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The Secret Memo That Explains Why Obama Can Kill Americans
The Atlantic ^ | 10/03/2011 | Conor Friedersdorf

Posted on 10/03/2011 8:02:55 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

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41 posted on 10/03/2011 9:51:19 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: Ratman83; Scythian

Yes he talked, yes he provide religious preaching. I have not seen anything that claims physical attacks. We do not allow the government to kill without an actual threat, otherwise we could be next.


42 posted on 10/03/2011 9:51:52 AM PDT by Ratman83
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The problem is the War on Terror has an asymmetric battlefield where the theatre of war spans every country on the globe.

The legal reasoning behind the targeted killing of this guy would be the same if he was in Yeman or Kansas. That is why the Administration won’t release the policy paper.


43 posted on 10/03/2011 9:53:54 AM PDT by RC51
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To: ilovesarah2012
Obama's politics trumps national security. In years past, new of such events as this hit never saw the light of day. We always tried to kept our domestic and foreign enemies confused in the fog of war. In his case, heroic Obama displays himself as a fearless leader with his foot on a corpse. Unleashing the ACLU and other wannabees .

Tactical achievements are nothing to celebrate given the global big picture.

44 posted on 10/03/2011 9:56:22 AM PDT by Broker (USNR-Retired)
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To: Scythian

You mistake me for a Bush fanboy. I am always a skeptic when it comes to government regardless of whether its authority is exercised by Democrats or Republicans. I certainly would have criticized Bush for this. I would have criticized Reagan for this. The President is not supposed to be a king.


45 posted on 10/03/2011 10:11:30 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic

Well, I can say is you find yourself siding with the ACLU on this one ...

We’ll just have to disagree on this, which is fine.


46 posted on 10/03/2011 10:15:14 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Broker

So you don’t think he should have been killed?


47 posted on 10/03/2011 10:16:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"The Justice Department wrote a secret memorandum authorizing the lethal targeting of Anwar al-Aulaqi, the American-born radical cleric who was killed by a U.S. drone strike Friday, according to administration officials,"

Let's see if I understand this?

If I want to bump someone off, it will be okay as long as my daughter says my wife gave me permission.

ML/NJ

48 posted on 10/03/2011 10:50:00 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ilovesarah2012

Glad he be dead. Who needs to know about it?


49 posted on 10/03/2011 10:53:47 AM PDT by Broker (USNR-Retired)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
Just as there are some ideas so preposterous that only an intellectual could believe them

You mean like the idea that a President has absolutely zero Constitutional authority to act as judge, jury, and executioner of an American citizen who had never even been indicted, must less convicted of a single crime.

Nor was his American citizenship revoked, ever.

Maybe your comfortable with the idea that a President can, without any sort of judicial review at all, order the killing of a US Citizen and then claim that the entire process is completely secret and subject to no public or judicial scrutiny at all.

Today it's this Alwaki nut job, next year it will be Tea Party types. I'm willing to bet you'll be singing a different tune when that happens.

50 posted on 10/03/2011 11:28:39 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
We have sound legal judgement! We all agree! You can't see our reasoning, however.

So much for transparency.

51 posted on 10/03/2011 12:01:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Lurker

A former Attorney General put like this:

“...to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists ... They give ammunition to America’s enemies”

This is pretty much the Constitution’s definition of treason which is punishable by death. One either trusts in the goodness of the US government, or one sides with the terrorists. It was bad enough when Ashcroft spouted this dangerous nonsense. Holder has now drafted a secret authorization that gives Obama the supreme authority to kill Americans, and many (if not most) conservatives are down with that. Evidently the US has a new category of useful idiots.


52 posted on 10/03/2011 1:32:31 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic
A former Attorney General put like this: “...to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists ... They give ammunition to America’s enemies”

A Founding Father put it like this: "Those who give up liberty for security will end up with neither." I'd say Ben Franklin tops the former Attorney General. Wouldn't you?

Evidently the US has a new category of useful idiots.

Many of them have evidently taken up residence right here on FR.

53 posted on 10/03/2011 1:45:05 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Evidently the US has a new category of useful idiots.

Many of them have evidently taken up residence right here on FR.

Few American liberal have this capacity, I know, but one must hope that most Freepers have the critical thinking skills that can cut through the folly of granting the President the supreme powers of a king.

WRT Ashcroft and Franklin, all I can say is "no contest". In his own time, and for history, Franklin was recognized as a genius of the highest order. I have no doubt that he would be appalled at the current state of affairs.

54 posted on 10/03/2011 2:20:59 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: edcoil
If you go and fight for the other side don’t you automatically lose your citizenship?

Only if you take an oath of allegiance as part of joining a foreign army. See your passport for this information.

I'm in full accord with getting rid of the bastard. However, I do think the President should make public his legal reasoning. Under just what circumstances may the President order the killing of an American citizen, without indictment, trial and sentencing? There have to be some limits, or everyone here on FR is ultimately at risk.

56 posted on 10/03/2011 4:07:13 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: sickoflibs

I’m glad to see al-Awlaki was blown into hopefully small pieces. I’ll let the rest of you argue over the details.


57 posted on 10/03/2011 4:49:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Gilbo_3

“we’re all just a reichstag from the coupling of cattle cars...’for the children’ of course...”

Perhaps, but Isoruko Yamamato would disagree.

Americans are individually armed as no people have ever been.


58 posted on 10/03/2011 8:20:28 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: sickoflibs; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks sickoflibs. And at least he didn’t make the guy wear underwear on his head. Oh, wait, from the pictures, it looks like he wouldn’t have noticed anyway.


59 posted on 10/03/2011 8:40:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
RE :"Thanks sickoflibs. And at least he didn’t make the guy wear underwear on his head. Oh, wait, from the pictures, it looks like he wouldn’t have noticed anyway."

Automatic Birth-right citizenship of child born here of non-American/non-legal parents makes no sense.

60 posted on 10/03/2011 8:46:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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