark ages and before the takevoer of our country by that profession we used to do much better observing the 10 basic rules that have survived time.

We get an owners manual when we buy a car. We also have an owners manual for life as well. You may disagree but the Bible does lay out basic rules of how to live your life and how to treat others - read Golden Rule.

It is when we become overly moral and selfrightous and leaglistic that we fall apart.

6 posted on 10/03/2011 6:31:26 AM PDT by pcpa
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