Skip to comments.Imagine There's No God.....Only Evolution
Posted on 10/03/2011 5:29:32 AM PDT by spirited irish
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Yes. I believe that. Where there appears to be a discrepancy the fault is in our interpretation. Studying the natural world can help us understand his Word if we are willing to admit that our first interpretation may not be completely correct.
Wrong. You're interpreting the physical evidence wrong because you don't know all the facts.
Who's the standard of truth here? You, who are a mere mortal with limited capacity to know and understand, or God, the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent designer and creator of the universe and who told us how He did things?
It's disingenuous and intellectually dishonest to accuse God of deceit when the problem is you.
I'm going to say something that's going to be misunderstood by everyone.
Everyone on this forum knows (or should know) that I am a militant Young Earth Creationist and Genesis literalist, and I'm all for dissecting Darwinism. But what do the Founding Fathers have to do with this? Truth is truth, and it doesn't have to be filtered through America's Founding Fathers any more than it has to be filtered through the founders of Saudi Arabia or of Sri Lanka. We don't need James Madison's permission to believe in G-d.
Folks, G-d is G-d. Let's stop filtering Him through nations and civilizations and just embrace universal, objective Truth on His authority. Ultimately, the religious beliefs of the American Founders aren't important.
Interesting. But this also implies intelligence behind the selection, does it not? Mutation is indeed the sole driving force behind evolution. Even Creationists believe in decent with modification. We as children are modifications of our parents. However, were we to be improvements, then there would be no disease, deformities, flaws. I am simplifying this to be sure, but I hope you understand my point.
“The evidence from studying the Earth testifies to its great
But what is time to God? Just another of his inventions. 7 days to one observer can be 4 billion years to another observer.”
Then how can you accuse God of lying as you did in post 25?
For your consideration....
The Age of the Universe by Dr. Gerald Schroeder
Absolutely! The ability of every organism to adapt to its enviroment is a mechanism that is already in place in its DNA. Placed there by the hands of the Creator.
The ultimate irrationality is those who affirm “Theistic Evolution” but deny “Intelligent Design.”
We are either here by accident or we are here by design.
Then you are implying, by default, purpose.
What is the source of the purpose?
Yes, you have to be open to more than one "interpretation" of the evidence present in the natural world. The evolutionary interpretation is a construct based on an arbitrary assumption, ie, circular reasoning. You assume, baselessly, evolution, then extrapolate billions of years on top of that, then interpret the physical evidence through this lens, without questioning the lens first off.
The creationist interpretation IS supported by observation of the evidence, and IS based on something non-arbitrary, the Word of God.
I really dislike these kinds of discussions. It is obvious to me that God exists, that Jesus is the Only Begotten, Virgin-born, Son of God who died for my sins, etc.
It is also obvious to me that there was an inevitable Fall, known by God beforehand and incorporated into His plan “from the foundation of the world”. There was a Fall before Adam and Eve — that guy, what’s his name? Oh, yeah, Lucifer.
Even if you want to take the first three to six chapters of Genesis as something other than a poetic and metaphor-heavy story of creation, you still have to account for the fact that there was something anti-God loose in the cosmos prior to Eve eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Some day, I suspect that scientists will discover that every life-form that has come into existence was predestined in the first strand of DNA that was formed by the hand of God. Or maybe they will never discover it, but it is true anyway.
Actually, not everyone.
Quite so. What I believe to be the root cause of this is where secular man tries to use the Bible as a book of science, which it was never intended to be. It contains science but essentially it is a book about the relationship between God and man starting with His children Israel (Old Testament) and then how God reconciled man to Him through His son at the cross (New Testament).
Go back to the basis of belief - if you want to avoid accountability to an unappealable objective Judge,
you try to factor Him out of your “reality”.
God doesn’t lie. That’s why the literal interpretation of Genesis is wrong.
And some day, reality is that every knee will bend and every tongue confess.....
Nobody will any longer be able to plug their ears and sing, "La, la, la, la,... laaaaa..... I can't hear you....."
1 Peter 3:15 "Always be prepared to give an answer, to anyone who asks, to give a reason for the hope that you have."
Biblical apologetics should be in every Christians book of knowledge. If we do not understand our faith, then we are quick to lose it. The only thing God wants us to take on blind faith is His unwaivering devotion to those who love Him. Everything else is to be supported through the scriptures and rational, logical thought.
Defining right and wrong for ourselves since Gen 3:4-5.
Imagine through divine inspiration God gave you complete understanding of how the universe, life on Earth, and human beings came to be. But you only had the vocabulary of a bronze age shepherd. You could not have expressed that knowledge better than the author of Genesis.