Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

India to acquire six more C-130J Super Hercules aircrafts
The Economics Times ^

Posted on 10/03/2011 9:49:00 AM PDT by MBT ARJUN

NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force (IAF) is set to acquire six more C-130J Super Hercules special operations aircraft in addition to the six already ordered.

The IAF chief, Air Chief Marshal Norman Anil Kumar Browne, told India Strategic defence magazine (www.indiastrategic.in) that the aircraft had performed well in the recent earthquake relief operations in north-eastern India and that the IAF would utilize the multi-role capability of the aircraft as required.

The C-130J can land and take off from unpaved, grassy fields the size of a football ground and can be a big support in both peace and war to drop or pick up equipment, soldiers and those hit by calamities. The IAF had signed a deal for six C-130J aircraft for about $1.1 billion with the US military systems giant Lockheed Martin on January 31, 2008, and five of these aircraft have been delivered within 2011 as contacted, before their scheduled delivery time. Appropriate infrastructure has also been established and the required number of pilots trained either on or before time.

Browne said that the sixth and last of the aircraft was due in India in the first half of November, and the government had already approved the acquisition of another six aircraft. The first of the six aircraft was delivered in early 2011.

Discussions with the US Government and the company for the new batch were on, and he expected the order to be signed by January 2012, or in about three months from now. "We are very satisfied with the aircraft's performance," he observed.

It may be noted that the government asked the IAF to provide relief to the Sikkim earthquake victims immediately after the disaster, and IAF pressed the C-130Js into service for the first time. Within the first couple of days, IAF airlifted lifted 188.75 tonnes of equipment, 735 personnel, including 20.48 tons of food, 6 tons of medicines, 8.5 tonnes of fuel and about 51.81 tonnes of relief material. Thirty-six casualties were also evacuated.

All the C-130J Super Hercules aircraft are being acquired under a direct government-to-government agreement, under what is known as the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme of the US government. The acquisition is on a turnkey basis that includes on-time delivery, training, setting up of support infrastructure, spares and spare engines. Most of the work has been completed at IAF's Hindon airbase near the Indian capital.

The air chief said that "a full motion simulator is also being installed as part of the company's offsets obligations and would be ready for utilization by 2012".


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: c130j; india; lockheedmartin; us

1 posted on 10/03/2011 9:49:07 AM PDT by MBT ARJUN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MBT ARJUN

50 year old+ design and it keeps on going. Great plane.


2 posted on 10/03/2011 9:52:35 AM PDT by HChampagne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HChampagne

Oh!!!Yep,it just proves her mettle in Hilly ,unprepared airstrip in Himalayan region and delivers humanitarian relief without a glitch .


3 posted on 10/03/2011 9:59:58 AM PDT by MBT ARJUN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: HChampagne
This early version was doing AWAC shot down by then Soviets...


4 posted on 10/03/2011 10:05:43 AM PDT by hamboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: hamboy

I don’t remember the incident.What was it known as? (the incident)


5 posted on 10/03/2011 10:09:56 AM PDT by ngat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: MBT ARJUN; sukhoi-30mki
We paid a bomb for these 6 planes as they were "equipped with a lot of specialised equipment for the special forces". What happened to this equipment? Coundn't the An-26/32 have done the same job?

I am all for all available assets to be used for quake relief, but its not as if anyone is at all surprised by the Hercs dirt-field performance. Did the IAF need a quake to discover the Hercs capabilities? This has been proven decades ago. What gives? maybe i'm paranoid but hopefully its not another scam. And if its that good, why only 6 ?

6 posted on 10/03/2011 10:15:45 AM PDT by IndianChief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hamboy

AAAAAAA...........Say again ???When this incident happened and what is the connection with this article ??


7 posted on 10/03/2011 10:15:45 AM PDT by MBT ARJUN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ngat
I don’t remember the incident.What was it known as? (the incident)

Go to http://www.silent-warriors.com/.  The Soviets had mastered electronic jamming the C-130 overflew deep inside the enemy territory.  Korean Airlines flight 902 also wandered deep inside then Soviet Union in April 20, 1978, was also shot down; in Sept. 1, 1983, Korean Airlines flight 007 was shot down by Soviets, Wikipedia says it was pilot error, I think it was Soviet jamming now being practiced by North Koreans...
8 posted on 10/03/2011 10:29:21 AM PDT by hamboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MBT ARJUN
The C-130J can land and take off from unpaved, grassy fields the size of a football ground

Is that with our without the "Credible Sport" option?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q


9 posted on 10/03/2011 10:35:46 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MBT ARJUN
Great book about flying the C130 over Vietnam - 'Combat Pay' by Curt Messex.

"A True Story. Few civilians realize the immense role the brave pilots in C-130 aircraft played in the Vietnam War. Now, Major Curt Messex tells the hair raising tales he experienced piloting a C-130. Imagine flying a boxcar with four engines, loaded with high explosive fuel, at night, low, over a jungle with numerous Viet Cong shooting at you with 23mm, 37mm, and 57mm guns. You'll see tracers zooming by so thick and so bright they light-up your cockpit with an eerie red glow. And inspite of it, you must drop supplies on a postage stamp to needy troops below."

http://booksinmotion.biz/COMBAT%20PAY,%20CURT%20MESSEX,%20Kevin%20Foley

Hard to believe these aircraft are going for almost 200 million a copy.

10 posted on 10/03/2011 10:38:54 AM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ngat; MBT ARJUN

It is a pretty old incident.
http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/vigilance_park/shootdown_flight60528.shtml


11 posted on 10/03/2011 10:39:37 AM PDT by TalonDJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Errant

Well you could buy an old used A model for a million and a half, but those new Js have a lot of bells and whistles.


12 posted on 10/03/2011 10:42:26 AM PDT by TalonDJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: IndianChief

The AN-26/32 and other Russian aircraft are either too old or out of production and have higher operating costs and poorer night-vision/electronic warfare capabilities. The C-130J is the only realistic medium lifter on offer for most roles now. 6+6 (with the possibility of more) is a meaningful number since there are already a large number of tactical airlifters (AN-32 and Avros) with varying degrees of flight life left.


13 posted on 10/03/2011 11:16:21 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: hamboy

Its not jamming, its called Meaconing; broadcasting of false navagational signals in order to lure an aircraft off course. Happened several times during the Cold War.


14 posted on 10/03/2011 12:23:47 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ops33
Happened several times during the Cold War.

Whatever they call but still related to jamming like previous Polish president and his entourage death.

15 posted on 10/03/2011 12:33:42 PM PDT by hamboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: HChampagne
50 year old+ design and it keeps on going. Great plane.

But it's showing its age and the makers seem a bit too comfortable, suggesting they might think about a big fuselage version c.2020. By that time there could be half a dozen competitors in the game, including an half-Indian one.

UAC/HAL Il-214 Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA)

16 posted on 10/03/2011 12:37:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: hamboy

Actually, much more dangerous than jamming since the pilot is not aware they are flying on false navigational signals. Usually, when you are being jammed you know about it.


17 posted on 10/03/2011 5:05:52 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ops33
Actually, much more dangerous than jamming since the pilot is not aware they are flying on false navigational signals. Usually, when you are being jammed you know about it.

Yeap you're correct about meaconing (spoofing navaids?) much more dangerous...  The KAL 007, KAL 902 and that Polish presidential plane crash weren't pilots' error even if the media and wikipedia says they were pilots' error.
18 posted on 10/03/2011 9:09:28 PM PDT by hamboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ops33

My grandfather had that happen to him in Germany in the late 1950’s. He was the acting CO of the 14th ACR (the actual CO had a heart attack) and was flying along the border in a helicopter, heading toward one of his checkpoints, when he looked out the window and realized that they’d just crossed the border. The pilot quickly took evasive maneuvers and got them back into West German airspace just before a pair of Soviet jets appeared from the east.


19 posted on 10/03/2011 9:32:37 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Stonewall Jackson

I’ve read reports that during the 50’s and 60’s meaconing along the West German/East German border was fairly common.


20 posted on 10/04/2011 7:40:23 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson